[HN Gopher] Roku buys Quibi content for less than $100M
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       Roku buys Quibi content for less than $100M
        
       Author : mimixco
       Score  : 65 points
       Date   : 2021-01-09 15:02 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | OnlyMortal wrote:
       | What a waste of money.
        
       | 0goel0 wrote:
       | $1 is "less than" $100M
        
       | mdoms wrote:
       | Never heard of either of these companies.
        
       | m3kw9 wrote:
       | That's exactly what you call pennies on the dollar
        
       | hobofan wrote:
       | Doing some ballpark math based on the content that is listed on
       | the wiki page[0], there is around ~165 hours of original Quibi
       | content.
       | 
       | As comparison $100M would get you one year of streaming rights to
       | Friends or Seinfeld (~100 hours of watchime each).
       | 
       | [0]:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Quibi_original_program...
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | sjg007 wrote:
       | This is also Roku's foray into original content. They own the
       | display which gives them a big vertical advantage. It's nice that
       | you can use roku out of the box with minimal setup... I know a
       | lot of people that have trouble setting up apple tv or even a dvd
       | player for example.
        
       | tengbretson wrote:
       | This is a lot of money to pay for something that brings less
       | value to the platform than having a functioning youtube app.
        
         | hollerith wrote:
         | Is it certain that having a functioning youtube app is under
         | Roku's control? For all I know, Youtube doesn't want Roku
         | devices to have a functioning youtube app.
        
         | dreamcompiler wrote:
         | I'd be happy with an HBOMax app that doesn't consistently crash
         | whenever I open it.
        
           | t3rabytes wrote:
           | I've yet to find a platform where the HBO Max app isn't a
           | total piece of garbage, iOS included.
        
             | hsod wrote:
             | Works great on Apple TV
        
       | tomdell wrote:
       | That's a high price for one season of Reno 911.
        
       | anshumankmr wrote:
       | Definitely overpaid it by at least 100 million.
        
         | demifiend wrote:
         | Yeah, it looks like somebody at Roku didn't think this through
         | to me, too. Don't they have enough better-quality content that
         | they don't particularly need Quibi's library? If Quibi
         | themselves couldn't profit from these 10-minute episodes after
         | spending $2 billion to make them, why do the people at Roku
         | think they'll recoup their $100 million? Is there a tax angle
         | we're not seeing?
        
           | AznHisoka wrote:
           | It's the same reason Cobrai Kai failed until Netflix bought
           | it. Roku has the solution to the distribution problem. Quibi
           | didn't.
        
         | shampto3 wrote:
         | The content wasn't the problem, IMO. The platform was the main
         | issue. Some of the content on there like "Most Dangerous Game"
         | were things I was interested in watching, just not in ten
         | minute chunks on my phone.
        
           | sjg007 wrote:
           | The mistake Quibi made was charging for content. The idea
           | otherwise is solid.
        
             | Jochim wrote:
             | It seems like a pretty terrible idea. They tried to cram
             | traditional formats into 10 minute blocks, there are two
             | major problems that seem immediately obvious with this:
             | 
             | 1. The content they produced is way too long to for the
             | time period they're trying to occupy. You might spend 10
             | minutes ordering a coffee but that 10 minutes will be split
             | into at least three segments whose length is arbitrary each
             | time. This wouldn't matter so much if point two didn't
             | exist
             | 
             | 2. They created the type of content that needs to be paid
             | attention to from start to end. They typically tried to
             | take long form video content and squeeze it into a 10
             | minute format. This makes it entirely unsuitable when
             | compared to the types of content people actually consume
             | during the periods targetted.
             | 
             | If you look at what people do during these time periods at
             | the moment, you'll see that they're all very resilient to
             | interruption by being unaffected by a lack of constant
             | attention (scrolling twitter/facebook), having each piece
             | of content be short enough that you'll likely be
             | starting/finishing one when interrupted (tiktok), or by
             | being a background task that doesn't demand constant
             | attention (music/podcasts).
             | 
             | The core idea behind Quibi seems to fail on all these
             | levels, the ineptitude displayed by attempting to charge
             | for an idea no one wanted, while also locking down the
             | platform/content so hard people that couldn't
             | clip/screengrab it is just a cherry on top. That it got to
             | the stage that it did just seems to be an indictment of
             | where we're at with the economy and society.
        
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               | sjg007 wrote:
               | You are correct, it's one of those terribly bad ideas
               | that could be a billion dollar company if executed
               | properly.
        
           | tmpz22 wrote:
           | The huge bet they made on "commuters will obsess over this"
           | seemed so disconnected from reality. As if their entire
           | executive board hadn't commuted in decades.
           | 
           | For one thing, in most metros its dangerous to engross
           | yourself in a video for so long (not that people aren't
           | oblivious). For another their are a billion other places to
           | get short-form content be it youtube, tiktok, instagram,
           | snapchat, etc. Just foolishness all the way down.
        
             | marcinzm wrote:
             | >As if their entire executive board hadn't commuted in
             | decades.
             | 
             | They probably all have personal chauffeurs or used uber
             | black cars so for them that was a typical commute.
        
             | puranjay wrote:
             | I, for one, get terrible nausea and motion sickness if I
             | look at screens while sitting in a cab.
             | 
             | I suspect this is a fairly big issue among commuters who
             | aren't taking the subway (which, in America, is practically
             | no one outside of NYC).
        
         | Hamuko wrote:
         | It's less than $100 million. I'm now left wondering if it's
         | actually something like $96 million or is it more like $3
         | million.
        
           | anshumankmr wrote:
           | Yep, that's the punchline.
        
           | sndean wrote:
           | Yeah, here a source says "significantly less" than $100
           | million, but people's definitions of significant can be very
           | different. At least I'd think that rules out $96 million.
           | 
           | https://www.wsj.com/articles/roku-acquires-rights-to-
           | quibi-s...
        
             | fullshark wrote:
             | Keep in mind they don't even get the IP, just the
             | (exclusive) rights to broadcast it for 7 years. I can't
             | imagine that's worth anything close to 100 million.
        
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