[HN Gopher] Twitter Now Counts Every Emoji as Equal
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       Twitter Now Counts Every Emoji as Equal
        
       Author : heinrich5991
       Score  : 5 points
       Date   : 2021-01-09 19:36 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | umeshunni wrote:
       | What a brain dead solution. The right thing to do would be to get
       | rid of character limits altogether But that would require Twitter
       | to actually have a leader and product innovation, which it
       | doesn't.
        
         | NikolaeVarius wrote:
         | Clearly your idea is revolutionary and something twitter could
         | not have possibly considered before.
         | 
         | Twitter should take the bold innovative, leadership showing,
         | step of "getting rid of character limits" even though it goes
         | against the core product design of twitter i.e. forcing smaller
         | packets of thought per post.
        
         | tenryuu wrote:
         | I don't think turning a microblogging platform into a more
         | generic one is any sort of innovation
        
         | JoshTriplett wrote:
         | Twitter's character limit is part of the definition of the
         | platform. It's a constraint of the type that can spark
         | innovation and creativity. It encourages people to be brief, or
         | else go to extra trouble to not be brief. It encourages
         | individual messages to be quickly consumable. When interacting
         | with Twitter, the character limit isn't just about the length
         | of _your_ messages, it 's about the length of _other people 's_
         | messages.
         | 
         | This is part of why the emergent property that "languages that
         | express more in fewer characters tend to use characters that
         | count as more than 1/240" was not removed, and was instead seen
         | as desirable. The real limit is a rough "how long does it take
         | to process one tweet".
         | 
         | "get rid of character limits", in the context of Twitter, would
         | not be product innovation, nor an especially good marketing
         | move. It would substantially change the nature and character of
         | Twitter. At the very least, it isn't obvious that it'd be a net
         | positive. It would also remove a major point of
         | differentiation.
         | 
         | This announced improvement is the net result of "how do we
         | solve this problem while still having a character limit". It's
         | a natural evolution, rather than a massive change to the
         | landscape.
        
           | julienreszka wrote:
           | Twitter was a mistake. Think about it. It just pushed people
           | to reduce the depth of the expression of their thoughts to
           | the size of of a slogan. What could possibly go wrong? I will
           | tell you what: It incentivize laziness. It makes people less
           | patient. It reduces our ability to argue, make a point. It
           | reduces the quality of the conversations in general. You
           | can't really clarify what you want to say in such a limited
           | number of characters. Is that what you really want?
        
             | JoshTriplett wrote:
             | I'm not going to argue here about whether Twitter's
             | character limit produces better or worse discourse by any
             | particular metric. My only point in the comment above was
             | that the character limit remains a fundamental
             | characteristic of Twitter, and removing that constraint
             | would _qualitatively_ change Twitter, in a way that  "emoji
             | now always count as 2" and "we're moving from 140 to 280
             | characters" did not.
             | 
             | Constraints _can_ lead people to be more innovative and
             | creative. That does not mean they universally do, only that
             | they _can_. Removing such constraints is thus not an
             | _obvious_ improvement with zero potential downside.
        
               | nomagicbullet wrote:
               | I 100% agree that constraints can be great fuel for
               | creativity. Innovation is not about examining all
               | possibilities, is about finding the unexplored paths.
               | Sometimes fewer options means you can more easily focus
               | on discovery something new vs exploring what's already
               | out there.
        
               | julienreszka wrote:
               | I used to believe this too but I changed my mind
               | eventually. Do you know what changed my mind? I was
               | swimming in the Lac Leman in Geneva. I decided to go
               | underwater and hold my breath for a while, I noticed that
               | I couldn't stay that long while my brother who had his
               | gear could look underwater for a long time and enjoy it
               | way more. That's when it hit me. Constrains don't make
               | you more creative per se. They only force you to create
               | workarounds, but in the end that's all it is, workarounds
               | not really a good breath of fresh air. Hopefully the
               | analogy makes sense to you too.
        
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