[HN Gopher] AMD's desktop CPU share passes Intel's for first tim...
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AMD's desktop CPU share passes Intel's for first time in 15 years
Author : giuliomagnifico
Score : 118 points
Date : 2021-01-04 18:43 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.techspot.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.techspot.com)
| theandrewbailey wrote:
| How are these numbers calculated? According to the linked
| Passmark page[0]:
|
| > This graph showing AMD and Intel market share is made up of
| thousands of PerformanceTest benchmark results and is updated
| daily.
|
| > This graph counts the baselines submitted to us during these
| time period and therefore is representative of CPUs in use rather
| than CPUs purchased.
|
| Since this is a benchmarking site, enthusiasts are probably
| overrepresented. I'm positive that there are more Intel CPUs
| being used in desktops than AMD.
|
| [0] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html
| mikewhy wrote:
| Aye, and while still not the whole picture, the Steam Hardware
| Survey[1] reports AMD as down from August.
|
| [1]: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
| gruez wrote:
| There's also a massive surge of simplified chinese users in
| the same month, along with a small increase in previous gen
| GPUs[1], so I suspect it has more to do with more older
| builds being sampled than intel gaining marketshare.
|
| [1] If you check gpu market share for windows, the usage
| share for many nvidia 10xx, 16xx, 20xx series gpus went up.
| The first two are out of production years ago, and the last
| was out of production early/mid last year.
| hnuser123456 wrote:
| Guessing that people who want AMD are waiting for the 5000s
| to become more available and not buying as many 3000s, and/or
| "giving up" and buying Intel.
| hollerith wrote:
| The headline is so misleading that I'm flagging the submission.
| pcdoodle wrote:
| Yeah, passmark users have more AMD share would be a better
| title.
| yskchu wrote:
| Yeah agreed; also, how often do people do benchmarks?
|
| Me personally, I only bench around when the build is finished
| and not much after that; maybe bench again only if there's some
| significant hardware/software change (software change example
| being video driver that improves performance etc)
|
| So, if passmark says "This graph counts the baselines submitted
| to us during these time period", then it probably mostly
| reflect new builds only. Which is still a significant data
| point, showing lots of AMD uptake (by enthusiasts), but not
| what the Techspot headline says/implies.
| Xorlev wrote:
| Totally agree that enthusiasts are overrepresented, but that
| seems like a leading indicator, at least in the performance and
| gaming market (which is a growing portion of the overall
| desktop market).
| ghaff wrote:
| Perhaps a bigger share of a declining market. IDC forecast
| that 2020 desktop sales would be down about 17% while
| notebook sales rose about 26%. While many companies still use
| Wintel PCs for employees who are (normally) always at their
| desks, many others increasingly have standardized on
| notebooks even if not everyone needs one.
| mark-r wrote:
| AMD can't possibly overtake Intel until the mass market PC
| makers switch to AMD. Have any done so yet?
| mschuster91 wrote:
| HP and Dell offer AMD laptops and desktops.
| osgovernment wrote:
| AMD is selling processors faster than they can make them.
| 01100011 wrote:
| Faster than TSMC can make them.
|
| I applaud AMD for all they've been doing, but despite it all,
| Intel has the apparent advantage because AMD is bottlenecked on
| TSMC. AMD is competing with themselves, Apple, Nvidia, etc for
| foundry time. That doesn't seem like a good place to be at,
| even if they hold the technology advantage.
|
| I am cautiously predicting Intel will remain the market leader
| indefinitely unless AMD finds a way to remedy the bottleneck.
| caycep wrote:
| yes, I think that is the bear point in the "Intel is doomed"
| analysis. I think at what point would the market/demand be
| financially worthwhile for another company to put up with the
| upfront costs of building a fab to compete w/ Samsung/TSMC?
|
| Also, how many of the Ryzen units (and nVidia) are being
| scooped up by bots?
| neolog wrote:
| > Also, how many of the Ryzen units (and nVidia) are being
| scooped up by bots?
|
| Why does it matter?
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