[HN Gopher] Jwz: I told you so, 2021 edition
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       Jwz: I told you so, 2021 edition
        
       Author : rcarmo
       Score  : 55 points
       Date   : 2021-01-16 11:56 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | mindslight wrote:
       | Another approach to splitting out the lock dialog would be to
       | fire up another whole X server. That would be so bloated, the
       | desktop environment developers might just go for it.
        
         | eqvinox wrote:
         | The bloat isn't in the X server, it's in the DE itself. You can
         | start an X server and an xterm (without even a window manager)
         | on pretty much an empty tank.
        
       | rcarmo wrote:
       | Archive org link because Jamie has strong feelings about being
       | linked from HN (even down to blocking the folk on Twitter who do
       | so).
        
       | bzb6 wrote:
       | Linux still not ready as a desktop operating system, news at
       | eleven.
        
         | rvz wrote:
         | There you go. The same old reasons are still applied and
         | unsolved.
        
         | shrimp_emoji wrote:
         | Well, more like the Cinnamon DE isn't. And, yeah, if you stray
         | from the two superpower DEs with the most dev polish (KDE and
         | GNOME), you're asking for jank and bugs.
        
           | eqvinox wrote:
           | Did you even read the article? "Hold enter, unlock Gnome-
           | screensaver."
           | 
           | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1308572
           | 
           | If you go back to an older GNOME version you can probably
           | also find the current Cinnamon bug in there, it is in
           | libcaribou after all.
        
           | noir_lord wrote:
           | I switched from XFCE to Cinnamon after I couldn't get on with
           | Gnome, Cinnamon is (for my use case) way less "janky" than
           | Gnome since the only way to get close to what I consider a
           | pleasant productive desktop on Gnome is to install a bunch of
           | very buggy plugins.
           | 
           | Cinnamon at least makes operating like a classic DE a first
           | order priority and it works nice across multiple screens.
           | 
           | KDE does the same but aesthetically KDE drives me crazy for
           | some reason starting with the complete lack of
           | standardisation on padding and going down hill from there.
        
         | mixedCase wrote:
         | Yup, you're right. One hopes that Windows and macOS become
         | ready at one point given their enormous corporate backing, so
         | at least we can have one desktop OS that is actually usable and
         | semi-secure.
         | 
         | Alas, one just had a filesystem corruption bug caused by a
         | slightly weird input and the other shits all over a different
         | subsection of their userbase with every new major release
         | between breaking their workflow and bugs like this one, where
         | you can "hold enter to root".
        
           | tinus_hn wrote:
           | MacOS doesn't have a secure desktop either.
        
       | muth02446 wrote:
       | Alternative for screen locking on Linux
       | 
       | https://github.com/google/xsecurelock
        
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