https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-messiah-co-op/news/a-call-to-dark-messiah-arms Hello guest register or sign in [ ]Search Mod DB [ ][ ] [ ] [GO] or with: A Call to Arms news - Dark Messiah: Co-op mod for Dark Messiah of Might and Magic * HOME * Today * Week * Month * games + popular + latest + indies + publishing + add game * mods + popular + latest + add mod * addons + popular + latest + upload * files + popular + latest + upload * videos + images + audio * articles + reviews + headlines + blogs + post article * engines + popular + latest + add engine * developers + popular + latest + add dev * groups + popular + latest + add group * forums * jobs + post job Dark Messiah: Co-op Dark Messiah of Might and Magic mod | TBD * summary * articles * files * videos * images Experience the epic story of Sareth, destined to become the Dark Messiah but this time with the help of your friends. Slay monsters, fight over Leanna or Xana, but most importantly choose to fulfill or reject your destiny. Buckle up for a game experience better than you would've thought alone. Persistent skills, campaign saves, new spells, and new features! Once you've done that, keep the party going with custom levels. Post news Report RSS A Call to Arms It's been a while but we're back and certainly not empty handed. RTX toolkit release, Ubisoft's full blessing, and a rally to join the team? Oh my! Posted by KingDavidW on Aug 24th, 2023 Hello everyone, it's been a long time since I've written an update but rest assured we haven't been sitting around doing nothing. We had our 4 year anniversary of working on the mod a few months back, but we didn't really get to celebrate it. Since it's our birthday and we can party when we want to, why not release an RTX toolkit? On top of that, let's and while we are late to celebrate it, we want to do so by releasing a little toolkit for people to remaster Dark Messiah with RTX! Scroll through and let's shine a light on it! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ubisoft News Let's kick it off with one of the biggest things to happen, even though at this point it's not really NEW because I've been mentioning it in the discord. In the last article I said that Ubisoft has given us legal approval pending some guidelines about what we can release and how to deliver it. Well, as of May, we have been given a completely blank check to do whatever we see fit with this mod and the development of the SDK! To quote Ubisoft, they "don't want to impose any sort of restrictions so that the community can really appreciate the full value of the work that's being put in here." This is really big news! We have been extremely cautious and worried about how much we'd be able to release and what we can make open source, but thanks to our approach and the support of this incredible community, we have their faith. I really want to emphasize that second part, because I always say we wouldn't have a leg to stand on if it wasn't for the love of this community, and together we can really do anything. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Philosophy Going Forward One of the biggest realizations I've had over the years is that there are a LOT of people that not only want Dark Messiah to have more mods, but are interested in modding themselves. Every time I talk about the SDK there's always a group of people that would come in and ask when it's getting released, or what they can do with it, Now that we have that green light, I want to help facilitate this as fast as possible, so throughout the future we'll be trying our best to drop some different mod tools that hopefully anyone can use to make a mod for Dark Messiah, rather than wait for the full SDK to be out. While I am still very much invested in the co-op mod, I want to use my understanding and expertise within the game's reversed code to help others now. So far I'm thinking the process will go something like this: 1. Focus on one area of the SDK that people are most interested in 2. Isolated that one area as much as possible from the rest of the SDK components 3. Simplify it so minimal programming experience is needed 4. Release the new isolated module and get feedback from modders 5. Incorporate feedback, repeat with changes, until finally moving to next part of the SDK As an introduction to this idea, I'm releasing the toolkit for the RTX Remix build so that others can make and dedicate themselves to a true RTX mod of Dark Messiah. If they encounter any issues or need any patches added, I would keep my doors open and do everything I can to help ensure their success. This wouldn't just be the RTX mod though of course, anyone out there who wants to make things should feel free to let me know! So with that segue, allow me to introduce our Dark Messiah RTX Toolkit! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dark Messiah of RTX In between waiting for Ubisoft's response and some other work on the Co-op mod, Nvidia released their Portal RTX mod and subsequent RTX Remix open-source modules, and it got me thinking: How cool would Dark Messiah look with ray traced lighting? Unfortunately, the RTX Remix modules required the game to run in DX7, which Dark Messiah would always crash with. So I did what any other sane individual would do: got the game working with DX7! That obsession extends even further as a bunch of fixes and modifications were added to give the RTX modules a little more to work with, such as light rendering hacks and culling fixes. This entire process is very technical and I'll be putting it up on the Knockout thread EVENTUALLY, but know it took about 5 months to get everything in a decent state. [4190-dbd0a95d-b939-494f-af91-077b9][4190-32d0f5b9-1fa9-4] [4190-83178f1c-8e3f-4][4190-5d14cc4c-f58b-4] [4190-645ebcab-5d5f-46a7-95d4-07cd3][4190-63d9e57f-f007-4] Feature-wise the toolkit is very clear, but this is not a full mod mind you, just a kit to help people make their own RTX mod. The last thing that needs to be added is a bunch of texture remakes to help it blend better with the RTX Remix rendering, and for that you would have to create things in the RTX remix main toolset. On top of that, you may want to tweak the RTX configuration settings to be better for the game. That's where you humble modders come in though! If you're interested in messing around with this, you can download it by clicking the button below and going to our wiki! There's information about how to download, how to install, and more. We'll also be updating it with even more information to make it easier to understand every step of the RTX toolkit, so lookout for that! [logo] Click me to get the mod! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Working With the Community Now let's get into the co-op mod, since the call to arms isn't just for all the modders out there who want to work on Dark Messiah RTX. We want to expand the team here, and we want to do it in a way that really captures the spirit of how we've been developing this mod and communicating with the community. So, while we are looking for specific roles to be filled, we are open to everyone at any skill level. Whether you love to make models or love to play the game, we want you. Whether you want to go level by level and give us insight on what encounters and areas might be problematic for co-op, or you want to make a level or write a story, we want you. As a few examples, take a look at some of the highlighted roles that are below: * 3D Modellers * Character Artists * Mappers * Scripters * Playtesters I'll stress again that we could not have gotten this far without the community so it only makes sense that we, together, channel the love that Arkane put into their game, with the love we have just playing it. If you're interested, click this beautiful icon to be taken to our application page where we can get to know you a little bit. [4190-a07486de-fb81-4] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Developer Diary I haven't done a developer diary in some time, but seeing as this is a large-ish update, I've put up a little video giving more insight on our philosophies going forward and some ideas for what we would be doing. You can watch that over here: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Closing Remarks As always, feel free to follow any of our socials and drop a message if you have any questions or want to talk. While I have been increasingly busy with things, I have been dedicating time to answering people. Plus, it's a good time now more than ever to get to know the community, you may be working with them in the future! A very special thanks as well to the people in the RTX Showcase discord, as well as Mark (The NVIDIA God Tier Engineer) who helped me get a handle on all the RTX capabilities and pitfalls! Discord: Discord.gg YouTube: Youtube.com Twitter: Twitter.com Post comment Comments zelda414 zelda414 Aug 24 2023 actually insane progress, just checked on this mod literally yesterday so i was super surprised to see this today! Reply Good karma Bad karma+5 votes KingDavidW Author KingDavidW Aug 25 2023 Happy to give you a good surprise then! Hilariously this article would've been out yesterday if youtube didn't copyright strike my dev diary hah Reply Good karma+6 votes INtense! Staff INtense! Aug 27 2023 Awesome work - really love what you are doing! Reply Good karma+1 vote KingDavidW Author KingDavidW Aug 27 2023 Thanks for the compliment and thanks for featuring us! The job ain't done yet so hopefully we can keep that love going Reply Good karma+1 vote venture_ghost venture_ghost Aug 27 2023 rtx? what? where's the co-op mod? Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote KingDavidW Author KingDavidW Aug 27 2023 We are not only developing the co-op mod but a full SDK for the game. That includes allowing people to make mods that otherwise require reverse engineering, like this. The architectures of our approach also allows each mod to work together, so you can have RTX CO-OP as well. Reply Good karma+2 votes MrNighty MrNighty 5hours ago Isn't RTX Remix compatible with DX 8 and 9 or did I miss something? Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote KingDavidW Author KingDavidW 4hours ago RTX requires a fixed function pipeline, which basically means that when a graphical texture is being processed, the processing happens linearly. DirectX 9 does have that type of capability sometimes, but the source engine uses shaders which are basically the opposite of fixed function. You have data from the game passing through and affecting the outputted texture in a way. Actually, all source engine RTX releases on steam currently use DirectX 7 for safety, because DirectX 8 can still have some shaders. The RTX config also changes the shader model so that shuts down any residual effects. For Dark Messiah, these features were all but gutted. If you even tried to launch the game natively with the launch parameters at that DirectX level, the game will immediately crash. That's because shaders there didn't have a fallback or fixed function equivalent, so they would access bad memory or not initialize properly, going back to bad memory. With this patch, it adds a few fallbacks by basically registering functions that pass the texture as is without processing, which allows RTX to process it using the lighting they are calculating. There are additional patches to help RTX work, such as visibility patches and lighting enforcement, as I mentioned in the article In any case, thanks to this patch, you can now run this game at those pipelines! Hope I made sense with the explanation. Reply Good karma+1 vote MrNighty MrNighty 4hours ago Thanks! Appreciate the explanation! Reply Good karma Bad karma+1 vote Post a comment Your comment will be anonymous unless you join the community. 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