[HN Gopher] Support for the IPFS Protocol - Firefox Bugzilla
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       Support for the IPFS Protocol - Firefox Bugzilla
        
       Author : fossislife
       Score  : 132 points
       Date   : 2021-01-21 13:01 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (bugzilla.mozilla.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (bugzilla.mozilla.org)
        
       | rishav_sharan wrote:
       | on a similar note, here is the uservoice for dat protocol support
       | in MS Edge.
       | https://microsoftedge.uservoice.com/forums/928828-developer/...
       | 
       | if you folks are interested, maybe you can vote it up. it might
       | get funded.
        
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       | dleslie wrote:
       | There hasn't been a comment or status change to this bug in three
       | years.
       | 
       | I've been giving Brave a shot due to their recent addition of
       | first-class support for IPFS, and the numerous positive HN
       | comments. It's... So much faster. However, it does a poor job of
       | blocking advertisements and trackers. I'll be going back to
       | Firefox for that reason, I can suffer the slowness.
       | 
       | One common response regarding performance woes on Firefox is that
       | common addons, particularly uBlock, process a large amount of
       | data through complex rules during page load. What I haven't heard
       | is any plans on the part of Mozilla to support that level of ad-
       | blocking and privacy protection at the product level, rather than
       | the extension level, which may provide much needed performance
       | enhancements.
       | 
       | uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everwhere, Decentraleyes, Privacy Badger,
       | au-revoir-utm et al should be native features at this point.
        
         | pea wrote:
         | Out of interest, why not use uBlock on brave? That's my setup.
        
           | anderber wrote:
           | You can also customize Brave's adblock in brave://adblock/
        
         | Funes- wrote:
         | >It's... So much faster. However, it does a poor job of
         | blocking advertisements and trackers. I'll be going back to
         | Firefox for that reason, I can suffer the slowness.
         | 
         | You can block ads just by editing your hosts file. There's no
         | need to depend on any browser's particular functionality in
         | order to get rid of them. Nor on extra hardware (Pi-hole), for
         | that matter. I have a cron job download a prefilled copy from a
         | popular github repository [1] daily.
         | 
         | [1] https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
        
           | arduinomancer wrote:
           | That doesn't work if the website serves the ads from the same
           | domain as the content.
           | 
           | For example YouTube ads.
        
             | GoblinSlayer wrote:
             | 0.0.0.0 youtube.com
        
           | pythux wrote:
           | Blocking by hostnames is a big part of adblocking, but if you
           | want to really block all ads and also not break the Web, you
           | need an in-browser tech to do things like element hiding,
           | scriptlet injections, etc. Which cannot be done via host
           | files.
        
           | dleslie wrote:
           | That doesn't scrub all advertisements without also going
           | full-nuclear on certain social media sites and video
           | services.
        
           | michaelmrose wrote:
           | How do you selectively turn off this functionality for
           | websites that don't work with such blocking?
        
         | DyslexicAtheist wrote:
         | _> uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everwhere, Decentraleyes, Privacy
         | Badger, au-revoir-utm et al should be native features at this
         | point. _
         | 
         | these constant debacles of add-ons and extensions being sold to
         | adversarial maintainers, it's a good time to do integrate this
         | if they are serious about security and privacy. I understand
         | blocklists are a massively sensitive topic for mozilla however.
        
         | eznzt wrote:
         | All those extensions are also available on Brave (and all
         | Chromium derivatives), and the browser themselves are always
         | faster than Firefox.
        
         | gcblkjaidfj wrote:
         | Let me tell you the future of using brave: you give chrome
         | engine total rule of the law for web "standards". Google can
         | mold the web to their desires.
         | 
         | If you use firefox, google have to at least play nice.
         | 
         | What's the point of using a browser frontend (used to be called
         | chrome, but i guess google stole even the words) if tomorrow
         | all the content depend on google-owned DRM? You will only be
         | able to use your fancy ipfs or whatever transport if you have
         | the google blessed keys or whatnot.
        
           | stretchcat wrote:
           | I use Firefox and have for about 15 years now. I still use
           | it, but I no longer have hope. Not since Mozilla rolled over
           | on EME. Mozilla is googles' lapdog, little more. At least the
           | browser still has enough technical merit for me to continue
           | using it, but I fear that won't remain true forever.
        
           | konjin wrote:
           | Let me tell you about Mozilla. They get 90% of their funding
           | through google. Google is their customer, you are their
           | product.
           | 
           | Anyone who thinks Mozilla is independent is in deep denial.
        
           | RedComet wrote:
           | It sounds good in theory, but it just isn't true. Mozilla is
           | null factor these days, and most of their income has actually
           | been from Google.
           | 
           | Google is most likely keeping them afloat just to ward off a
           | stray monopoly charge at this point.
        
           | jjcon wrote:
           | > If you use firefox, google have to at least play nice.
           | 
           | A browser with the same market share as 'Samsung internet'
           | that is primarily funded by google? They have less voice than
           | brave, who at least maintains their independence (and their
           | own forks/build processes).
           | 
           | Safari is the only other real contender with 5x the market
           | share of Firefox (and counting).
        
         | hiimtroymclure wrote:
         | how does brave do a poor job of blocking advertisements and
         | trackers? Its the main reason I use it and _I think_ it works
         | well but never done any kind of analysis (nor would I even know
         | how to). Could you elaborate on this for the uninformed?
        
         | Isthatablackgsd wrote:
         | > Decentraleyes
         | 
         | I would recommend LocalCDN over Decentraleyes. They covers CDNs
         | (more than Decentraleyes) and various libraries such as
         | javascripts (like jQuery) and frameworks.
        
         | pixxel wrote:
         | For those of us that haven't heard of au-revoir-utm:
         | 
         | > How annoying are those
         | "utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss" in URLs ?
         | Right!
         | 
         | > So this extension removes them and prevents you from being
         | tracked.
         | 
         | > Source code at https://github.com/Rik/au-revoir-utm
        
           | KozmoNau7 wrote:
           | I prefer CleaURLs, it also removes UTM parameters plus a
           | number of other tracking parameters:
           | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/clearurls/
        
             | dleslie wrote:
             | That's a good one, thank-you.
        
       | isaacimagine wrote:
       | There are lots of very interesting and useful protocols, from
       | ipfs to gopher, hyper to i2p, from freenet to zeronet, etc. - I
       | think it would be cool if browsers added an extensible framework
       | for adding new protocols.
        
         | 6510 wrote:
         | The argument against protocols use to be that they do not want
         | to promote anything. This in turn prevented adoption.
         | 
         | lets hope we get to see ipfs
        
       | kmeisthax wrote:
       | Does anyone know how well IPFS protects the privacy of individual
       | users, given that any sort of P2P protocol is going to shift
       | copyright liability for what they read or watch onto them?
        
         | beardog wrote:
         | It basically doesn't, I found a few years ago that it also
         | makes your browser more fingerprintable (though in recent time
         | browsers are getting more resistant to this)
         | 
         | https://chaoswebs.net/blog/tracking-ipfs-users-via-cache-pro...
         | 
         | So even if you use a VPN with it, if you are logged into a
         | website that knows you, it could scan what you have saved from
         | ipfs (among known IDs anyways)
        
       | madushan1000 wrote:
       | Mozilla gave up on distributed web a long time ago, Just look at
       | the libdweb[0] project. No update in years, nobody even to get
       | almost complete patchset to firefox reviewed and merged.
       | 
       | [0]: https://github.com/mozilla/libdweb
        
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