[HN Gopher] What remote YC demo day looked like
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       What remote YC demo day looked like
        
       Author : cheeseblubber
       Score  : 74 points
       Date   : 2021-01-25 14:32 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | Nullabillity wrote:
       | Disappointing and telling that YC would use Zoom.
        
         | flatulence wrote:
         | Your disappointment is noted
        
       | breck wrote:
       | I thought this was going to be a long blog post, which also would
       | have been cool.
       | 
       | But it was way cooler than that--a dataset of zoom workstations!
       | Thanks for putting this together.
       | 
       | Definitely going to share with a lot of people that are always
       | hacking on their zoom setups.
       | 
       | "When I was a kid" we used to do our demo days in person, and
       | showed a lot less creativity than the new batches. Well done!
        
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       | telesilla wrote:
       | FYI, a large portion of the links are broken. Lovely display of
       | 2020-ness otherwise!
        
         | cheeseblubber wrote:
         | Ooops I just fixed them. Let me know if you find any others!
        
           | gpas wrote:
           | hypotenuse.ai
        
             | cheeseblubber wrote:
             | Thanks! fixed that one too
        
       | BryanBeshore wrote:
       | This post is prompting me to ask the HN community: do you have a
       | camera/mic setup that you recommend?
        
         | capeterson wrote:
         | I run the production for a livestream and I use a Sony a6400
         | with a 50mm f1.4 plus a Shure SM7B. IMO this is about as high
         | quality as you should go without real studio soundproofing and
         | lighting. I chose the a6400 because it's not crazy expensive
         | and has some of the best/fastest autofocus around, which is
         | extremely important when you can't touch the camera. Here's a
         | list anyways, though:
         | 
         | Mandatory: Ring light and/or cheap amazon LED panels, proper
         | placement and setup of lighting+mic+cam. Minor attempts at
         | soundproofing are also encouraged.
         | 
         | Low end: Logitech c920, random USB mic from Amazon
         | 
         | Mid end: Sony a6000* (up to a6400* OK) with kit lens (or go
         | body only and get a vintage manual lens for cheap), Shure SM7B
         | (or Rode NT1/NT1-A). Blue Yetis are also okay but require
         | moderate soundproofing. If you're getting a mic better than a
         | Blue Yeti, you should also get mixing equipment of some sort.
         | You can also just stick with a cheap microphone at this level
         | as long as it doesn't sound awful.
         | 
         | High end: Blackmagic pocket cinema*, Shure SM7B
         | 
         | Highest end: Hire a production company, this is the big leagues
         | now
         | 
         | * = Requires capture card
         | 
         | For lighting setups, soundproofing, and optimal cam+mic usage,
         | you can maybe check out YouTube in order to learn a bit. You
         | will probably need more than is just on this list, but this is
         | just the bare minimum.
        
           | fossuser wrote:
           | Interesting to see BMPC for the high end - I've heard it's
           | not great as a set it and leave it option (also bad battery
           | life).
           | 
           | For the capture card: elgato camlink 4k works well.
           | 
           | Is the Sony software any good? I've hard that people still
           | say to use the capture card with that anyway. I have a decent
           | mic, but I'm still using the kind of crappy logitech webcam
           | because I couldn't decide between all the camera options that
           | all seemed to have tradeoffs (lumix gh5, lumix g100, sony
           | a7siii, sony zv1, etc.)
           | 
           | If you'd be willing to break some of those down in a comment
           | I'd really appreciate it. Why is the a6400 the right choice?
           | what lens is best for remote work and why? Is the ring light
           | better than key lights? Why prefer one of the other?
           | 
           | Thanks!
        
             | capeterson wrote:
             | IMO the blackmagic pocket cinema is perfectly fine
             | undisturbed if you're just standing/sitting at a desk, but
             | I was thinking more like you'd pair it with something like
             | ATEM in order to have more control. As for battery life,
             | you're probably going to have it plugged into a dummy
             | battery and then a converter and then into the wall. That's
             | kind of the funny thing with nicer cameras though, they
             | usually require a little bit more interaction because they
             | have so many capabilities.
             | 
             | And for capture cards, yeah the elgato camlink is all you
             | really need- the small form factor is a plus, too.
             | 
             | Sony's interface on their camera is pretty awful, it can be
             | hard to navigate and some things need a ton of button
             | presses just to change simple things. However, this clunky
             | interface comes with the benefit of a staggering amount of
             | features that (in general) work better than its
             | competitors. They just have a really good price:performance
             | ratio, a good form factor, best in class autofocus on the
             | a6400+, and a good selection of compatible lenses. It's
             | just a really solid generalist that isn't missing any
             | important features.
             | 
             | I would still recommend a capture card because I feel like
             | it would reduce the potential for overheating- however, I
             | have not tried using the Sony camera link software yet, so
             | maybe it's fine.
             | 
             | For lenses, it depends on what type of look you want. IMO a
             | lens upgrade is probably the last thing to purchase since
             | you're usually looking at a $300+ price tag. For that
             | amount of money, you could have your lighting down pat
             | which will give you a more immediate bonus in quality than
             | a nicer lens would. A basic 16-50 kit lens will perform
             | fabulously with proper lighting, however it will lack
             | significant background blurring and bokeh.
             | 
             | If you're looking for bokeh and background blurring (as
             | most people are), you want a fast lens with a wider
             | aperture and a longer focal length. However, the more
             | towards that end that you go, the harder it will be to
             | focus on the subject, so you _must_ pair it with good
             | lighting and decent autofocus. For a good idea of what to
             | look for in the mid-low range, a 50mm f1.4 (or f1.8) prime
             | lens should do well.
             | 
             | Also a big tip for desktop setups:
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZeivVQaiM
             | 
             | You can slightly modify a single pole monitor mount and use
             | it as a way to hold cameras, lighting, audio, etc. Here's
             | what I have at home: https://i.imgur.com/ix7xSc1.jpg
             | 
             | You can also purchase those twin VESA mount arms on Amazon
             | for like $20, so you can mount a ton of things for
             | relatively cheap.
             | 
             | I already have a separate boom arm for audio, but you can
             | see there's all sorts of good stuff like a (sort of hidden)
             | camera ball mount and jury-rigged LED panels. I made some
             | reflectors and diffusers in order to make sure I'm not
             | sending tons of light out behind me, which helps exaggerate
             | that nice background blur and makes me stand out. I also
             | have a light behind me over my head, which lights up the
             | hair and provides a nice effect. Something to light up my
             | room could be useful, but I have big windows with a good
             | amount of indirect natural light.
             | 
             | As far as what specific lighting you want- it really just
             | depends. If you're willing to spend a little extra time, I
             | would probably avoid ring lights because you can achieve a
             | better effect with LED panels and creative use of
             | diffusers/reflectors. Ring lights are a good plug-and-play
             | budget solution, though.
             | 
             | -------
             | 
             | Now for choosing a specific camera- this is a good thing to
             | google since there's a ton of specs and most cameras are
             | pretty similar. IMO you don't need in-body image
             | stabilization, so I would leave out the A6500. The
             | A6100-A6300 are so close in price to the A6400 that I'd
             | prefer the A6400 and say it's a choice between the Sony
             | A6000 and the Sony A6400. The A6000 can be had used in the
             | $250 range and is about 85% as versatile as the A6400, so
             | if you don't care too much about the absolute bleeding edge
             | fastest autofocus and some other luxuries, then the A6000
             | is a very solid pick. Plus, it gives you a lot more cash to
             | spend on a lens and lighting.
             | 
             | I'd say make a choice between the A6000 and A6400, and then
             | look up comparisons between your choice and its competitors
             | and see which one looks more solid. I don't have much
             | personal experience with brands other than Sony, Canon, and
             | Fujifilm, so most of the time I'm just googling and
             | comparing features, sensors, etc.
             | 
             | Hope this helps!
        
           | BryanBeshore wrote:
           | Fantastic breakdown. Thanks.
        
         | tasn wrote:
         | Webcam: Logitech C920
         | 
         | Mic: a <$100 USB mic, I don't remember the exact model, but
         | it's by FIFINE
         | 
         | Headphones: just standard ones
         | 
         | Do everyone a favour and buy a good webcame and a USB mic. :)
        
           | umeshunni wrote:
           | Why a USB mic rather than a 3.5mm mic?
        
             | capeterson wrote:
             | In general, USB mics are assumed to be a little more
             | featureful (e.g. they have an on-board sound card). This is
             | mostly an assumption, though. For super low end
             | microphones, it's kind of difficult to compare
             | specifications, so I'd just rely on user reviews on YouTube
             | and the like.
        
       | davidedicillo wrote:
       | Sadly, that's what 2020 looked for many people even outside of YC
       | (the lucky ones who could just work from home)
        
         | fabioborellini wrote:
         | Yes. Ergonomics and work-life balance are in worse situation
         | than we could imagine a year or two ago. And some anticipate
         | this appalling situation to be "a new normal" for years to
         | come.
         | 
         | Thought workers coming out of their dens in 2022 are hardly
         | mobile and have anxiety for the rest of their lives. Young
         | people's relationships are ruined for good.
        
       | artsalamander wrote:
       | Hey, papercups looks like something I was searching for the other
       | night but never managed to stumble upon. I just checked my search
       | history and maybe that will be useful for you to see.
       | 
       | 'intercom', 'intercom alternative', 'intercom alternative
       | producthunt', 'slack live chat integration'
       | 
       | I remember that the majority of the producthunt recommendations
       | were dead projects and the 'Top 5 intercom alternatives'(etc.)
       | articles didn't seem to mention you.
       | 
       | Hopefully this will help in some small way :)
        
         | cheeseblubber wrote:
         | Thanks :D We are both engineers so marketing is not our strong
         | suit we gotta get better at letting people know about us.
        
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