[HN Gopher] FBI 'honors' Martin Luther King Jr., 50 years after ...
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FBI 'honors' Martin Luther King Jr., 50 years after plotting to
'neutralize' him
Author : nagums
Score : 30 points
Date : 2021-01-19 18:30 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| CincinnatiMan wrote:
| Are any of the FBI staffers of modern day also ones that were
| present 50 years ago? Is it possible the people that compose the
| FBI currently have different morals and viewpoints from the ones
| from 50 years ago? The organization known as the FBI is just a
| collection of people, and the members that make it up can change
| over time, it's not an everlasting entity itself. Thus it seems
| unfair to say/imply the FBI is being hypocritical in their
| message.
| hulitu wrote:
| No. No. No.
| t-writescode wrote:
| A large amount of the American way of thinking is to believe
| that people cannot and will not change, and so that's not a
| question that would traditionally be asked.
|
| It's wrong, but it powers a lot of American thinking.
| machello13 wrote:
| Do you have any sources for that, or is it just prejudice?
| t-writescode wrote:
| It's an analysis of what I've seen.
|
| People hate Biden for stances he has in the past and they
| bring them up regularly.
|
| Same with Harris.
|
| People are thrown in prison for decades to keep them away
| from everyone and then they're denied jobs on then basis
| that they were once a criminal.
|
| People mocked John Kerry on the very basis that he _did_
| change his mind on an issue, and so on.
|
| The very basis of a lot of relationship advice on Reddit,
| at least, is that "people never change", therefore 'you
| should dump the person'.
|
| I'm sure that if you asked a person about a specific person
| that they know and have known, they'll say how this person
| isn't the person they were; but then that same person will
| go on and talk about someone they don't in absolute terms
| about how a change is not genuine or cannot happen.
|
| I don't have sources, I'm sorry, just life experience and
| an attempt to understand the world I live in.
| LatteLazy wrote:
| Does that actually follow?
|
| If you run an organisation and recruit people who think on a
| certain way, train them in a way that makes them more likely to
| think that way, and promote the ones that think that way,
| wouldn't the organisation stay pretty similar even as actual
| humans join and leave?
|
| Lots of organisations (political parties, religions, whole
| classes of people) have remained largely the same for very long
| periods this way.
|
| Im not saying the FBI is the same today as it was 50 years ago.
| I'm just saying institutional memory is a thing (as is
| institutional racism...).
| [deleted]
| umeshunni wrote:
| I read the title as FB instead of FBI and assumed it was yet
| another hit piece by the NYT or Guardian blaming Facebook for
| MLK's assassination.
| akimball wrote:
| The US government was found guilty at trial of conspiring to
| assassinate King. They paid an award to the estate.
| tehlike wrote:
| I am reading it right that they were awarded only 100$?
| cwkoss wrote:
| Does the US have a mechanism for retroactively stripping people
| of rank?
|
| Seems like there have been a lot of old white dudes who did evil
| things for intelligence services, retired with honors, died, and
| then declassified knowledge of their crimes is made public.
|
| Would be nice if he had something like a posthumous dishonorable
| discharge to apply in these cases.
| [deleted]
| refurb wrote:
| Yeah, this wouldn't be abused in the least.
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _Would be nice if he had something like a posthumous
| dishonorable discharge to apply in these cases_
|
| This is a politician's dream. Rally your base over a dead guy's
| stickers and jewelry so you don't have to tackle the problems
| of today.
| wezen wrote:
| thegrayzone, I never thought I would find this socialist
| propaganda site on Hacker News.
| polka_haunts_us wrote:
| I've found that in terms of content, pretty much everything
| gets posted here. The big difference between HN and other
| places is the HN community at large does a much better job of
| filtering out the total garbage.
|
| Not perfect, but better.
| shrimp_emoji wrote:
| It breaks up the monotony of all the capitalist propaganda.
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