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Translate Lang1 Lang2 [ENGLISH ] Regarding Community Content Archiving 29 REPLIES 29 SOLVED Back to AutoCAD Customization Category Back to Topic Listing Reply Topic Options * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Mark Topic as New * Mark Topic as Read * * Float this Topic for Current User * Bookmark * Subscribe * * Printer Friendly Page * Back to Topic Listing * Previous * Next * << Previous * + 1 + 2 * Next >> Message 1 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown 23486 Views, 29 Replies 12-06-2024 02:44 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-06-2024 02:44 PM Regarding Community Content Archiving Re: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/community-announcements/ community-content-archiving-announcement-and-... This thread is closed for comment, so I'm posting here. The title says archiving but the posts indicate >>> Unfortunately, we cannot keep the content , which in my book is DELETING. I'm only interested in code groups but these comments also apply to the regular customising and operational Forums, Deleting everything that was originated prior to 10 years ago will destroy a wealth of information that is still viable. This information has not been transferred to the "Help" files and will no longer be searchable, the bookmarked links (published and personal) will no longer be available and the peers who provided this information probably won't be available ( or not inclined ) to reproduce the information when it is required. These groups are peer to peer and the answers to peoples questions and solutions to problems is typically provided by users of the products, not by the builders of the products. I consider this action to be an insult to the efforts of the people who have, at their own expense, graciously helped other users over the years. If those individuals are still around, I thank you for your efforts and generosity. I sure hope AutoDesk are not relying on AI to provide the information currently being destroyed. The expression "Going to hell in a handbasket" comes to mind. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Solved! Go to Solution. Solved by daniel_cadext. Go to Solution. Solved by _gile. Go to Solution. Solved by ActivistInvestor. Go to Solution. Solved by kerry_w_brown. Go to Solution. Solved by Anton_Huizinga. Go to Solution. Solved by ActivistInvestor. Go to Solution. Solved by daniel_cadext. Go to Solution. Solved by norman.yuan. Go to Solution. Report 6 Likes Reply * Back to Topic Listing * Previous * Next 29 REPLIES 29 Message 2 of 30 norman.yuan Mentor norman.yuan in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-06-2024 04:06 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-06-2024 04:06 PM Not sure what will happen, but if the discussions in this forum started older than 10 years were to be no longer available, it would be really bad. If that really happens, I'd suggest those who post/ learn frequently in this forum move to other alternatives, such as https://www.theswamp.org/ and stop responding questions here, knowing your efforts will be gone/thrown away! They should have something equivalent or better available and is embraced by users before cutting existing useful stuff off. Norman Yuan Drive CAD With Code EESignature Report 12 Likes Reply Message 3 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-08-2024 12:56 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-08-2024 12:56 PM @Tiana_Y wrote: The team has thoroughly reviewed the data and established criteria for content that is still helpful to our customers. We will repurpose or recreate that content before it is archived. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, the 10 years of content that are being deleted do hold some excellent content for the 'help' files. There is enough content there from Albert and Tony alone to fill a book. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 2 Likes Reply Message 4 of 30 daniel_cadext Advisor daniel_cadext in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-08-2024 03:57 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-08-2024 03:57 PM It's insanity! At least from a developer perspective. There are still code samples from 2005 that are still very relevant today. Especially in the ARX forums, back in the early days Autodesk used to participate in the forums and there's quit a lot of gems. Going forward, I will not be posting code samples here, only links to TheSwamp, or GitHub. Python for AutoCAD, Python wrappers for ARX https://github.com/ CEXT-Dan/PyRx Report 1 Like Reply Message 5 of 30 ActivistInvestor Advisor ActivistInvestor in reply to: daniel_cadext 12-08-2024 04:41 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-08-2024 04:41 PM I've already switched to posting code on GitHub instead of/in addition to posting it here, for that and other reasons I'd rather not discuss here. The thing that has me scratching my head, is the criteria that any thread started 10+ years ago is to be [S:archived:S] deleted, regardless of how recently it was updated or how relevant its contents are. The suggestion that 'the team' is going to go through that much old content and identify what's worth keeping is pure fiction, as if we couldn't figure out how much work by qualified people would be needed to do that. It would seem to appear that legacy products (namedly AutoCAD) is what's being targeted, as there's not very much 10-year-old content for products/services being pushed/promoted today. The problem is that much of what Autodesk would like you to replace its legacy products with, is already on the verge of becoming obsolete itself. It's not just Autodesk whose very existence is threatened by the rise of AI and AGI. Most vendors of 'traditional' software applications are being regarded as endangered species. For Autodesk and its competitors, the emergence of things like DeepMind's Genie2 and WorldLabs' Spatial Intelligence initiative (both of which are being positioned as foundations for end-to-end solutions for all types of design, as well as other things like gaming), will make application software and services as we know them today, totally obsolete. Report 3 Likes Reply Message 6 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-08-2024 08:32 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-08-2024 08:32 PM The next 5-10 years will be really interesting times. AI , AGI and recent releases of NPU's will shift parts of the workload. The reference to DeepMind ( and AlphaGo ) reminds me of the ripples in the GO community 10 years ago when a 'computer' had wins over professional players. It improved since then and it's successors are better. >>> Since June 21st, 2017, til March 16th, 2018, DeepZenGo has played 3407 games against pros from the Nihon Kiin. In those games, it managed to win 3228 games and lose 119 games, for a 96.5% winrate. Anyone who has the fortune enough to have the time to play Go/Weiqi/ Baduk will appreciate how special this is. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 0 Likes Reply Message 7 of 30 Anton_Huizinga Advocate Anton_Huizinga in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-09-2024 11:33 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 11:33 AM If it is about shortage of disc space, I think there is much more to be gained if the installation files are cleaned up instead of deleting valuable forum posts. Report 0 Likes Reply Message 8 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-09-2024 11:44 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 11:44 AM If space is a problem I'm sure we could find a dozen ssd's laying around. Putting each group on it's own ssd would probably speed the site up too. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 1 Like Reply Message 9 of 30 ActivistInvestor Advisor ActivistInvestor in reply to: Anton_Huizinga 12-09-2024 11:55 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 11:55 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------- @Anton_Huizinga wrote: If it is about shortage of disc space, I think there is much more to be gained if the installation files are cleaned up instead of deleting valuable forum posts. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Let me assure you that this is not about a shortage of disk space. Autodesk has plenty of disk space. There may be legitimate issues relating to the performance of searches and what have you that might be alleviated by reducing the amount of content that needs to be searched, but that could be addressed in other ways beside purging 'old' content. Report 3 Likes Reply Message 10 of 30 daniel_cadext Advisor daniel_cadext in reply to: ActivistInvestor 12-09-2024 03:25 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 03:25 PM "Let me assure you that this is not about a shortage of disk space" Did the terms of service change ten years ago? Is it about to change? Or is there a Statute of limitations? Or Andrew just doesn't like us? Autodesk could at least iterate the old posts in the "AutoCAD Customization Forum" and look for code tags, save those. Python for AutoCAD, Python wrappers for ARX https://github.com/ CEXT-Dan/PyRx Report 0 Likes Reply Message 11 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: daniel_cadext 12-09-2024 04:35 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 04:35 PM Bummer: I have been going through the older posts to see what's worth saving . . . The first one I "archived" was from Albert on 2005-05-28 Today the oldest post available for viewing is dated 2014-12-12 09:45 AM So much for giving us a chance to save some of the info personally. I'm going out to my veggie garden to archive some bugs. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 0 Likes Reply Message 12 of 30 daniel_cadext Advisor daniel_cadext in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-09-2024 05:32 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 05:32 PM disaster, now most of the google search results are invalid. I've seen some bonehead cooperate moves, this is a doozy lol Python for AutoCAD, Python wrappers for ARX https://github.com/ CEXT-Dan/PyRx Report 3 Likes Reply Message 13 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-09-2024 06:40 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 06:40 PM [tongue-in-cheek] we're just like little mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed compost. [/tongue-in-cheek] // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 0 Likes Reply Message 14 of 30 ActivistInvestor Advisor ActivistInvestor in reply to: daniel_cadext 12-09-2024 08:42 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-09-2024 08:42 PM ----------------------------------------------------------------- @daniel_cadext wrote: disaster, now most of the google search results are invalid. I've seen some bonehead cooperate moves, this is a doozy lol ----------------------------------------------------------------- In this reply in the announcement thread that has been locked, I posted a link to a thread that served as an example of a thread that was started > 10 years ago, that had significant updates (by @norman.yuan) that he contributed within the past month. That thread has been deleted. Can you imagine that? @norman.yuan put a significant effort into that contribution less than a month ago, and Autodesk just deleted it . I also just confirmed that vast amounts of similar contributions made recently in threads that were started > 10 years ago, and which is without a doubt, immensely helpful to customers and still highly-relevant today, has been wiped out. When a business displays such blatant disrespect and utter disregard for those who consistently go above and beyond to support their customers, it leaves little room for doubt about their true priorities. Report 11 Likes Reply Message 15 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-10-2024 03:16 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-10-2024 03:16 AM Thanks for the moral support guys ! It's comforting to know I'm not the only one astounded by this debacle. // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 6 Likes Reply Message 16 of 30 Anton_Huizinga Advocate Anton_Huizinga in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-10-2024 03:28 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-10-2024 03:28 AM You have my vote if you want to start a petition! Report 0 Likes Reply Message 17 of 30 kerry_w_brown Advisor kerry_w_brown in reply to: Anton_Huizinga 12-10-2024 03:38 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-10-2024 03:38 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------- @Anton_Huizinga wrote: You have my vote if you want to start a petition! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the offer Anton, but I think it would be a waste of energy, just as this thread has been a waste of bandwidth. The primary benefit, seemingly, has just been to relieve a little emotional pressure. @Mrs Google: Emotional pressure, also known as emotional stress, is a negative response to intense emotions like fear, anger, sadness, or frustration. It can become unhealthy when it interferes with your ability to do what you need to do or want. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, // Called Kerry in my other life. Everything will work just as you expect it to, unless your expectations are incorrect. Sometimes the question is more important than the answer. class keyThumper : Lazy; another Swamper Report 0 Likes Reply Message 18 of 30 _gile Mentor _gile in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-10-2024 04:32 AM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-10-2024 04:32 AM Same astoundness in the French General Dicussions forum. Gilles Chanteau Programmation AutoCAD LISP/.NET GileCAD GitHub [autodesk-exper] Report 2 Likes Reply Message 19 of 30 DiningPhilosopher Collaborator DiningPhilosopher in reply to: _gile 12-16-2024 04:52 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-16-2024 04:52 PM Just so everyone knows (and doesn't bother wasting their time trying to find them), all of the posts that I made under this account have been deleted. Most of those posts are as relevant today as they were the day they were posted. Report 6 Likes Reply Message 20 of 30 daniel_cadext Advisor daniel_cadext in reply to: kerry_w_brown 12-16-2024 11:41 PM * Mark as New * Bookmark * Subscribe * Mute * * Subscribe to RSS Feed * * Permalink * Print * * Report 12-16-2024 11:41 PM I have to congratulate the person at Autodesk who came up with this idea. This is without a doubt, the most monumental act of stupidity ever in the company as you have single-handedly crippled the developer community. In no universe could this ever be considered a good idea. Imagine a civilization deleting their history. What you have done is virtually equivalent to this. I cannot imagine how you possibly came up with any benefit this could have for anyone. I cannot even fathom that you would conjure this idea in your mind and, after thorough contemplation, that others would agree to doing this. Python for AutoCAD, Python wrappers for ARX https://github.com/ CEXT-Dan/PyRx Report 7 Likes Reply [icon_anony] [ ] Post Reply [icon_anony] Preview Exit Preview [Preview] [ ] never-displayed You must be signed in to add attachments never-displayed Additional options Associated Products [ ] You do not have permission to remove this product association. 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