[HN Gopher] Can I buy a phone that doesn't use anything from Goo...
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       Can I buy a phone that doesn't use anything from Google or Apple?
        
       Author : throwaway888abc
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2021-01-09 19:05 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
        
       | beagle3 wrote:
       | Article mentions Librem, KaiOS and Jolla but fails to mention
       | PinePhone which is (IMO) the most promising echo system so far.
       | 
       | Also, there's PostMarketOS which is Google/Apple free, though
       | you'd have to buy a Googled device and install it yourself (and
       | ... it's not remotely close to being usable day-to-day last I
       | heard)
        
         | fsflover wrote:
         | Why is Pinephone the most promising ecosystem? In fact more
         | than half of its users run Phosh written by Purism for Librem
         | 5. There are no paid developers for Pinephone.
        
           | agsdfagsd wrote:
           | Because it is affordable, and more importantly, because it
           | _shipped_. I 'm thankful for the open source work the folks
           | at Purism have put out, but the reality of the situation is
           | that I can drop $800 and wait a few months on a Librem, or I
           | can drop $150 and wait a few weeks on a Pinephone. If I
           | splurge and spend $50 more ($200), I even end up with a
           | Pinephone with more RAM than the Librem.
           | 
           | The only real wins for the Librem are aesthetics (it's
           | pretty), an ever so slightly higher clock speed on the ARM64
           | cores, and a GPU that is historically better supported by
           | open source software. The final point is of less and less
           | concern every day now that Mali is seeing open source
           | support.
        
       | jqpabc123 wrote:
       | https://e.foundation/
        
         | paulryanrogers wrote:
         | Article mentions them as an ASOP derived effort. So not
         | entirely free of Google.
        
       | umeshunni wrote:
       | Yes, there are plenty of Chinese phones that the blogger can buy.
        
       | stevespang wrote:
       | . . . . runs the KaiOS operating system, in which Google has
       | invested $22 million.
       | 
       | If Google has invested $22 million, that means they BOUGHT rights
       | to gather all your info, same as they did with Apple default
       | search.
       | 
       | So avoid KaiOS.
        
       | fsflover wrote:
       | (2019)
        
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