[HN Gopher] A 19th-Century Vision of the Year 2000
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       A 19th-Century Vision of the Year 2000
        
       Author : giuliomagnifico
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2021-01-18 19:34 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | twoslide wrote:
       | Reminds me of these BBC interviews with children in 1966,
       | imagining the year 2000 (video):
       | https://twitter.com/BBCArchive/status/946365140642889728
        
       | jedberg wrote:
       | Everyone and everything flies, and everything is automated with
       | steampunk automation.
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | People get predictions wrong because they usually just extend
       | ideas and concerns from their present lives into the future. It's
       | understandable, and to some extent I think you can't get around
       | doing that, except by randomly guessing and occasionally getting
       | things right. I think about that picture of the winged mailman
       | whenever futurists prognosticate about how we'll live in 20
       | years, let alone 100.
        
       | gibolt wrote:
       | Honestly, many of these images aren't that far off.
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       | Replace the mechanisms with today's robots or the rural postman
       | with a digital worker (email).
       | 
       | Flying cars may still be a ways off, but flying busses
       | (airplanes) are certainly quite commonplace and have transformed
       | the world.
        
       | bpcpdx wrote:
       | I like how they dressed us all nice.
        
       | Svip wrote:
       | What I find noticeable is how it misses automotive infrastructure
       | entirely, and instead focuses on aeroplanes. Some cars are
       | depicted, but roads in the rural depictions are still dirt roads,
       | not anticipating they would be paved. Paved roads did exist
       | before the 1890s, as they were generally used for cyclists.
       | 
       | With the Panhard brothers arranging the Paris to Lyon race in the
       | 1890s, you'd think the artist would have heard of this, and
       | anticipated more cars. Notice the background of the cities, there
       | are almost no cars on the streets.
        
       | jl6 wrote:
       | I did not know that the word helicopter was in use back then, nor
       | that the first helicopter was built in 1901, before some of these
       | postcards!
        
       | perrohunter wrote:
       | Were they somehow expecting that we would live underwater by now?
       | _cought_ Rapture _cought_
        
       | monocasa wrote:
       | I find it interesting the equivalence they make between the
       | future's conquest of air and sea. Most of the air infrastructure
       | listed exists today if you squint hard enough, particularly with
       | the recent advent of increasingly ubiquitous drones. The conquest
       | of the deep however hasn't extended much past diving suits and
       | exploration, with the possible exception of oil extraction.
       | 
       | "Who here is down to start seahorse racing?" is basically what
       | I'm asking, lol.
        
       | Emma_Goldman wrote:
       | A testament to how little we can see beyond the existing frontier
       | of scientific and technological development. The slides depicting
       | the mechanisation of work, chores and music are accurate enough,
       | but automation has been a continuous trend elapsing over several
       | hundred years - they simply extrapolated forward that which was
       | already abundantly evident. But the futuristic automation of the
       | future envisioned here is, of course, just the automation of
       | nineteenth century technologies.
       | 
       | Also, what's up with the pictures of humans riding sea
       | creatures?!
        
         | oh_sigh wrote:
         | And why would you go fishing for sea gulls?
        
         | cogman10 wrote:
         | > Also, what's up with the pictures of humans riding sea
         | creatures?!
         | 
         | Probably had a lot to do with 20000 leagues under the sea.
         | 
         | I was actually surprised at how much flying was depicted. While
         | blimps were a thing, the idea of an aircraft as pictured wasn't
         | something that existed (AFAIK). You can see some of that with
         | the fact that everyone just had wings and nothing else.
         | However, there were a few propeller airplanes in the mix which
         | somewhat surprised me.
         | 
         | The other part I find fascinating is what they thought you
         | COULD easily automate with mechanical means (like a barber,
         | lol!)
         | 
         | Some of it they hit right on the mark (like farming) others
         | were way off on how easily they'd be automated.
         | 
         | I also thought the automated band was simply funny. I'm sure we
         | could do it today, but why? We'd rather digitally record and
         | replay that 10000 times.
        
           | derekp7 wrote:
           | Weren't player pianos (and nickelodeons) a thing back then?
           | Plus, if you've ever visited "House on the Rock" in Wisconsin
           | the mechanical orchestras are pretty neat to watch.
        
           | Jtsummers wrote:
           | A reason to have a band or orchestra versus recordings played
           | over speakers is that there is a noticeable difference
           | (though this also depends on the space being used) in sound.
           | A recording is _not_ the same as a live performance (whether
           | by humans or robots).
        
           | soperj wrote:
           | I went to a museum in the Netherlands full of various
           | automated band builds, and some of them were incredible (also
           | huge), but definitely a massive difference between hearing it
           | live vs recording. I couldn't imagine what seeing of one
           | these in the streets would be like back in the day.
        
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