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       KFC Mascot Col. Sanders Talks Malbolge Programming on General
       Hospital
        
       Author : asjo
       Score  : 59 points
       Date   : 2021-01-19 17:30 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | BitwiseFool wrote:
       | KFC has got a zany marketing team.
        
         | mbg721 wrote:
         | It seemed like Burger King was headed that direction when they
         | released their line of (surprisingly playable) Xbox games, but
         | I guess they've backed away since then.
        
           | monocasa wrote:
           | That was because they hired CP+B, but then CP+B were too much
           | of classic problematic ad bros for them, so Burger King
           | backed out.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Porter_%2B_Bogusky
        
             | mbg721 wrote:
             | Interesting; I wasn't familiar with the various players in
             | big advertising (other than Sterling Cooper).
        
           | Apocryphon wrote:
           | Maybe big tech companies aren't the only ones who try to
           | expand their moats with entries in random product categories
           | and moonshot projects.
        
           | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
           | Probably shrinking their marketing team like they did to
           | their sandwiches.
        
             | mbg721 wrote:
             | As opposed to KFC doubling-down?
        
             | astrange wrote:
             | They just did a great looking rebrand, at least. Although
             | the building renders look like Jony Ive did them.
             | 
             | https://www.fastcompany.com/90591634/burger-king-unveils-
             | its...
        
           | marktangotango wrote:
           | I had this thought as well. "Sneak King" and the commercials
           | back then were brilliant. Too bad the BK nearest me is nearly
           | unedible.
        
           | TigeriusKirk wrote:
           | Their Subservient Chicken website was one of the strangest
           | pieces of marketing I've ever seen for a major corporation.
        
           | glaugh wrote:
           | The BK bumper car game has turned into a weird little
           | christmas tradition in my family. Actually a very fun, easy-
           | to-learn/hard-ish-to-master game (basically 2D Rocket League)
        
           | kyle-rb wrote:
           | Burger King created WhopperCoin, but only for Russia.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhopperCoin
        
         | dawnerd wrote:
         | W+K (not sure if they were part of this) is pretty good.
        
         | eindiran wrote:
         | On the topic of zany and bizarre KFC marketing strategies,
         | there have been several I bumped in to in the last few days.
         | 
         | This dating simulator is published by KFC, starring the Colonel
         | himself:
         | https://store.steampowered.com/app/1121910/I_Love_You_Colone...
         | 
         | Another bizarre one I encountered in the last few days; there
         | is the new Lifetime movie about Colonel Sanders starring Mario
         | Lopez, entitled "A Recipe for Seduction"....
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGUMA2LwskQ
         | 
         | [EDIT] Apparently the whole mini-movie is available online:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0e7Bj_7T3k
        
           | tclancy wrote:
           | Is Steam compatible with the new Coolermaster?
           | https://landing.coolermaster.com/kfconsole/
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | As consumers naturally learn to tune out advertising,
         | advertisers must constantly adapt in order to get past their
         | cognitive defenses.
        
       | at_a_remove wrote:
       | It is interesting to see how much of human parsing of language
       | depends on prior probability, probably expected pairs of
       | concepts, because I had double-take on that sentence, since my
       | brain really was not expecting to find combinations of KFC,
       | Malbolge, or General Hospital in a single sentence.
        
         | motohagiography wrote:
         | Seriously thought the whole thing was generated by a connector
         | between GPT-3 and a new deepfake engine. Still think that's
         | what it is. This is mind breaking.
        
           | dane-pgp wrote:
           | Ah, you beat me to writing a comment that mentioned GPT-3,
           | but I promise I didn't see yours when I started writing mine.
           | Perhaps human thoughts are more predictable than we like to
           | believe.
           | 
           | Anyway, to make your suggestion of "a new deepfake engine"
           | more concrete, let me include a reference to DALL-E, the
           | recently announced text-to-image engine from OpenAI:
           | 
           | https://venturebeat.com/2021/01/16/openais-text-to-image-
           | eng...
        
             | motohagiography wrote:
             | Thank you, that's deeply horrifying! :)
        
         | dane-pgp wrote:
         | I had a similar experiencing when reading it, and now I'm
         | wondering if there is a way to use a language model like GPT-3
         | to measure how unlikely a given string of words is, relative to
         | other headlines.
        
           | siegecraft wrote:
           | I don't think you need something that heavyweight to do this
           | (although maybe for an entire headline). Amazon has had the
           | "Statistically Improbable Phrases" feature for books for
           | quite a while now.
        
       | vessenes wrote:
       | KFC's current marketing team is on fire. My teenagers sat us down
       | recently and forced us to watch the kfc lifetime special, and
       | have been asking for their gaming console (comes with a warming
       | bucket for chicken, natch). HBS cases are going to be written
       | about these mad geniuses very soon.
        
         | Melting_Harps wrote:
         | > KFC's current marketing team is on fire. My teenagers sat us
         | down recently and forced us to watch the kfc lifetime special,
         | and have been asking for their gaming console (comes with a
         | warming bucket for chicken, natch). HBS cases are going to be
         | written about these mad geniuses very soon.
         | 
         | What the absolute fuck is this... I can't wrap my head around
         | what seems like an AI based structured sentence, that I presume
         | you wrote, and is starkly reminiscent of that story written
         | about an app based darknet economy that is really just an AI
         | meant to kept Humans addicted to devices and plugged into 'the
         | matrix,' but I can't help but be intrigued.
         | 
         | Can you provide links to this console and this series... I want
         | to give myself a reason to stop being on the internet for a few
         | days and I'm sure this would do it.
        
           | eindiran wrote:
           | Console: https://landing.coolermaster.com/kfconsole/
           | 
           | Lifetime movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0e7Bj_7T3k
           | 
           | Bonus round -- the KFC dating simulator game: https://store.s
           | teampowered.com/app/1121910/I_Love_You_Colone...
        
             | Melting_Harps wrote:
             | It has fucking Slater from Saved by the Bell as the Colonel
             | in it!!
             | 
             | Oh, I can't take more of this I'm taking an internet
             | sabbatical for a few days, this it just too much non-sense
             | to process.
             | 
             | It's like the Corpo dramatized parody version the
             | Libertarian(r) Utopia(tm) [0] story run amok.
             | 
             | In case its relevent: if I ever feel like fried chicken and
             | get tired of chicken katsu or kare-age, I'm going for the
             | grocery store option or Popeye's, this is the worst thing
             | I've seen in ages and we really have to a deep look at
             | ourselves if this actually works to move KFC buckets in
             | masse.
             | 
             | I'm going dark for a few days.
             | 
             | 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DloaYxQn1BM
        
           | dharmab wrote:
           | The "Console" is just a gaming PC in a novelty case.
        
         | dharmab wrote:
         | If only they sold a decent product.
        
         | resu_nimda wrote:
         | Arguably this started decades ago when they successfully
         | established the KFC Party Barrel as a traditional Christmas
         | meal in Japan.
        
       | ravenstine wrote:
       | They should bring back the actual secret KFC recipe. Sanders
       | actually said that, after he sold the company, they changed the
       | recipe and he thought it sucked.
        
       | smoyer wrote:
       | While watching college b-ball with my son last night, I noticed
       | that the field-house at Louisville is (now?) named the "KFC Yum!
       | Center". I can't really eat KFC but do appreciate brands that can
       | poke fun at themselves or otherwise advertise with some humor.
       | The melting Colonel Sanders snowman was a little creepy though!
       | 
       | [0] https://www.kfcyumcenter.com/
        
         | modzu wrote:
         | i find it kind of unsettling how the colonel lives on as a
         | cartoon
        
         | dekhn wrote:
         | Wasn't clear if you knew this, but KFC is owned by "Yum!
         | Brands"
        
       | phaedryx wrote:
       | My takeaways:
       | 
       | 1. Colonel Sanders is cannon in General Hospital
       | 
       | 2. He knows how to code; in Malbolge
       | 
       | 3. He doesn't know how to pronounce Malbolge
       | 
       | 4. He was cursed by a warlock
       | 
       | 5. Some Syndicates cannot be reasoned with
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/generalhospital/status/10153849081921904...
        
       | jandrese wrote:
       | The Venn Diagram of people who know about Malbolge and people who
       | watch General Hospital has to have little to no overlap. Was this
       | reference made for exactly one guy or something?
        
         | mbg721 wrote:
         | Perhaps the people writing General Hospital would rather not be
         | doing that, but it makes too much money to cancel and the
         | audience is inelastic, so they decided to have some fun.
        
         | notatoad wrote:
         | >Was this reference made for exactly one guy
         | 
         | probably yes, and that one guy works as the technical
         | consultant on the show.
        
         | SkyMarshal wrote:
         | Maybe it was just an experiment with viral marketing,
         | estimating a 1%-10% chance it would make it into programmer
         | social media circles and make them hungry for KFC instead of
         | pizza or avocado toast.
         | 
         | The inclusion of Malbolge is obviously intended to cause them
         | to look up how it works, resulting in acceleration of both
         | their mental fatigue and physical hunger.
        
           | mywittyname wrote:
           | Might have also been included because Malbolge is included in
           | a listicle that is the top search result for "weird
           | programming languages." I wouldn't be surprised if show
           | writers did a search for something close to that phrase,
           | found the article, immediately got the literary reference and
           | included it in the show for that reason.
           | 
           | Also, you probably can't say brainfuck on daytime TV. None of
           | the other languages had interesting names, i.e., glass,
           | whitespace, chicken, lolcode.
           | 
           | Edit: They've probably done something similar with other
           | technical topics, but we don't watch the show to know. Such
           | as, having a rocket scientist on the show talking about
           | building rocket recovery wadding or something after looking
           | through a GIS for "rocket parts."
        
             | jandrese wrote:
             | "Malbolge" does at least sound sinister, so if you're going
             | for an evil hacker vibe it's perfect.
        
             | tclancy wrote:
             | >Also, you probably can't say brainfuck
             | 
             | Honestly, I have never figured out how to say that code out
             | loud anywhere.
        
               | recursive wrote:
               | I've found a lot of places where you can just say it
               | normally.
        
             | Aeronwen wrote:
             | INTERCAL seems well-suited for daytime TV.
        
       | snake_plissken wrote:
       | I love these commercials (and the Dr Pepper Fansville ones). So
       | stupidly clever.
       | 
       | But man KFC makes me feel so very ill afterwards. I'm not sure
       | what exactly it is: I can eat Chik Filays and Burger King fine
       | (the ~3-4 times a year I get fast food). But KFC, it's been like
       | 7-8 years and I just steer clear now. It's nostalgically
       | saddening because I remember loving the stuff when I was a kid,
       | especially those mashed potatoes.
        
         | mywittyname wrote:
         | KFC probably does not today taste much like it did when you
         | were a kid (unless you are very young).
         | 
         | > especially those mashed potatoes.
         | 
         | Their potatoes are made from those dehydrated potato flakes and
         | powdered gravy. You can make a decent facsimile using Idaho
         | Spuds and Heinz jarred Homestyle Chicken gravy.
        
       | Apocryphon wrote:
       | This is like the modern equivalent of the Max Headroom signal
       | hijacking. Bizarre mashups of tech, television and corporate
       | icons. It's definitely a form of culture jamming.
        
         | munificent wrote:
         | ...except this time it's literally just marketing material for
         | a giant corporation hawking junk food. The opposite of culture
         | jamming, I guess.
        
           | Apocryphon wrote:
           | The commodification of culture jamming!
        
           | krrrh wrote:
           | The guy that named gifs may insist on a soft g, but he's
           | obviously wrong or a troll because graphic isn't pronounced
           | /jrafik/, and everyone other than a few pedants pronounce it
           | the correct way.
           | 
           | Similarly, Kalle Lasn's perspective was limited by ideology
           | when he coined "culture jamming". The term's usage has
           | expanded to encompass a wider range of mashups, thumbs-in-
           | eyes, and appropriations than what its creator intended, and
           | is frequently used in ways that raises the hackles of old
           | school readers of _Adbusters_.
           | 
           | In some ways its modern usage has become a meta-commentary on
           | itself.
        
             | eindiran wrote:
             | I agree with your general point, but the claim "everyone
             | other than a few pedants pronounce it the correct way" does
             | not match my experience at all. People I talk to seem to be
             | pretty evenly split on the matter, and most are entirely
             | unaware that there is any controversy about the
             | pronunciation at all.
        
       | isaacimagine wrote:
       | Beautiful.
        
       | oh_sigh wrote:
       | FWIW the title is probably the best part of this story. I watched
       | the video clips and it just seems no different from any other
       | cheesy soap opera.
        
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