[HN Gopher] We need to throw out a mindblowing amount of science...
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       We need to throw out a mindblowing amount of science and start
       again
        
       Author : lemming
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2021-01-26 20:59 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | rpiguyshy wrote:
       | saturated animal fat does not, by itself, cause heart disease.
        
         | throwawaygimp wrote:
         | driving a car does not, by itself, cause car accidents
        
       | rpiguyshy wrote:
       | vaccines do cause autism, as do regular infections and other
       | forms of stress. these things also cause chronic fatigue
       | syndrome, and the two are intimately related. these diseases and
       | many other well known diseases are all basically the same disease
       | and they will be resolved in what will be known as the "metabolic
       | revolution" in medicine.
       | 
       | the reason why the studies done so far have not been able to find
       | a link between vaccines and autism is that they do not take into
       | consideration that other things also cause autism. even though
       | there is a connection between vaccines and autism, vaccines save
       | too many lives for any rational person to want to stop their
       | administration.
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       | https://naviauxlab.ucsd.edu/
        
         | amcoastal wrote:
         | lmfao
        
         | simondw wrote:
         | > they do not take into consideration that other things also
         | cause autism
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         | Fortunately, we have figured out how to tease out the influence
         | of a single variable among many: test vs. control groups. If
         | the sample size is large enough, most variables will average
         | out to have the same effect in both groups.
        
           | rpiguyshy wrote:
           | there has not been a single _randomized_ large scale study on
           | any vaccine that investigates its relationship to autism.
           | without that, the bars are too big. and the relationship is
           | extremely tiny. from a practical perspective, it isnt even
           | worth going after. the studies that have been done so far
           | prove that it wouldnt be worth it to stop vaccinations, not
           | even close. but they dont definitively disprove a connection.
           | they only disprove a meaningful connection.
        
       | JungleGymSam wrote:
       | Let's be sure to keep the science that says there are more than
       | two genders. Because _that_ is definitely very much science!
        
         | czzr wrote:
         | Well, yes, it is. Not sure what point you're trying to make?
        
           | arein2 wrote:
           | The point is obvious. This is not science but politics.
        
       | peter_d_sherman wrote:
       | I don't agree with everything in this article (I don't disagree
       | with everything either), but that being said, I liked the
       | following quoted text:
       | 
       | >"By the mid 2000s there was also an extensive body of work on
       | the biology behind the gene's function and malfunction. And all
       | of this was part of a much wider field of research called
       | candidate gene association studies, a methodology that enjoyed
       | massive media exposure from the early 90s to the late 2000s as
       | biologists identified the genes they claimed were responsible for
       | obesity, mental illness, diabetes, addiction, gambling, cancer,
       | crime, and numerous other behavioural disorders and diseases.
       | 
       | This was a golden age for high-profile genetics research. Almost
       | every week brought another announcement that a candidate gene for
       | some social problem or illness had been found. And, these
       | announcements concluded, now that the gene causing the problem
       | was known and the biological nature of the malady identified, a
       | cure was surely close. Grants were funded and biotech companies
       | were launched, billions of dollars were invested and exciting new
       | technologies were trialed, all based on candidate gene
       | discoveries.
       | 
       |  _And none of them worked because all of this was bullshit._ "
        
       | arein2 wrote:
       | Some time ago corruption was direct. Now a lot of corruption and
       | business is done trough "science".
       | 
       | If any science is related to politics or there is some
       | business/financial incentive I just assume it's skewed.
       | 
       | Take for example the harvard study that is responsible for the US
       | obesity. The study found that sugar does not make you fat,
       | because of food conpanies.
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       | Or the guy that discovered the ulcer cause and cure. It was
       | ignored because the fake ulcer treatment industry was a multi
       | billion dollar one.
       | 
       | The "I F***g LOVE science" guys that will beleive anything,
       | because SCIENCE are the worst
        
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