[HN Gopher] January Update: Happy New Gear - PINE64
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January Update: Happy New Gear - PINE64
Author : RealStickman_
Score : 54 points
Date : 2021-01-15 18:42 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.pine64.org)
| justusthane wrote:
| Excited to see they've made progress on sourcing LCDs for the
| Pinebook Pros! Looking forward to ordering one as soon as they
| have them back in stock.
| anderspitman wrote:
| Been working on getting a dev environment up and running for
| making GUI apps for my PinePhone. Compiling on the phone itself
| is simply too slow.
|
| I've poured a few hours into fiddling with QEMU aarch64. I've got
| the compilation going. Still seems too slow, might need to go
| through the pain of getting cross-compiling working. I also
| haven't been able to get a display working yet.
|
| Can anyone recommend a good tutorial for either/both:
|
| 1. Setting up QEMU/aarch64 with a working display device? Ideally
| needs to work on a reasonably old distro so that the executables
| will dynamically link on a range of distros.
|
| 2. Cross-compiling for PinePhone or Raspberry pi, which should be
| close enough to figure out the rest.
| jolmg wrote:
| Another option might be compiling on an RPi4 (haven't checked
| if it's the same ARM arch) or other "powerful" ARM machine.
|
| You could also _not_ compile by using a language that doesn 't
| require it.
| BuildTheRobots wrote:
| Pretty sure the pine is arm64 rather than armHF. I know I've
| installed Pi (hf) packages onto my Pine, but I'm not sure you
| can actually compile natively on a Pi without it cross
| compiling -and at that point a desktop is almost certainly
| faster.
|
| Nearly everyone else on HN is likely to have more
| understanding than me though, so listen to them as/when they
| set me straight :)
|
| I have to say though, when it comes to network IO, my
| original kickstarter pine64 blows the raspberry pi's out of
| the water (though this might just be due to the network card
| not being strung off the USB bus).
| anderspitman wrote:
| You know what I actually hadn't considered how much more
| powerful my RPi4 is than the PinePhone. I'll give this a
| shot, thanks.
|
| Can you recommend a GUI library in a scripting language that
| doesn't require linking against a behemoth like QT or GTK?
| For reference I'm currently playing with fyne which is a
| golang library which pretty much just needs X11 and GL
| libraries, which is about the best you can do on Linux AFAIK.
|
| Don't really care what the language is. It's probably going
| to shell out to a static golang binary anyway.
| ptx wrote:
| For Python there is Kivy[1] which works on both Android and
| desktop Linux (as well as other platforms), so it ought to
| work on PinePhone, I would assume.
|
| [1] https://kivy.org/
| deivid wrote:
| on debian you could just install gcc-10-aarch64-linux-gnu and
| have a working cross compiler?
| jolmg wrote:
| I wonder how much the price of PineTime would have risen if they
| had made it able to run Linux. Kind of feel that whatever
| software is developed for it wouldn't have much of a future
| because it wouldn't be portable and interoperable with other
| software.
|
| For example, for a smartwatch I ultimately want to run a
| timekeeping app that connects to an emacs daemon (for working
| with org-mode buffers) through a VPN to a personal server, taking
| into account the watch eventually evolving to one that supports a
| cellular modem.
|
| Doing something worth doing, from scratch, seems too much. I
| wonder what their vision is. What are they hoping PineTime
| eventually evolves to? Are they expecting it to never stop being
| a companion to a phone?
| varispeed wrote:
| Ultimately until all the loopholes are not fixed the companies
| will have to behave like Apple to survive (walled gardens,
| anti-repair agenda, data collection, Orwell's speak - e.g.
| touting being privacy oriented and at the same time collecting
| massive amount of data they don't need for other reasons than
| to manipulate consumers and so on).
| jsight wrote:
| I suspect the intention is to never stop being a phone
| companion. Having the phone there allows the watch to be very
| low power, which helps greatly with battery life.
|
| It also means that goals such as yours are possible with the
| mere addition of a companion app on the phone.
|
| If you want more than that, you'd probably want to consider
| something like an Android Wear device, with the accompanying
| tradeoffs.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| It seems an odd choice to begin a newsletter to one's
| international customer base with "Let us all hope that the
| difficulties brought about by the COVID-19 virus are now waning
| and that more aspects of our lives will return to normal soon,"
| when officials in several EU countries have recently said that
| restrictions are likely to last until very late 2021, because
| even in a best-case scenario not enough people will be vaccinated
| until then.
|
| But one can understand Pine64's impatience for the crisis to
| pass: COVID has seriously slowed down international shipping, and
| the forums have been full of people complaining that their order
| (if they chose regular post and not DHL) has taken weeks or
| months to reach them. Buyers have been blaming Pine64 for
| shipping issues that they have no control over.
| worik wrote:
| This international customer is in Aotearoa.
|
| I know the crises has not passed, it could flare up again, and
| flare up here. But not all the world is doing badly. Some of us
| are in good shape.
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| I know New Zealanders and Australians often like to brag that
| life is normal for them thanks to their country's bold
| measures, but that is not the case: you still cannot travel
| internationally, nor can you receive international guests or
| do business with international tourists. You, too, have to
| wait for things to go back to normal.
| worik wrote:
| I hate international travel.
|
| International "guests" have been a mixed blessing. We used
| to get >1,000,000 tourists a year. The opportunity cost of
| tying up that many resources for a small country of
| 5,000,000 is huge.
|
| Mixed, yes. Part of the world we are, but I for one will
| not be unhappy if international travel becomes much harder.
|
| And please let's not go back to normal!! We are headed to
| catastrophe, we must change...
| jsight wrote:
| I don't see the issue, tbh. Hopeing that the issues are waning
| and more aspects of our lives will return to normal is not
| inconsistent with an expectation that some restrictions will
| continue throughout the year.
|
| That those restrictions will soon trend downward instead of
| upward is a great hope for a lot of people this year, all
| throughout the world.
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