[HN Gopher] Smart Drone Mailbox Secures the Future of "Last Inch...
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       Smart Drone Mailbox Secures the Future of "Last Inch" Deliveries
        
       Author : jelliclesfarm
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2021-01-19 19:26 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | psds2 wrote:
       | Seems like something that could be replicated with a square piece
       | of cardboard and a QR code sticker the drone reads.
        
       | Brendinooo wrote:
       | >"The mailbox has not been disrupted since 1858 (when the U.S.
       | Postal Service was launched)," said O'Toole. "Between smart cars,
       | smart phones and smart houses, it's time for the mailbox to catch
       | up."
       | 
       | That is such an irksome sentence. And inaccurate, too? The Post
       | Office goes back to the late 1700s, home delivery wasn't a thing
       | until 1863, and the mailbox wasn't really a thing until around
       | 1915.
        
         | mrRandomGuy wrote:
         | I hope your READY to REVOLUTIONIZE LAST INCH MAIL DELIVERY via
         | DISRUPTING TRADITIONAL MECHANISMS OF MAIL and make the world a
         | better place.
        
         | dharmab wrote:
         | Mailboxes were around since 1896, with standards being
         | published in 1901. The current iconic design dates to 1915.
         | 
         | Before then, home delivery was via mail slot or by handing the
         | recipient the mail directly.
         | 
         | https://99percentinvisible.org/article/open-source-icon-rura...
        
       | ampdepolymerase wrote:
       | Castle doctrines and make your day laws have to be updated to
       | allow automated defences and booby traps. Right now the classical
       | legal question of securing your mail box against vandalism and
       | theft leaves you vulnerable to civil lawsuit and criminal
       | prosecution. I can see this product finding customers in the
       | Prairies and certain parts of the Midwest. New York and
       | California? A one way trip to jail and bankruptcy.
        
         | crooked-v wrote:
         | This is, in practical terms, a bigger version of a one-way mail
         | slot. I fail to see how it would be a 'defense' or 'trap', and
         | indeed a major part of the point of authenticating drones would
         | be to avoid the problems that could come with accidentally
         | trapping small animals with a much simpler one-way spring
         | mechanism.
        
         | alkonaut wrote:
         | You'd want "one way" drone delivery mailboxes just like a
         | regular mailbox is one way and must be opened with a key.
         | 
         | The package should be dropped on a trapdoor with a locked
         | compartment underneath. It's still vulnerable to theft and
         | vandalism, but it's no different from anything dropped by the
         | mailman.
        
         | eindiran wrote:
         | Colorado's "Make my day" law seem a little out-of-place in this
         | discussion, as it only concerns deadly force and is only
         | applicable to intruders into your house (ie once the intruder
         | has crossed the threshold of your door or a window). "Porch
         | pirates" and package thieves are a big enough concern now that
         | they probably warrant their own laws, but I don't think we
         | should be authorizing deadly force against them.
        
         | germinalphrase wrote:
         | How serious is this comment?
        
         | shuntress wrote:
         | Did we read the same article?
        
       | thesis wrote:
       | Personally... I want the opposite. I want my own drone that I can
       | send to businesses to do pickups for me. Pharmacies, pizza, etc.
        
       | germinalphrase wrote:
       | What does this drone solution solve that a "smart" (electronic
       | locking) package delivery box wouldn't?
        
         | shuntress wrote:
         | A drone can land on it.
        
       | ortusdux wrote:
       | My first thought is that something like this would do well in my
       | home town, where the average person is over 60 and a millionaire.
       | Most of the area is zoned 5+ acre per lot, and no one wants to
       | build by the road, so its plenty of old people with nice houses
       | and long driveways.
        
       | djrogers wrote:
       | Ok, fully aware that this is a really tiny problem, and does not
       | in any way apply to 99% of people, but my mailbox is ~500' from
       | my front door, and on really rainy days I'd love to have a drone
       | bring my mail back the the house.
       | 
       | For now my 11 and 14 year olds will have to suffice - maybe this
       | tech will be mature by the time the last kid moves out?
       | 
       | -- _edit: ok, I skimmed the article too fast and assumed this was
       | a mailbox that WAS a drone, not FOR a drone. Not quite as cool._
        
         | dharmab wrote:
         | Most people I know in rural areas with this problem drive to
         | their mailboxes in their truck/side-by-side/ATV.
         | 
         | If you'd like to create your own solution, refer to
         | https://www.usps.com/manage/mailboxes.htm to get information on
         | the dimensions and requirements of a compliant mailbox.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | If it's really bad weather, I'll usually just wait until the
           | next day. There's very little I'm anxiously waiting for. One
           | of my neighbors always ride their ATV down the driveway to
           | get their mail. Like mine, it's long but not _that_ long
           | (~500 ft.). Personally, I find it a good excuse to stretch my
           | legs especially these days.
        
       | 4rt wrote:
       | not sure the reality of this.
       | 
       | who are the people buying a ~$1000? mains-connected - and pretty
       | huge, ugly and imposing - "smart mailbox" just to get deliveries
       | of the dozen or so items a year that will be under the 500g or so
       | weight limit for drone deliveries?
       | 
       | who lives in an area where wind and rain are such a rare
       | occurence that they will happily postpone a delivery a day or
       | two, has the room and money for such a device and doesn't already
       | have a back yard where the drone could drop it.
       | 
       | seems like an invention looking for a reason to exist, or more
       | likely just a "we're-relevant" marketing exercise for northrop.
        
         | corobo wrote:
         | I have a balcony and find it cool. I dunno about $1000 but I'd
         | definitely think about it.
         | 
         | Cool isn't a "I would definitely buy this product" though
         | because it'd never be as good as I imagine it to be. I might
         | get in on version 5 or so like I did with Roombas
        
         | shaftway wrote:
         | FWIW, it only has to be ugly and imposing from the air. I'd
         | much prefer something on my roof for this that delivers the
         | packages directly inside. Makes it easier for the drones,
         | prevents porch pirates, etc.
         | 
         | Basically I want the drones to drop my stuff down a chimney
         | like Santa Claus.
        
           | jvm_ wrote:
           | Dumbwaiters make a resurgence, except now they hookup to the
           | roof.
        
           | rascul wrote:
           | Seems like roof delivery could also be safer, since there's
           | generally less people on a roof than on the ground.
        
       | danesparza wrote:
       | Drones are noisy. 100's of them flying in your neighborhood at
       | once is a very bad plan.
        
         | corytheboyd wrote:
         | This rarely comes up when the general topic of using drones to
         | solve problems like this is discussed. Even just one drone is
         | quite loud, I can't imagine many of them. Next to my home. In
         | flight potentially many times a day.
        
           | Anechoic wrote:
           | For what it's worth, the big tech companies working on drone
           | delivery (including Uber & Amazon) are aware of noise
           | concerns and are working with noise control researchers to
           | develop quieter drones and noise control criteria.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | To my recollection, it comes up all the time. By all means,
           | use drones to deliver emergency supplies and things like
           | that. But buzzing around all day in a neighborhood? No thank
           | you.
        
         | lallysingh wrote:
         | There's a lot of active research on quiet drones. Expect that
         | issue to get sorted out.
         | 
         | Defense, law enforcement, etc are interested.
        
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       | thecrumb wrote:
       | All I really see if a faraday cage lined mailbox which I can
       | remotely open, drone falls in and then I can salvage it for parts
       | for my own drone. :)
        
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