[HN Gopher] A Vast Web of Vengeance
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       A Vast Web of Vengeance
        
       Author : tysone
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2021-01-30 19:29 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.nytimes.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.nytimes.com)
        
       | sebastien_b wrote:
       | Wow.
       | 
       | The most "revenge" thing I ever did was to send a copy of the
       | town's noise bylaw, anonymously, to a nearby resident who had
       | held a very loud "backyard concert" on labour day weekends over
       | the previous two years.
       | 
       | They didn't have one the third year.
        
       | danso wrote:
       | The last line FTA:
       | 
       | > _Yet even that hasn't solved the problem. See for yourself: Do
       | a Google search for "Guy Babcock."_
       | 
       | The first "traditional" result for Babcock's name is now the NYT
       | story, but the first 5+ (even moreso on mobile) are thumbnails
       | [0] showing his image with a text overlay of his name and
       | "paedophile".
       | 
       | The first 3 thumbnails link to the sites cheaterboard dot com,
       | cheaters dot news, thecheatalert dot com. The fourth thumbnail is
       | a Pinterest account linking to a ripoffreport post.
       | 
       | All these "top" results feature the same "content" [1] - the
       | victim's name spammed repeatedly, along with "paedophile" and
       | "racist POS".
       | 
       | I know spam abuse detection isn't trivial, but this seems like
       | the most basic kind of spam abuse that Google claims it knows how
       | to downrank.
       | 
       | [0] https://i.imgur.com/gosroWQ.jpg
       | 
       | [1] https://i.imgur.com/kFI9XNc.png
        
         | sebastien_b wrote:
         | Yeah I'm not sure it was a good idea of the author to include a
         | link to that search from the article (seems like that would
         | boost the existing results).
        
           | blakesterz wrote:
           | I think I'd argue that it was a good idea. This isn't me
           | linking to that from my blog that gets 100 views to a post.
           | This is the NY Times linking to that. Love them or hate them,
           | them linking to something will get attention, and I would bet
           | that attention will lead to changes.
        
             | sebastien_b wrote:
             | Good point.
        
       | baybal2 wrote:
       | Just get used to it.
       | 
       | It will come a time in US when people will come to understanding
       | that the Internet exists, and one does not take any random thing
       | on the Internet at face value.
       | 
       | I've been on the Internet under a few identities since 1998, and
       | has since stopped much trying hiding.
       | 
       | The more your online notoriety goes, the more your IRL
       | consequences snowball.
       | 
       | I've been to many countries, and in most of them you cannot
       | character asassinate anybody by randomly calling guy's workplace
       | and telling "guy A is a dreaded pedophile!," and at most it will
       | make people chuckle, and remark on you being famous.
        
       | joe_the_user wrote:
       | A simple thing would be for Google to de-list slander-based sites
       | like the ones described in the article. Or just personal name
       | search for things like that.
       | 
       | At the same time, it's remarkable that people put credence in
       | completely random sites that let anyone post anything.
        
         | sebastien_b wrote:
         | Towards the end of the article they state this is what Googles
         | has started to do with sites that make it hard to get false
         | info removed (like requiring a fee).
        
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