[HN Gopher] Phantom Malware: Conceal malicious actions by imita...
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Phantom Malware: Conceal malicious actions by imitating user
activity
Author : MalwareGuy
Score : 65 points
Date : 2021-01-31 18:04 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| rychco wrote:
| The author also created a video demonstrating a PoC
| https://youtu.be/uf08omKOoxY
| sabas123 wrote:
| Imitating users to avoid detection isn't really a new technique
| dang wrote:
| Submitted title was "New powerful malware obfuscation
| technique". Submitters: please don't do that. The site
| guidelines ask: " _Please use the original title, unless it is
| misleading or linkbait; don 't editorialize._"
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
|
| We've changed the title above to the article title now
| (shortened to squeeze into HN's 80 char title limit.)
| unnouinceput wrote:
| All these techniques are based on the malicious software already
| having access to the system. As Raymond said "you're already on
| the other side of airtight door".
|
| Perhaps instead of relying on antivirus/antimalware programs to
| protect you, better educate the user. In no future time will ever
| exists a program that will be 100% idiot proof ("the Universe
| will always come with a better idiot" - quote from somebody way
| smarter than me)
| px43 wrote:
| Or maybe instead of educating the users we should be educating
| the criminals so they can get paid to work on more productive
| things. Lots of solutions here.
| etiam wrote:
| I like the basic idea, but at least if educating is to be
| understood as imparting trade knowledge and/or skills I
| seriously doubt if that particular deficit is what keeping
| most of those people off the straight and narrow.
| px43 wrote:
| Unless you're using publicly available malware that is known to
| be used for crime, AV isn't going to detect anything. That's how
| it works, and that's how it has to work.
|
| I haven'y fully read through the paper, but it doesn't look much
| different than what attackers have been doing with compiled
| AutoIT binaries for decades.
|
| If it's on Github I'd be interested in looking at the code. If
| not it seems like just another academic paper misunderstanding
| the real problems faced by both attackers and defenders.
| teilo wrote:
| Next-gen AV does not rely on signatures to detect malware so
| much as heuristics on steroids. I am especially familiar with
| SentinelOne. It can detect 0-day ransomeware, for example, as
| soon as it tries to encrypt files, and stop it in its tracks.
| Any product that does rely on signatures is useless these days.
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