[HN Gopher] McDonald's Theory on How Best to Rescue Conversations
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       McDonald's Theory on How Best to Rescue Conversations
        
       Author : omalya890
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2021-01-13 20:37 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | cbanek wrote:
       | For me, back when I used to have coworkers that I would see and
       | eat with, we would have the default be tacobell, which was the
       | closest lunchtime option, but terrible. It forced us to travel
       | the town to other options, although I've also eaten too much taco
       | bell!
        
       | curiousllama wrote:
       | Suggesting McDonalds is only half the insight - and contextual,
       | anyway. Instead, give an arbitrary binary choice. "Would you like
       | tacos or sushi?" will often elicit (1) a choice or (2) a third
       | option ("I kind of want a burger"), which is now the default.
       | 
       | A binary choice gets you to a default.
        
         | Aerroon wrote:
         | If you can't decide between two options then take out a coin.
         | Heads you get a burger, tails you get tacos. Flip the coin. If
         | you feel even a tinge of regret or disappointment over the
         | result, then go with the other option. Being faced with a
         | specific concrete option can make it easier to rank it compared
         | to alternatives.
         | 
         | I learned of this idea from a TED talk many years ago.
        
       | scanny wrote:
       | This was beautifully written
        
       | bruceb wrote:
       | "found the odds of Seinfeld were better than sports or weather as
       | a hurdle breaker. The combination of a personal like for a cult
       | classic..."
       | 
       | This dinged the credibility. Not sure how mainstream show
       | Seinfeld can be thought of as a cult classic. Unless this is
       | thrown in there to spark conversation here on how he is wrong.
        
         | snakeboy wrote:
         | To be fair, it's obvious the author is a non-native speaker.
         | It's totally reasonable to miss the subtlety that a "cult
         | classic" usually implies that it's not mainstream. Google
         | doesn't even make that obvious in it first result: "something,
         | typically a film or book, that is popular or fashionable among
         | a particular group or section of society."
         | 
         | I don't really see how that hurts his credibility, since it's
         | clear what happened and what the author meant. If your
         | interpretation was that the author was trying to highlight his
         | niche 90s sitcom tastes, then I think you were the one
         | committing the communication error here.
        
         | mixmastamyk wrote:
         | While mainstream at the time, it's been ~25 years. Stingy IP
         | holders share some of the blame, although I hear the show is
         | coming to Netflix soon.
        
           | hulahoof wrote:
           | All seasons are on Amazon prime! I love to put on Seinfeld as
           | a background show
        
           | jaden wrote:
           | It's been on Hulu for a few years, just FYI.
        
       | arghwhat wrote:
       | Medium requiring an account to read. Ugh.
        
         | dredmorbius wrote:
         | https://pastebin.com/3zKwSc9W
        
         | lotsofpulp wrote:
         | I don't see that in iOS Safari with Wipr.
        
         | AnimalMuppet wrote:
         | Not to me. (I'm running Firefox on Windows.)
        
       | djrogers wrote:
       | If I suggest McDonalds to my family, the wife and 3 kids will all
       | say yes. Heck, if I suggest Popeye's, 3 of the 4 will still say
       | McDonalds...
        
         | tomjakubowski wrote:
         | That's terrible, I'm so sorry. McDonalds over Popeyes? It hurts
         | when family succumbs to such wild and crazy beliefs.
        
           | m463 wrote:
           | popeyes should give free toys to the kids inside their meal
           | as a kickback.
        
         | jolux wrote:
         | That's criminal, I like McDonald's but Popeye's is brilliant.
         | Scarce in New England though.
        
           | Alupis wrote:
           | It's not quite the same, but Bojangle's are all over the east
           | coast: https://www.bojangles.com/
        
       | coderintherye wrote:
       | If you like this line of thinking, I would suggest reading "Games
       | People Play" [1] (also can find the original research paper if
       | you look around for it).
       | 
       | Basic premise is how we fall into transactional games in social
       | settings (talking about weather, sports, etc) and acknowledging
       | that can help break out of that into more interesting
       | conversation.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.amazon.com/Games-People-Play-Psychology-
       | Relation...
        
         | filoleg wrote:
         | Just bought the book based off your recommendation, thanks a
         | lot for that.
         | 
         | I was curious to read something along the lines of thinking the
         | OP was musing on, but couldn't phrase it in a way that would
         | help me find it. And neither did i suspect that it was an
         | actual thing people wrote about, as opposed to just me having
         | some random thoughts and wishing someone wrote about those.
         | Reading the description of that book makes me believe that you
         | absolutely nailed it with that recommendation.
        
       | joshuamcginnis wrote:
       | I've been shocked by the old plastic slides at McDonalds so many
       | times as a kid that I salivate whenever I hear the word.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | I wonder if this is more effective if you slide before eating
         | or after eating?
        
       | automatoney wrote:
       | This post is decently interesting and fun although I can't really
       | understand where it's going? I see the connections between the
       | ideas the author is making but overall the post feels rather
       | meandering.
       | 
       | Aside: I hate to be a grammarian but the paragraph with four em
       | dashes across two sentences really did my head in. Generally I
       | expect them to set off parentheticals and I had no clue if I was
       | supposed to place the parentheses across the sentences.
        
         | Mulpze15 wrote:
         | >I can't really understand where it's going?
         | 
         | Same here. That's why I find it interesting. Some half baked
         | ideas that feel accurate and useful. No big theory about life.
         | Perfect blog post.
        
         | rustyminnow wrote:
         | It meanders and I love it.
         | 
         | The author mentions that he tends to take initiative even when
         | ideas are only half baked, and you can see it in his post. It
         | feels rough and loose, like the ideas haven't been polished to
         | perfection yet. There is no grand claim here.
         | 
         | I appreciate that all of the answers aren't served up on a
         | silver platter and we're left to do with these theories what we
         | will. It's raw and refreshing and I find it very engaging.
        
       | sokoloff wrote:
       | With many of my friend groups, suggesting McDonalds results in us
       | eating at McDonalds.
        
         | keithwhor wrote:
         | That's because your friends are awesome.
        
         | MeinBlutIstBlau wrote:
         | People who turn their noses up at McDonald's were spoiled as
         | kids
        
           | stretchcat wrote:
           | Funny, as a kid I felt the opposite. Getting to eat
           | McDonalds, or fastfood at all, was a rare treat because it
           | was expensive. On road trips, my parents packed cold soggy
           | sandwiches for me and my brothers. These days though, I
           | associate McDonalds with 'no other option' and don't care for
           | the food at all (probably because I never developed much of a
           | taste for it in the first place?)
        
           | mod wrote:
           | Especially right now. It's 2 for $5, including Big Macs.
        
         | asdf333 wrote:
         | i think there needs to be the threat that it might potentially
         | end up being the option to spark the conversation.
         | 
         | i sincerely would like to eat mcdonald's but since it's not
         | considered a serious option, they just laugh and the stalemate
         | continues
        
       | pacamara619 wrote:
       | Great read but I've learned nothing. The only think I took away
       | from this is that I want to go to the maccas but it's closed so
       | thanks for making me hungry I guess.
        
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