[HN Gopher] Show HN: AI-powered landing page builder
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Show HN: AI-powered landing page builder
Author : dannypostma
Score : 62 points
Date : 2021-01-03 12:34 UTC (10 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (headlime.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (headlime.com)
| sak5sk wrote:
| There's absolutely no reason that we shouldn't have the
| capability (in the near future) to generate entire websites with
| a click of a button and narrated instructions. This is definitely
| the step in the right direction. Congrats on the progress!
| EGreg wrote:
| I will say what I've said before when this has come up.
|
| For declarative languages, this could be good. This is the
| "centaur" period (human + computer was better vs just a human
| or just a computer) that Garry Kasparov touted, before the
| computer-only part became better. (Chess was much easier to do
| play against itself adversarially though, harder to simulate
| how humans would react to your website so you can't train it
| MCTS style).
|
| BUT...
|
| For imperative languages with side effects, we have a long way
| to go. We would need a completely DIFFERENT model of AI,
| perhaps closer to Cyc than GPT
| whalesalad wrote:
| Is it AI or simply distilled intuition?
| TaupeRanger wrote:
| Really? We're upvoting pure marketing BS now? This is actually
| embarrassing.
| arcturus17 wrote:
| It's just a tech product. What makes it more "pure marketing
| BS" than any other Show HN?
| TaupeRanger wrote:
| I suppose you're right - it's the hyperbolic headline that is
| grinding my gears, because I thought it was going to link to
| an interesting article, perhaps about Artificial Creativity
| or something like that.
| Der_Einzige wrote:
| The only reason I can think for people flagging this is that they
| are afraid for their jobs.
|
| I don't blame them. I work in NLP and fear that sometime in the
| next 20 to 50 years a significant portion of my own work will be
| automated away by increasingly sophisticated transformers models.
| This, combined with the increasingly centralization of the means
| to do effective AI research, leaves me believing that eventually
| I'll have to change fields if I want to keep making a paycheck...
| pmontra wrote:
| You'll be retired in 50 years. 20 year, probably not but I
| think there will be a way to make money for smart people.
| bavell wrote:
| I want to post something cynical and a bit nasty about what I
| think of this AI template builder but instead I'll just leave
| this vague comment...
| robjan wrote:
| Does it also add fake "trusted and used by" sections in the
| generated landing pages?
| marioletto wrote:
| Tell Ai it's now 2021 so it can update the date in the footer:-)
| nickreese wrote:
| Not sure why this got flagged. Surprisingly good product made by
| a solo founder.
| chuckgreenman wrote:
| No offense, but if you can't design and write a compelling
| landing page for your service that works you don't understand
| your product or customer enough to be in the line of business
| that you're in.
|
| This is the race to the bottom kind of shit that is designed to
| help you crank out no/low effort content that search engines like
| but provide no value to an end user.
| jfk13 wrote:
| So, err... it apparently generates (among other things) fake
| testimonials? No thanks. "Marketing fluff" may be (just about)
| acceptable for a landing page, but this is pure BS.
|
| Is it progress? Perhaps. But in a positive direction? No.
| dannypostma wrote:
| It does not generate testimonials. Where did you get that?
| jfk13 wrote:
| It looked like there's an example/template of one from
| "Judith Black, CEO, Acme Corp" at the bottom of the page.
| Together with the "fun fact" that "All copy on this website
| was generated using Headlime", that was certainly the
| impression it gave me. Perhaps I misunderstood?
| depomoty wrote:
| It's generating a template for you to fill your own
| testimonials. Acme corp is a company placeholder all over
| the Internet
| apabepa wrote:
| I see this as a part of the trend towards a bleak future of auto
| generated low quality generic content flooding the web. It
| already feels like it has been going on for a long time even
| though it has not been fully AI-driven before. This is a natural
| evolution of the direction things are going towards. I believe
| that non-algorithmic curation and aggregation will become even
| more important services that people will be willing to pay for.
| holstvoogd wrote:
| Yeah, even human written content is often mostly written for
| bots and AI atm. Endless pages of drivel to please the SEO
| 'experts' :(
| crownvic wrote:
| Interesting product, but the examples are weak. I expect AI to
| personalize landing pages for every visitor in the future.
| Still, right now, I don't trust it enough to touch my bottom
| line.
| dvfjsdhgfv wrote:
| Yeah, I feel we should go in exactly the opposite direction.
| keiferski wrote:
| Ironically we may find ourselves back at the curation search
| engine model, a la the original Yahoo.
| deltron3030 wrote:
| >It already feels like it has been going on for a long time
| even though it has not been fully AI-driven before.
|
| That's because seo tools have already turned content creators
| into robots.
| gitgud wrote:
| I disagree with this perspective as it implies gate-keeping.
| Making websites easier to create is a _good thing_. If a tool
| like this gets more content onto the web then that 's a good
| thing IMHO.
|
| Besides, search engines already deal with a deluge of
| duplicated and low-quality websites...
| pmontra wrote:
| upstream connect error or disconnect/reset before headers. reset
| reason: connection termination
| dannypostma wrote:
| HN hug of death. Scaling the servers right now.
| logifail wrote:
| I read as far as
|
| > "Explain your product in just twenty words and we'll generate
| appropriate design templates instantly."
|
| before the {{Citation needed}} alarm went off.
|
| Would anyone care to explain what the word "appropriate" is
| supposed to mean in that sentence?
| refactor_master wrote:
| The writing part is impressive. The other things? I thought we
| had a bajillion templates already. The hardest part might be
| picking something that works well for your users, and not
| randomly picking a design. Unless, of course, those two choices
| are one and the same.
| gtsop wrote:
| The title implies the AI has some creative capability to design
| and code. What I actually see there is a machine learning program
| like any other, learning to do a boring repetitive task we've
| done a million times in the past (thus providing the training
| data)... A landing page.
| rexreed wrote:
| I still have no idea how folks can get access to GPT-3 to do
| things like this on any sort of scale given the current pay-per-
| use model. Can someone share how to get programmatic access to
| Gpt-3 without using a hack like AI dungeon?
| spark3k wrote:
| Looks awesome. Machine and human working together. Inevitable
| anyway. Machine provides the bulk and human tweaks and polishes.
| mhh__ wrote:
| I'll be impressed when the AI can generate a readable optimizing
| compiler backend from a specification, but currently it's not
| really design is it?
| dannypostma wrote:
| I've been obsessed with GPT-3 since I got access in July this
| year. I decided to see how far it could go and use it to build a
| landing page builder with it. A builder that can write, design
| and code your landing page for you.
|
| And honestly, I'm blown away what's possible with it. We're going
| to see some really interesting developments using this technology
| in the coming years.
| darepublic wrote:
| Well done OP, this looks pretty damn intriguing. I'm just
| curious, was the headline site really generated by the AI? Is
| this already in use by 800+ companies? Anyway I will be giving
| this a try
| dannypostma wrote:
| Thanks! Yep, all copy is generated with the AI. The AI
| Landing Page landing page (lol) was also coded and designed
| by Headlime. 800+ companies are no lie. Version 1 of the tool
| did really well already before I added the AI. DM me on
| Twitter if you need some proof :) @dannypostmaa
| throwaway7281 wrote:
| Always remember: Don't get high on your own supply.
| dannypostma wrote:
| Too late...
| rexreed wrote:
| Can you explain to simple peons like us how you got access to
| GPT-3 and how we can too?
| sgeisler wrote:
| I mean, sure, if all you need is some marketing fluff I can see
| how this might work. Most landing pages seem to actively try to
| keep me from finding out what I need to know about the product or
| service (specs, prices, features, ...). But is this really the
| future? I hope not.
|
| Don't get me wrong, AI text processing is awesome. But I'd rather
| see it work for instead of against me. I'd love to see a tool
| that can provide me with executive summaries of longer texts or
| just to optimize information density (which would otherwise take
| the writer more time he might not be willing to spare).
| dannypostma wrote:
| For my side, it's working for me, not against me. I have to
| create loads of landing pages for my products. Using my own
| tool speeds up this process insanely, so I can focus on
| building features again.
| rorykoehler wrote:
| That's very cool however I found it a bit strange that the site
| you build in the demo is different to the landing page hosting
| the demo. The subliminal messaging is that it's not good enough
| for prime time which you may want to avoid?
| dannypostma wrote:
| For demo purposes I gotta go quickly through the generating
| part. Plus, the page has to fit with the overall design and
| components already in use.
| rorykoehler wrote:
| All these details are irrelevant for the end user. First
| impressions and all that.
| prepend wrote:
| Why is this a monthly fee? I was trying to find how much it would
| cost to just generate me a landing page but I could only see how
| to host it. So this seems odd unless I just want to generate a
| ton of these.
|
| It smells fishy to me as if it actually worked it would be an
| easy "take your money, here's your website" function.
| dannypostma wrote:
| The landing page builder is part of our bigger product, mostly
| used by agencies who create more of them on a monthly basis.
| Feel 100% free to cancel your subscription after finishing your
| landing page. You can do it with one click of a button in your
| profile :)
| spark3k wrote:
| I don't think there's any forum more resistant to seeing the
| inevitable application of technology than this one.
| exoji2e wrote:
| Coding, aka, injecting content into templates.
| reidjs wrote:
| AI, formerly known as clever algorithms, have been able to write
| since ElizaBot, design since Photoshop filters, and code since
| the first compiler. What it can't do well without human
| intervention is make our lives easier by making money, automating
| tasks, etc.
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