https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2023/02/some-future-now-css/ [ ] * * About * Newest post * All posts * Search * Privacy * Contact/RSS Some of the future is now for CSS Intrigued by news from the WebKit team, I adopt styling that could work natively in your browser in the near future. 2023-02-13 Reading time: 5:06 * 1,145 words As usual, my timing was less than stellar. No sooner had I finished revamping this site's styling setup with the sass package than I learned that truly native CSS nesting -- as opposed to the non-native version which had long compelled my use of Sass in the first place -- might be arriving sooner than I'd thought likely. In essence: "the future is now" may not be accurate where CSS nesting is concerned; but "some of the future is now" likely either is, or will be, before too long. Thus, I spent a good part of this past weekend getting comfortable with how native CSS nesting will work. In the process, I also learned a few interesting (and occasionally annoying) facts about fully native CSS, both as it exists now and as it may soon exist. Word from the WebKit team A few days ago, a post on the WebKit blog urged web developers to give CSS nesting a try on Safari Technology Preview 162. The post, written by long-time CSS guru Jen Simmons of the Apple/WebKit team, explained that the feature's availability within both STP162 and Google Chrome 112+ provided a perfect opportunity to perform such tests. (By the way: at this writing, the folks at Firefox would seem, based on this bug report, to be nowhere near ready to add CSS nesting; indeed, the feature doesn't even appear on Mozilla's Specification Positions page.) Update, 2023-07-15: It now appears Firefox will soon add native CSS nesting. This capability will be available behind a flag in Firefox 115 and Firefox 116, and available by default in Firefox 117, to be released 2023-08-29. To provide some perspective, here's a brief example of how nesting in Sass makes things easier. Instead of this in vanilla CSS: body { color: black; background-color: white; } @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) { body { color: white; background-color: black; } } . . . Sass lets you write it this way: body { color: black; background-color: white; @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) { color: white; background-color: black; } } . . . and then produces the earlier CSS when you run it through Sass. When you're editing CSS elements and classes with many rules, especially if many of those rules change depending on the results of media queries like the one shown here, nesting enables you to do a lot less typing and (if you don't go overboard with it) makes your final code more readable. Nesting in vanilla CSS without the need for tools like Sass and PostCSS is something web developers have long wanted, and which has been the subject of much discussion and debate over the years; but now, perhaps, it's crossing the line from Real Soon Now^(tm) to reality. The two primary reasons why I've mainly used Sass here on this site have been nesting and variables. Although the latter feature, part of CSS custom properties, has received good browser support for years now, CSS nesting was the one biggie still hanging out there. With its seeming approach, Simmons's post made me decide to check it out. However, I decided to implement it in a way that would work in pretty much any current browser: by using PostCSS along with the postcss-nesting plugin, which mirrors how the official CSS nesting specification works. I also took this opportunity to begin using native CSS variables, too. From Sass to (kinda) native For the most part, the transition between my Sass styling and its CSS-Nesting/custom-properties version went okay. I ran into a few rough spots, however. You can't get there from here First of all, I learned that, unlike in Sass, you can't use a variable to declare a media query. In Sass, you can do this: $breakpoint-large: 1024px; h1 { font-size: 3rem; @media screen and (min-width: $breakpoint-large) { font-size: 4rem; } } . . . but you can't do this with CSS variables: :root { --breakpoint-large: 1024px; } /* This media query **won't** work: */ h1 { font-size: 3rem; @media screen and (min-width: var(--breakpoint-large)) { font-size: 4rem; } } Ben Holmes's article explains it well. But, hey, that's what search/ replace is for, so I learned to live with it and do this, instead (same example): /* This media query **will** work: */ h1 { font-size: 3rem; @media screen and (min-width: 1024px) { font-size: 4rem; } } Another thing that brought me up short was the fact that the CSS nesting spec doesn't allow concatenating selectors, although Sass and some other nesting-savvy add-ons do. Here's a Sass example of what I mean: .homepage { font-family: sans-serif; &Leftside { text-align: right; font-size: 2rem; } } . . . which Sass would compile to: /* This is the desired result */ .homepage { font-family: sans-serif; } .homepageLeftside { text-align: right; font-size: 2rem; } But if you try this with the CSS nesting spec, you get: /* This is NOT the desired result, but is what you get from CSS nesting. */ .homepage: { font-family: sans-serif; } Leftside.homepage { text-align: right; font-size: 2rem; } Thus, with CSS nesting, you'd have to do that sort of thing more manually. Fortunately, I didn't have a lot of those to fix. Partial-ly troublesome Yet another temporary snag was that, through using PostCSS from package.json to create the CSS files for Hugo Pipes to use, I had to alter my usual practice of using Sass partials for better organization of my styling. After getting some help with this from Joe Mooring on the Hugo Discourse forum, I renamed each partial so that Hugo Pipes would slurp them up in the right order: . <-- The Hugo project folder +- themes +- newcss +- assets +- cssfrom +- partials +- 001_reset.css +- 002_variables.css +- 003_global.css +- 050_utility.css +- 060_nav.css +- 070_vweights.css +- 080_ffoxobliq.css +- 099_print.css Why cssfrom as that subfolder name in themes/newcss/assets/, by the way? Because the css folder^1 -- i.e., the one my templating tells Hugo Pipes to watch -- would be created and auto-populated during the running of PostCSS from package.json, such as in these scripts: "postcsscli": "postcss themes/newcss/assets/cssfrom --dir themes/newcss/assets/css", "dev:postcss": "npm run postcsscli -- --watch", . . . whereupon Hugo Pipes would be able to snarf it up for the critical CSS to go in the head: {{- $css := "" -}} {{- $css = (resources.Match "css/0*.css") | resources.Concat "critical.css" -}} {{- with $css }} {{- end }} . . . as well as for the "sorta scoped" styling that Hugo includes conditionally throughout the site: {{- range $cssTypes -}} {{- $condition = index . 0 -}} {{- $fileName = index . 1 -}} {{- if eq $condition true -}} {{- $css = resources.Get (print "css/" $fileName ".css") -}} {{- if hugo.IsProduction -}} {{- $css = $css | minify | fingerprint "md5" -}} {{- end -}} {{- end -}} {{- end }} Note: If those lines from package.json have you wondering why I did it this way rather than relying solely on Hugo Pipes' built-in PostCSS capabilities, it's because this approach works ten to fifteen times faster in dev mode and seems to be a lot easier on my old box's CPU. Sharing arrangement So, now, I have two themes for the site: (1.) one with Sass, and (2.) one with CSS variables and PostCSS-enabled CSS nesting. One nice thing about this setup is that, unlike the times when I've had a Sass theme and a Tailwind CSS theme, I don't need two completely different sets of layouts and Hugo partials to work with each theme. Rather, the two themes can share the same layouts and nearly^2 all the same partials, because these template files' final classes and rules are the same. Indeed, the only drawback to the setup is that the scripts part of package.json has grown quite a bit, since I have to provide for both Sass and PostCSS. Of course, I assume the CSS nesting specification -- whatever its sort-of-final form will take -- will get largely universal browser support someday, at which point things could get a lot simpler. Until then, though, this setup will suffice. Update later in the day: After receiving some additional information from Jen Simmons via Mastodon, I revised/corrected links and examples in this posts. Thanks, Jen! --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. I include themes/newcss/assets/css in .gitIgnore, since this folder and its contents get built every time I run Hugo. -[?] 2. Actually, there are three Hugo partials unique to each theme. Two, excerpted above, are for the slightly different code that pulls in the styling; and one is for the footer so I can specify, on the "About" page, whether the site is using Sass or PostCSS. -[?] Latest commit (f98fd692) for page file: 2023-10-31 at 9:54:24 AM CDT. Page history Reply via email "Reply via email" button and its contained email link hidden in an attempt to limit spambots' access. Please activate JavaScript to see the button. View comments Commenting feature requires activation of JavaScript. 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