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Log in or sign up in seconds.| * English [ ][] [ ]limit my search to r/Save3rdPartyApps use the following search parameters to narrow your results: subreddit:subreddit find submissions in "subreddit" author:username find submissions by "username" site:example.com find submissions from "example.com" url:text search for "text" in url selftext:text search for "text" in self post contents self:yes (or self:no) include (or exclude) self posts nsfw:yes (or nsfw:no) include (or exclude) results marked as NSFW e.g. subreddit:aww site:imgur.com dog see the search faq for details. advanced search: by author, subreddit... this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2023 713 points (98% upvoted) shortlink: [https://redd.it/145b] [ ][ ] [ ]remember mereset password login Submit a new link Submit a new text post Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. get reddit premium Save3rdPartyApps joinleave50,824 readers 3,672 users here now For moderators, see also: /r/ModCoord For moderators and researchers, see also: /r/RedditAPIAdvocacy a community for 7 days MODERATORS * message the mods discussions in r/Save3rdPartyApps <> X 9449 * 392 comments [NEraofTC] I made a bingo card for the Spez AMA! 712 * 253 comments CEO spez AMA Overview 209 * 28 comments [NXpXDU_t] The recent AMA summed up in one picture 534 * 2 comments Over 90% of you voted to join the API blackout, so starting this Monday, June 12, r/TheGoodPlace is going private. 157 * 6 comments The blackout needs to be indefinite until Reddit decides to change. They will weather the storm for 48 hours. 345 * 5 comments r/funfacts has gone private 98 * 23 comments That was one of the worst AMAs I've seen. It seems some people were waiting for this to make a decision and are already going dark indefinitely. I hope that continues 154 * 14 comments [_YMbawj-] Totally not paid-for reviews 72 * 23 comments [z0wZi-_S] Heres what I've got so far for the spez bingo, tell me if I'm wrong or missed anything 459 * 4 comments r/assholedesign is also joining the blackout aswell. Welcome to Reddit, the front page of the internet. Become a Redditor and join one of thousands of communities. x 712 713 714 CEO spez AMA Overview (self.Save3rdPartyApps) submitted 5 hours ago * by Chariotwheel[b9ks3a5k7j][Vibing_48] [kqr00h8b7q][gold_48][klvxk1wggf]2 5 and a half years ago EA held an AMA so disastrous that it was unreadable as downvotes pummelling the answering producers and directors to the ground. Back then I made an overview for r/Games. Due to the high interest and high chance of being a shit show of similar or possibly greater proportion, here's an easily readable overview for the spez AMA. I will edit as it goes on. Introduction https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/ Question Hi spez, I'm wondering, as many third-party apps are shutting down, what the official Reddit app will add to provide the same experience as these third-party apps once did? Reply The are a couple things we are focused on right now: mod tools, specifically an improved mod queue this month and improved mod mail after; and we're doing a bunch of work on feeds and comments to make them more cohesive. After edit: There are a couple things we are focused on right now: mod tools, specifically an improved mod queue this month and improved mod log, mod mail after; and we're doing a bunch of work on feeds and comments to make them more cohesive. We are also going to make the official Reddit apps more accessible. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk2wk4/?context=3 Question What were you thinking with your attempt to discredit Apollo by claiming that Christian threatened and blackmailed you? The confusion was sorted out during Christian's call with Reddit, yet you proceeded to claim that he blackmailed Reddit the following week. To me (and the rest of Reddit) it comes across as a blatant attempt to pit us against him. Reply by spez His "joke" is the least of our issues. His behavior and communications with us has been all over the place--saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call--to the point where I don't know how we could do business with him. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/?context=3 Question Why do you want to restrict NSFW from third party apps? Reply by spez It's a constant fight to keep this content at all. We are going to keep it. But the regulatory environment has gotten much stricter about adult content, and as a result we have to be strict / conservative about where it shows up. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk4pss/?context=3 Question How are the API changes going to affect /r/blind and the blind community at large that use API for their screen readers to make reddit accessible to the visually impaired, because there are no other reasonable options? Reply by spez As I shared in my post, We want everyone to be able to use Reddit. As a result, non-commercial, accessibility-focused apps and tools will continue to have free access. We're working with apps like RedReader and Dystopia and a few others to ensure they can continue to access the Data API. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk5jfh/?context=3 Question Apologies if this has been asked already, but I know there's been a request from the mods of some subreddits to delay the API pricing implementation by 90 days. It seems to me this would help developers and reddit both bridge some of the gaps between 3rd party apps and native reddit apps. This is a pretty big issue for mods and users on many fronts, and is leading to a good deal of pressure for subreddits to join the blackout. As a mod of AmItheAsshole in particular, I don't know if we'll be able to justify keeping our sub open without a clear commitment on a delay. Can you promise that? Reply by spez We're continuing to work with folks who want to work with us. For what it's worth, this includes many of the apps that haven't been taking the spotlight this week. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk647a/?context=3 Question Mr. Huffman, over the past few years reddit has taken care to establish channels between users and administrators which can be used to probe new features on us so you can gauge what the response from the community would be to them. Why have none of these channels been used for this fundamental alteration to site functionality? Reply by spez We started sharing this information in April, and also had Mod Council calls following the post. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk6rf8/?context=3 Question Now that paid third party API access is planned, are there any plans to expand the third party API to include the full API accessible to first party apps, more specifically GraphQL? To clarify on GraphQL, I don't mean full access to execute arbitrary queries, I mean access to execute the same queries that the first party apps call. This would allow for fair competition now that commercial apps will need to pay. Reply by KeyserSosa We're building our mid- and long-term API using Developer Platform which is GQL based and targeted to long term sustainability, for both our own and third party apps. The current deployed GQL APIs are still in the "work in progress" category and wouldn't be suitable for broad consumption. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45yf/?context=3 Followup Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk61bo/ Reply by KeyserSosa Is this confirmation that third party apps will be able to execute/interact with devvit apps and that it will not be restricted/locked to first party apps? We don't know what devvit will eventually look like (as you mentioned, there are features we didn't think about), and how we'd make it secure in a multi-party environment is something we haven't figured out yet. We're working on supporting the large bot ecosystem first (which is also a pretty big use case for these APIs), and planning to build out from there. Our small steps into experience based apps (not just bots) are very early. These "beta" APIs have been out for years now, is there any plans to open these up to third party API clients? Open, yes. Complete, no. The roll out has been slow because there's just a long tail of endpoints to cover, it's effectively "noop" work for the product, and slow burn to get out. We've been hesitant to roll out usage at the very least because it means "lock in" on some endpoints that we're not 100% sure we're happy with before done. [Obviously, can version, etc. but support overhead there is not trivial for something that's work in progress.] Also devvit is forcing us to build a cleaner more sustainable API. We need to see that through before releasing it for fuller use. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkaury/?context=3 Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk26x7/ (very long) Reply by FlyingLaserTurtle Hope you'll accept my answers here. So... The "longstanding rate limit" is actually per client per user.. So aggregating them to a client level and claiming they are 400,000% over the limit is a lie. As we called out in this post, we are changing how we are going to enforce the rate limits to be per client id, so the numbers are accurate from that perspective. Google and Amazon absolutely tell you how to be more effecient and help you in your use of their services.. You (and many others) are right on this one-as I mentioned to you in the call yesterday, I'm sorry I said that. We will work with partners to help identify areas of inefficiency. Since that post, we have already shared initial usage reports from March through early June with partners and are working on providing more detail. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk7rfg/?context=1 Question Why was the timeline of charging for the API so strict, given it would impact so many Apps and Users? - Will this be remediated? cont Reply by spez I acknowledge it was a tight timeline. For what it's worth, we are continuing to chat with many of the developers who still want to work with us. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk8m0z/?context=3 Question The announcement of the API changes felt very abrupt. Your NYTimes interview suggests this was in response to the rise of ChatGPT and other large language model (LLM) products. Were these API changes already in the pipeline prior to ChatGPT or is this really a knee-jerk response to cut off / get a cut of LLM training data? Reply by spez Yes and no. Two things happened at the same time: the LLM explosion put all Reddit data use at the forefront, and our continuing efforts to reign in costs to make Reddit self-sustaining put a spotlight on the tens of millions of dollars it costs us annually to support the 3P apps. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk9izp/?context=3 Question I recently enabled Google's Search Labs feature to gain access to their generative search responses. This means I don't have to click-through to Reddit to see answers anymore, they're summarized directly on the Google Search page. Since Reddit is taking such an aggressive stance towards the use of Reddit data in training large language models (LLMs), are you considering blocking Google or Bing webcrawlers in addition to locking down the API? Reply by KeyserSosa We're in active discussion directly with many of the companies behind the LLMs that have likely used Reddit data for training. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnka347/?context=3 Question Why go forward with a raw pricing model for API usage rather than a profit sharing model similar to what Epic does with Unreal? Or at least a "get x requests free for non commercial use, otherwise talk to us for commercial usage" policy with profit sharing built in? Gives an escape hatch for freeware tool developers, helps cash in on AI, and gives freemium apps an incentive to monetize knowing they don't have to "cover costs" so much as they just need to cut you in on the profits. Feels like it would solve a ton of problems here and incentivize API usage much the way Epic managed to get people to use Unreal Engine. Reply by spez We are following the model of "get x requests for free," which applies to 90% of current API users. Profit sharing is more complex--could be interesting someday--so we're starting off with heavy users sharing the cost. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnka9it/?context=3 Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk426n/ Are there any specific plans from Reddit on how to handle moderators who need access to NSFW content for moderation purposes, potentially sitewide for more coordinated actors? Reply by spez We're re-enabling pushshift for mod use cases in the next week or so. We've got a number of relevant mod tool improvements shipping soon: an improved mod queue this month, and mod log and mod mail coming thereafter. Mis-labeling communities as NSFW (or not) is a violation of our policies. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkbkyl/?context=3 Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk2fh0/ (long) Reply A: We are working with RedReader and Dystopia to make sure they have access and will continue to work with others. We'll review requests to ensure that the app is non-commercial and focused on accessibility needs. Approved apps can use the Data API for free. For our own apps, there is no excuse. We will do better. After Edit (see here): We are working with RedReader and Dystopia to make sure they have access and will continue to work with others. We'll review requests to ensure that the app is non-commercial and focused on accessibility needs. Approved apps can use the Data API for free. For our own apps, there is no excuse. We will do better. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkccq7/?context=3 Question How do you address the concerns of users who feel that Reddit has become increasingly profit-driven and less focused on community engagement? Reply by spez We'll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive. Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkd09c/?context=3 Question Please, reply to developers who contact you. (long) Reply by spez Apologies for the delay. We are responding now. If others have apps they would like to be considered for the paid API tier, please reach out here and select "This is a partnership request." https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkd694/?context=3 Question Just a little suggestion, If you're really sorry, could you please update your comment https://old.reddit.com/r/redditdev/ comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale /jmolrhn/ considering other people maybe will no read this? Reply by FlyingLaserTurtle Done. https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkg8re/?context=3 Question Was the community reaction not foreseeable to Reddit Inc? (cont) Reply by Go_JasonWaterfalls Over the years, we've had the privilege to receive mod input on products, programs, and initiatives that we've rolled out. That won't change. There will be cases when our decisions don't fully align with all of the feedback we receive and often the feedback we receive isn't unanimous. But we won't stop seeking out your input. It does matter, it does change things, and we do respect and value it. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkgh46/?context=3 Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkhdk8/? context=3 (long) Reply by spez We can always do more, and better and faster, but we shared the progress we made over the past 24 months in a few posts (see here , here, and here). That list includes but is not limited to the following features: Mod Notes, User Mod Log, Mobile Removal Reasons, Mod Queue sort improvements, increased the number of removal reasons, Increased the subreddit emoji limit, Technical improvements to how automoderator functions, Improved the functionality of Modmail rate limits, Increased the Ban Notes character limit, Launched Subreddit 2 Subreddit Modmail, Adding removal reasons and content snapshots for content removed by Reddit, Text availability on all post types, Adding visibility into NSFW tagging, abuse removals, and appeals & approvals, Creation of the u/ModSupportBot, Remove as subreddit, Mod Notes & User Mod Log in Modmail, Mod Queue improvements (on desktop), Show Previous Mod Actions, Safety teams started testing a new ban evasion tool, We launched our new Mod Education site, Community Team made updates to our Top Mod Removal process, Automoderator was upgraded to include Subreddit karma, we updated the discoverability settings for subreddits within Community Settings, and Mod Insights. We also shared the set of enhancements coming in the next few months here. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkhdk8/?context=3 Question As a mod of a top 1% sub on Reddit we haven't received any contact from you or the admin team like you claimed. I'm sure you've probably talked with the group of legacy power mods that mod the biggest subs. But for us subs not in the bracket but still quite large with a fair bit of daily volume will there be any reaching out to our teams? Or do we have to do all the leg work to get the info and access to things like pushshift by ourselves? Reply by Go_JasonWaterfalls We have programs in place to support our largest communities and are working on ways to expand these to more communities. Additionally, we're planning more events to meet and connect with moderators as well. To re-enable PushShift, it should be a straightforward process to fill out a short form so we can verify mod status so they can re-enable access. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkhpfq/?context=3 Question Why do you devote staff resources to initiatives such as the Mod Council and the Partnership Communities, without utilizing them ahead of time for feedback on wide-scale and potentially devastating changes such as this one? Where do you personally see the ROI? Reply by Go_JasonWaterfalls See response here. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkiite/?context=3 Question https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk29vb/ (long) Reply by Go_JasonWaterfalls First, thank you for all the years of dedication to Reddit. You're amazing. We will continue to provide support to mods and are, in many cases, expanding our support via community events, partnerships, and enrichment. First off, we will continue to provide support for AMAs. Mod Council, Community Funds, Partner Communities, and community events (like the Mod Summit) will continue to be a core part of the community experience. Some examples: + We are casting a wider net with Community Funds to support more project-types and countries + Mod Summit is expanding to become global in scope with 5000+ moderators, and will include a fully virtual event platform, with investments in accessibility, multiple languages and covering multiple time zones. (You heard it here first: the first Mod Summit of the year is scheduled for November 4, 2023) + Partner Communities just launched a few months ago, and continues to become available to more subreddits and expand its offerings. + We are launching smaller, more intimate events that bring mods together to cover important topics in just a few months. We are invested in rewarding and enriching your experience as a mod, and that will continue to be a core part of what we do. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkjnh4/?context=3 Finish Apparently, we're done. The AMA's done. I can't see anything in Reddit's AMA with CEO Steve Huffman about the API changes to indicate that it's over, but Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells me that it's done. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754780/ reddit-api-updates-changes-news-announcements * 253 comments * share * save * hide * report top 200 commentsshow all 253 sorted by: best topnewcontroversialoldrandomq&alive (beta) [ ] Want to add to the discussion? Post a comment! Create an account [-]AutoModerator[M] [score hidden] 4 hours ago stickied comment (0 children) If you are a moderator and you are interested in automating taking your subreddit private, a bot has been created for this purpose. Please see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/142rzna/ a_bot_to_make_your_subreddit_private/ I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]TheToastyNeko 311 points312 points313 points 4 hours ago* [Illuminati] (24 children) Best part is u/iamthatis replying to the joke one. Edit: please don't buy awards, we want reddit to go moneyless, but thanks! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 113 points114 points115 points 3 hours ago (10 children) Interesting: someone commented to stop buying awards. that comment was removed by a mod. hmmm * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Hindu_Wardrobe 48 points49 points50 points 3 hours ago (8 children) i wonder how many of the awards are astroturfed * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Winertia 30 points31 points32 points 3 hours ago (0 children) All of the positive ones for sure. Certainly not the "stonks down" ones though lmao * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ChunkMcHorkle 14 points15 points16 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Power mods and admins get freebies, they don't have to buy them. So probably all. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 21 points22 points23 points 3 hours ago (5 children) Same thing with his Karma: The Wayback Machine shows he had 1,085,764 Karma yesterday; today: 1,093,098 even though all his replies in the AMA are far in the negative * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]sometimesitsandme 23 points24 points25 points 3 hours ago (2 children) I was playing a little game refreshing his profile. Downvotes climbing on all comments, karma still continually climbing...Nothing strange there lol * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 15 points16 points17 points 3 hours ago (1 child) That's normal behaviour though, people also watched that at the EA AMA. There is a cap on how much karma you can actually lose in your profile from negative downvotes, but none on positive ones. Meaning, at some point your heavily downvoted comment nets you positive karma again when people still upvote, because the cap stays where it is. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Hindu_Wardrobe 14 points15 points16 points 3 hours ago (0 children) ehhhhh vote fuzzying has been a thing since forever so that i am not too sussy of (and ultimately i don't give a shit about karma, especially the ceo's karma) * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Damaniel2 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Apparently the most negative karma you can get from a single post is 10, regardless of how low it goes. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]whatthe12234 30 points31 points32 points 3 hours ago[gold_48] (7 children) I have been awarding good comments only because I have a surplus of thousands of coins from my (now cancelled) premium subscription. Just spreading the love and using up all my coins before I'm outta here. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]isUsername 13 points14 points15 points 3 hours ago (3 children) And the features enabled by gold cost Reddit's servers extra clock cycles. It's not much, but it's honest work. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]chetanaik 1 point2 points3 points 57 minutes ago (1 child) Clock cycles? Make a personal data request from reddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]bobdarobber 1 point2 points3 points 41 minutes ago (0 children) Done! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) [-]andrewsad1 21 points22 points23 points 2 hours ago (1 child) The fucking audacity of spez the greedy little pig boy, whining about Christian releasing the recording of their conversation that proves Reddit lied and they knew it * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]IceciroAvant 12 points13 points14 points 1 hour ago (0 children) Calling it a leak like it was unethical, when all he did was release a legally recorded phone call in response to a lie about what happened during that phone call. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]RedHawk417 16 points17 points18 points 3 hours ago (0 children) People don't understand that some of us have 1000 of coins saved up over the years. I had something like 15000 coins from when Alien Blue shut down and Reddit switch to that. They compensated everyone with x amount of months of reddit gold/premium based on how long you were with Alien Blue. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Tashlan666 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children) Some people are burning the reddit coins they have gotten for free over time to tag spez with the snake emoji. I have a bunch of reddit coins that I think were given to me when people have gilded comments in the past. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]badarts 194 points195 points196 points 4 hours ago (8 children) So, it's the first time in over ten months that the CEO of the website appears here to post or comment and one can feel the contempt he holds for the reddit userbase radiating off of his non-answers. I'm actually a little disturbed contemplating the toxic relationship he seems to have with the site. Nobody wants him here- least of all himself- and yet here we are. This abortion of an AMA ... is this truly what his vulture capitalist overseers want? Is he simply angling for a golden parachute after all this? I wonder if there's anybody in /u/spez's life that doesn't view him as a unredeemably disappointing little sycophant. I wonder if he thinks this briskly-evaporating cash grab will make up for that. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]looeeyeah 43 points44 points45 points 2 hours ago (3 children) There's a reason that /u/spez is taking all the focus. Make it seem like he's the only one, they'll fire him next week. He'll get a pay off, and then they'll continue down this road. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]badarts 19 points20 points21 points 2 hours ago (2 children) The cruelty is that I'm certain he's a willing participant in his own under-bus-going and that he thinks himself quite clever for it. That's more consideration than he ever gave Ellen Pao. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Upsilodon 9 points10 points11 points 1 hour ago (1 child) he has a nice stack of cash lined up when he's "canned" and the new guys come in to "clean up the mess" methinks my guess he wanted out once the IPO dropped but this API drama gives him an even earlier opportunity to weasel AND his little severance package doesn't go down with said IPO * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]badarts 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (0 children) "Weasel" seems like a fitting verb or adjective for anything to which u/spez sets his hand. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Stalking_Goat 22 points23 points24 points 2 hours ago (3 children) He gets himself through the day by fantasizing that someday we will literally be his slaves. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]badarts 8 points9 points10 points 2 hours ago (0 children) To think that, meanwhile, fiction authors bear the burden of constructing believable villains ... * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]Ulu-Mulu-no-die 125 points126 points127 points 4 hours ago (13 children) The AMA is already downvoted to oblivion lmao. Edit: thanks for linking answers! It's almost impossible to find them. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 4 hours ago (12 children) [deleted] [-]b0w3n 10 points11 points12 points 3 hours ago (11 children) Wonder if he got throttled by the spam filters when someone drops below a certain ratio of up/down votes. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 3 hours ago (10 children) [deleted] [-]Rene_Z 17 points18 points19 points 3 hours ago (7 children) He most likely wrote up answers all day and is now just searching for questions to paste these answers to. He's not gonna give any answers to questions we actually want answered. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]b0w3n 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I think you're right. Dude replied to one of the ten questions asked on this one: https://old.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkd09c/?context=3 I wonder how much that cherry picker cost him. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 3 hours ago (4 children) [deleted] [-]b0w3n 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (3 children) Yeah it was pretty obvious this was going to be astroturfed. I expected more sockpuppet accounts for him to ask his own softball questions. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 3 hours ago (2 children) [deleted] [-]b0w3n 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Dude runs his company about as well as Yahoo was run. Instead of making a solid product and charging a reasonable rate, dude is trying to juke 3rd party tools so they all come back to the official client. Then he can collect more advertisement data to sell instead. Gotta do anything to try and recover that devastating blow to the potential IPO from the other day. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]TarocchiRocchi 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) That's my question. Sure, there are probably plenty of smaller Reddit apps that don't have as many users, but what happens if they got a lot of people signing up and using it? They would run into the exact same issue Apollo did. Charging for API usage like that doesn't help anyone * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]jon_pincus 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Good catch with the "A:" getting edited out! Agreed, I'm sure they've crafted responses in advance. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]IanIsNotMe 202 points203 points204 points 5 hours ago* (16 children) Thanks for doing this - wow, his SECOND comment is addressing the Selig libel and my word it could not have been worse Edit: when you thought it couldn't be worse, all of these hastily written responses are actually pre-written lmao * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]BailoutBill 64 points65 points66 points 4 hours ago (2 children) "How dare he not trust us at our word! And accumulate proof that we aren't trustworthy! And then publicly release that proof! We would never continue to do business with someone like that." * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]theg721 30 points31 points32 points 3 hours ago (0 children) And then publicly release that proof! But only after being publicly accused. He didn't just leak their phone conversation for shits and giggles. He's actually indignant at being called out for lying! He seems exactly like the kind of rich asshole who's not been told no in many years. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]isUsername 15 points16 points17 points 3 hours ago (0 children) And then publicly release that proof! "...after we libel him about the contents of that proof!" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]aishik-10x 25 points26 points27 points 3 hours ago (4 children) I can't believe this guy is so clueless about PR. I love to see it, self-immolation is fun to watch when it's /u/spez... but it still disappoints me. I'm now convinced the only option is to go dark until Steve Huffman is removed permanently from Reddit. He's clearly the one influencing this insane direction here. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]looeeyeah 14 points15 points16 points 2 hours ago (3 children) I'm sure Steve will take the bullet, Reddit will act like there have been changes made and continue as normal. They did it with Ellen Pao they'll just do it again. It's a classic corporate play. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]aishik-10x 10 points11 points12 points 2 hours ago (2 children) Ellen Pao was also spez's doing though. I'm not convinced that he isn't everything that's wrong with Reddit's current direction, he seems to be supporting it harder than someone who's just a pawn to investors. Some of his responses also seem very petty and personal in the AMA. spez is looking for that golden parachute from the IPO. He'll raze the site to the ground if that's what he needs. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]looeeyeah 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) That's what I meant. He will take the blame, take the money, and nothing will change. The users will act like they've had a win as spez has left, but really he's the one who made m/billions. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Winertia 13 points14 points15 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I can't believe he posted that. I thought the answers would be carefully worded and heavily sanitized by PR. Nope, he appears to be going rogue. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]yoshadoo 12 points13 points14 points 3 hours ago (2 children) He edited that part out, but here's an archive of the original reply * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Stalking_Goat 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) I think you linked to the wrong screenshot? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]demonshonor 4 points5 points6 points 2 hours ago (0 children) I don't think so. You just need to scroll down a bit. The pig bitch's original comment had an "A:" at the start as if he was copying it from a q&a sheet. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Mantipath 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) I'm glad you mentioned libel. It's arguably actual libel. Of course he'll just blame a "miscommunication" with his representative. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Xyldarran 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (0 children) I'm begging him to sue for libel. Begging. Hell I'll donate to the legal fund * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]YMGenesis 1 point2 points3 points 56 minutes ago (0 children) That is hilarious. Buncha nozzles. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]digitallyfree 69 points70 points71 points 4 hours ago (5 children) With this joke of an AMA I'm wondering if subs should start shutting down early (maybe even today) to show our distaste. It's now very clear that Reddit isn't going to compromise and back down. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]aishik-10x 30 points31 points32 points 3 hours ago (3 children) I think they should still go offline on Monday, makes the hit to their statistics much clearer to see. But the 48 hour plan has to go. An indefinite blackout is the only thing that can jolt spez into doing something. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]bordain_de_putel 6 points7 points8 points 1 hour ago (0 children) jolt spez into doing something. The cynic in me thinks he is done giving a shit considering he hasn't made a single post in over 300 days prior to this AMA and is just thinking bout the money he is going to make. He clearly doesn't give a shit about reddit or its users. It's just a mean to make money. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]AmethystWarlock 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (1 child) Fuck going offline. Nuke the entire sub, scrub the posts, and delete the account. Spez is an irredeemable piece of shit and so is the rest of the 'admin team' both for enabling his behavior and doing the exact same damn thing he's doing. Reddit is dead - the only thing that would be acceptable is a complete rollback of api restrictions and a total replacement of the 'admin team'. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]TheAridTaung 18 points19 points20 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Some are. More should * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Not_So_Bad_Andy 193 points194 points195 points 4 hours ago (13 children) This AMA is a bigger joke than I thought it would be. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]mysockinabox 57 points58 points59 points 4 hours ago (5 children) I'm actually thinking maybe I should reconsider seeing Rampart. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Not_So_Bad_Andy 27 points28 points29 points 4 hours ago (2 children) The Rampart AMA was incredibly successful compared to this. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]theg721 17 points18 points19 points 3 hours ago (1 child) This AMA is certainly making me feel a sense of pride and accomplishment, in any case * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]makesureimjewish 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) deep cut <3 * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]TarocchiRocchi 30 points31 points32 points 3 hours ago (4 children) Every answer was like, oh yea we are working on it! At some point, maybe? We are working with developers and continue to have discussions Like, most of these answers provided no new information and some didn't even answer the question that was asked. I like how they wanted to throw shade on 3rd party apps and how 'they aren't profitable like some of them' ok, so this seems like something that is being done to retaliate? Also, why are they acting as though reddit data hasn't been used in research and LLM for literal years? This is just a cash grab and I doubt it is costing them millions. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]strp 17 points18 points19 points 2 hours ago (2 children) Also he doesn't seem to get that publicly announcing that 'we aren't profitable like some of those troublesome apps' is a major self-own? Like dude, sulkily announcing your company is incompetent isn't the gotcha you appear to think it is. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]i_lack_imagination 8 points9 points10 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Not only is it a self-own, it's ridiculous that he's claiming they're profitable but not setting pricing that lets them continue to live while Reddit gets a cut rather than to just shut them down completely. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Tashlan666 5 points6 points7 points 1 hour ago (0 children) One should really ask themselves: "Why is this app more attractive to my user base than mine" and not "how do I kill this app." Also a great question to ask yourself before you try to kill a romantic rival. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Lint6 4 points5 points6 points 1 hour ago (0 children) What? You don't like vague, broad non- answers? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]mmmyeahnothanks 46 points47 points48 points 4 hours ago (23 children) my bingo card so far! feels like i could've marked a few squares but idk * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Mr_Laz 40 points41 points42 points 4 hours ago (3 children) Cross off Claims recorded are illegal, doublers down on recorded calls as well. We've almost got a row * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mmmyeahnothanks 26 points27 points28 points 4 hours ago (1 child) gotchu. his statement on the recorded call was terribly vague at best and implied wrongdoing. blegh. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]KanishkT123 23 points24 points25 points 3 hours ago (0 children) He got "We will do better" in there too. And the top question is definitely super long, and also unanswered. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]b0w3n 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Does he honestly think big companies don't record conversations among each other for liability purposes? That's wild to me. Like I said yesterday, this isn't a court case with rules on the admissibility of evidence. If it's a "big deal" because things are being purposefully broken or screwing with another company, they absolutely record conversations. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mmmyeahnothanks 23 points24 points25 points 4 hours ago (5 children) update as of 11:57am PST * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]AvinchMC 16 points17 points18 points 3 hours ago (1 child) I'd argue "I am a Redditor too" needs ticking off with the first paragraph of the OP * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]headphase 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (0 children) "I'm a redditor too" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 8 points9 points10 points 3 hours ago (0 children) We'll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive. Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable. i'd say that counts as "we are not here to support others buisnesses" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]MyLifesName 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago (0 children) " Dear Steve Huffman, it is with pride that I crown you the king of reddit, one of the best users I have ever seen in this platform, the absolute perfect decision for a CEO and it is with much love that I ask: What the fuck is wrong with you?" may have been edited, but I'm not sure. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Themlethem 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) "We have made mistakes" was clearly already too generous of an assumption lmao * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mmmyeahnothanks 16 points17 points18 points 3 hours ago (2 children) update with a few more squares per the op bc nuance <3 we've almost got a bingo! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]Soft-Upstairs4969 9 points10 points11 points 4 hours ago (3 children) You forgot the top upvoted question Also it was ignored * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 4 points5 points6 points 4 hours ago (2 children) I also choose this guys comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/comment/jnk32jm/? utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PrizeWinningFart 6 points7 points8 points 3 hours ago (0 children) My guy went right for the throat. And of course, /u/Spez didn't answer because he's a fucking coward. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Soft-Upstairs4969 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Lmao u/spez on his way to edit the comments * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 4 points5 points6 points 4 hours ago (2 children) Do you also count how many times a square has occured? we just got another obvious deflection... * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mmmyeahnothanks 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (1 child) most of the comments feel that way so far, yeah. too bad we don't have another square for "doesn't provide a clear answer for most/all of the questions" :( * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (0 children) or a "most of his replies were duplicates" square -_- * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Starz1317 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (0 children) "we hear you" and the square directly to the left of it too * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]BarbadoShakedown 49 points50 points51 points 4 hours ago* (0 children) looks at it I too, can speak corporate. Just depressing to look at from his answering. We could get a better response from a drunk horse than him. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]1668553684 49 points50 points51 points 3 hours ago (3 children) This comment chain reveals that all of the "answers" being given are pre-written, copy-pasted canned responses. If you were browsing the AMA hoping to see anything of value, don't hold your breath. It's corporate bullshit. All of it. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnkctnm/?context=8 In case that comment gets deleted, here is the link: https:// archive.ph/X6EJq * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Shocking. I missed that. Added it to the post, thanks! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Mageofchaos08 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Oh. My. God. That's it, my sub and I are going dark early and will not return until spez stops being the biggest corporate shithead imaginable. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]coonwhiz 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago (0 children) IDK if they're being pre-written, or just collaborated on and "workshopped" by the legal department. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]jorgito93 43 points44 points45 points 3 hours ago (1 child) The "we're definitely still talking with devs who want to work with us" bullshit directly followed by the dev of Now for Reddit going "dude i've been trying to get in contact with you to work with you by paying the API and you've been ghosting me for three months" might be even funnier than u/spez 's weird obsession with Apollo's dev * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ApocalypseMoment 13 points14 points15 points 1 hour ago (0 children) Apollo's dev /u/iamthatis is very well-liked, made an app that is almost functionally perfect for browsing reddit, responds quickly to bugs, feature requests and general community discontent, and is a savvy businessman who knows how to cover his ass. I wonder why /u/spez hates him? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]nocley 37 points38 points39 points 4 hours ago* (0 children) Zero interest in budging. Screw waiting for monday, shut it down now Edit: Answers stopped at 11:57AM PST. Lunch to spez is more important than the community * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]SpiritMountain 29 points30 points31 points 3 hours ago (5 children) How do you address the concerns of users who feel that Reddit has become increasingly profit-driven and less focused on community engagement? We'll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive. Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable. What is this answer?? This is so despicable. This AMA is disastrous and really shows where spez (and reddit corpo) really ally. What were you thinking with your attempt to discredit Apollo by claiming that Christian threatened and blackmailed you? The confusion was sorted out during Christian's call with Reddit, yet you proceeded to claim that he blackmailed Reddit the following week. To me (and the rest of Reddit) it comes across as a blatant attempt to pit us against him. Reply by spez His "joke" is the least of our issues. His behavior and communications with us has been all over the place--saying one thing to us while saying something completely different externally; recording and leaking a private phone call--to the point where I don't know how we could do business with him. He's such a little cuck. "Wwwwhhhaaa scary, third party man (who is making profits) recorded our private conversation and showed that I lied and I can't make no good business anymore wiff him :''(" * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]NerdHistorian 15 points16 points17 points 3 hours ago* (0 children) What is this answer?? This is so despicable. "Hey spez, we think you're focused on the wrong things" "you're right, I am!" atleast it was honest? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Persheymes 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago* (0 children) The failure to read the room is shocking. You and I both know that Reddit is profit driven, that much is pretty damn obvious. But my god, read the room. To literally say "We will continue being profit driven until profit arrives. We are not profitable" is along the same lines of "The beatings will continue until morale improves". * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]asstalos 6 points7 points8 points 3 hours ago* (1 child) It's kind of... disconcerting (?) a CEO would publicly admit they are not profitable (we already knew this) despite the huge community efforts needed to keep Reddit functional from its volunteer moderators to freelance/third-party developers building tools and applications. There's nothing wrong with third-party apps being profitable. The fact that third-party apps are profitable has no bearing on Reddit's inability to be profitable. The insinuation is third-party apps are stealing Reddit revenue. Even if we operate under the paradigm that it is fair for third-party developers to pay to cover their heavy consumption of the Reddit API, the proposed enterprise prices are exorbitant and in no way reflect the actual revenue Reddit would've pulled from users using first-party offerings. In effect, Reddit wants not only the lost revenue from users using third-party applications over first-party ones, they also want to charge third-party developers for using the Reddit API in addition. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]KnowledgeableNip 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children) "I've no idea how to do business with someone who doesn't let me shit on them" is a nice message for investors. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Themlethem 32 points33 points34 points 3 hours ago (4 children) It's been over 20 minutes since his last response. Looks like he called quits already. Over 10k comments in that thread, and he quit after half an hour, haven given only 13 replies. Guess we know how much he actually values this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ChunkMcHorkle 22 points23 points24 points 3 hours ago (3 children) Maybe an attorney actually managed to pull him off of there. He doubled down on Christian Selig (Apollo dev) and repeated his demonstrably false accusations, which wouldn't be that big of a deal normally. But disparaging a competitor in pursuance of an IPO is a federal crime in the US, if I am understanding this correctly, and I have also heard that defamation is an actual crime in Canada (where Christian is located) and not just a civil matter. I'm not an attorney so I can't speak to the finer points like jurisdiction, but in less than 24 hours he has been openly accused of a crime in the US, WITH PROOF, and then doubled down. Maybe somebody got him his meds and a lie down before he could crash his IPO further. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]TheAridTaung 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (2 children) I very much doubt it will actually get to a a legal battle. I also wouldn't be surprised if legally Apollo is not considered a competitor, because either is accessing 'his' content. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ChunkMcHorkle 7 points8 points9 points 2 hours ago (1 child) The competition is not over the content, but the creation of an alternate platform to deliver it. And this is certainly not the best time in US history to be counting on the SEC or other feds for law enforcement. So you're probably right on both counts, just by default. But jfc, just going by what he has been allowed to say publicly, his representation is absolute shit. Or he's already fired them all, lol. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]02Alien 2 points3 points4 points 50 minutes ago (0 children) I have no idea why they even did the AMA, especially since most of the responses were canned. No good lawyer would say that an AMA is a good idea lmao * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Blubbpaule 64 points65 points66 points 4 hours ago (7 children) Do NOT let down. Continue with the protest. That was a try to sugarcoat the API changes so people who don't understand corporate writings think everything will be alright. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Themlethem 28 points29 points30 points 3 hours ago (6 children) I seriously doubt this AMA dissuaded literally anyone * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Comfortable_One_8597 17 points18 points19 points 2 hours ago (4 children) Oh no no no. This AMA steels my resolve. I don't want to only see them revert the API changes. I want to see Steve Huffman's shameful departure from Reddit. Then and only then will I return. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [-]kausiredstar 19 points20 points21 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Yeah he's got pr people editing the comments. Typical lawyer doublespeak bullshit * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Themlethem 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I doubt they have the manpower to edit this level of fiasco * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Starz1317 17 points18 points19 points 4 hours ago (9 children) aight, pack your bingo cards everyone we're moving to Tumblr I guess * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]TheToastyNeko 10 points11 points12 points 3 hours ago (5 children) No not back to tumblr * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Starz1317 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (3 children) where else do we have left * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]karmadramadingdong 4 points5 points6 points 1 hour ago (0 children) We're going to Lemmy, it's been decided. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]OMG120 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children) The ex-tumblrs who went Twitter years ago recently flocked back to Tumblr because of Musk. It's funny how we all hop around. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Themlethem 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (1 child) Sheesh I'm not that desperate to use social media. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [-]MyLifesName 54 points55 points56 points 4 hours ago (2 children) " u/spez I've heard a lot of rumors this past month, and I was hoping you could give some clarification to the community Why do you eat babies?" legendary * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]thefloatingpoint 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (1 child) Yeah. Kind of a bummer he doesn't have the balls to answer that one. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PrizeWinningFart 4 points5 points6 points 1 hour ago (0 children) Because he knows it's rude to talk with your mouth full... of babies. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]dallen 15 points16 points17 points 3 hours ago (4 children) Well that was a short AMA * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]tanglerec 12 points13 points14 points 3 hours ago (3 children) "Ask me [DEL:anything:DEL] some stuff" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]NotTheOnlyGamer 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (1 child) More like, "here are canned answers to planted questions" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]i_lack_imagination 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Some of the questions def weren't planted, but he obviously mostly chose to respond to things where his canned answers applied. The one that I wanted him to answer is, why the short turnaround, the tight timeline as he called it, on the API change, and he completely punted it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]southsamurai 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) He said ask anything, not that he would answer anything. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ComputerSagtNein 12 points13 points14 points 4 hours ago (0 children) This spez guy seems to be full of shit. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]TestingTehWaters 9 points10 points11 points 2 hours ago (0 children) BLACKOUT NOW. Subs should start going down immediately and indefinitely. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Hindu_Wardrobe 46 points47 points48 points 4 hours ago (6 children) SO IT WASN'T EVEN LINKED HERE??????? https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/ comments/144ho2x/join_our_ceo_tomorrow_to_discuss_the_api/ NO link. just silently "uwu here's the ama" that SLIMY MOTHERFUCKER you know this was all on purpose. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Yeah I thought it was weird it didn't show up. Spineless bastard. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (5 replies) [-]seedless0 26 points27 points28 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Non-answers, double-down, and lies. All expected. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]GhostOfSamurai 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (1 child) How long until this thread is removed, too? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 6 points7 points8 points 3 hours ago (0 children) The other was reinstated. No idea what happened. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]soulbarn 8 points9 points10 points 2 hours ago (0 children) As a Redditor for almost 15 years, I can't even begin to say how much I love (and have benefitted) from this community. Reddit has been such a huge part of my life, my work, my idea of who I am. But Reddit is going away - at least, the Reddit most of us know (and I don't even use 3rd party apps, though I do support a couple of them by paying for their premium levels.) I may be in the minority here, but I liked Ellen Pao. Hell, I even liked Conde Nast. But this is too much - not just the attempt to destroy Reddit as a true town square (or many town squares, perhaps) - but the absolute drivel u/spez is spouting here. He should be ashamed of himself. Just pure vomit. A total misunderstanding of where Reddit's value is, and where potential profits might lie. You don't make money by disrespecting your most loyal customers. I don't see Reddit ending - but I see the Reddit that we know and love and have nurtured over many, many years becoming something unrecognizable. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]wyronnachtjager 7 points8 points9 points 3 hours ago (1 child) And then... it became silent for 25 minutes, with in total 18 questions answered in an hour.... Only got like 9000 more to go -.- * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]coonwhiz 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) 1hr later, they've answered 5 more... * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]lostcosmonaut307 9 points10 points11 points 2 hours ago* (2 children) So let's see, a bunch of handwaving and gaslighting. Most answers were underhanded or open jabs at Christian. A bunch of comments on things "coming" to bridge the gap with 3rd party apps that should have been in the works or already done ages ago if they actually had a plan here, but at this moment it's pretty clear they're just winging it. It's amazing he contained himself from editing anyone's comments. Otherwise it went about as swimmingly as I would have imagined. I'm really not sure where this unbridled hate at Christian came from, other than his app is #1 and probably gets far more use on iOS than the official app. It seems more and more clear that they are largely targeting him and have been for awhile now, and it's pretty disgusting. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Master-Spare-4782 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (1 child) It probably hurt to see Apple, the worlds biggest company, recommend an app used to view their website, and not theirs. Ofc, it might also be that every single thread about the API changes have included how bad the official Reddit app is compared to Christians app. Basically, the little pig boy got his feelings hurt because he is a pathetic man who really doesn't have the intelligence to be a CEO, and people are pointing that out by comparing him to someone who actually knows what they are doing. And by what I've seen from Spez, he definitely knows it to be true, and it's probably eating him from the inside. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]lostcosmonaut307 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (0 children) That does make sense, Apollo has gotten a shout-out from Apple many many times where I've never seen Reddit's app recommended other than briefly showing up on "popular" lists. I'm sure that's a hit to the old ego, and when you are still mentally a frat boy, I could see where that would be a problem. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Emphursis 8 points9 points10 points 1 hour ago (0 children) My favourite part is when he claimed old.reddit.com isn't going away. Didn't they say exactly that about the API just a few months ago? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]MysticSmear 8 points9 points10 points 1 hour ago (0 children) Things I trust more than u/spez 1. Tap water from flint Michigan served to me by Harvey Weinstein. 2. The Taliban government to do as they say 3. My ex boss who got arrested for stealing from our paychecks. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]AriousDragoon 6 points7 points8 points 3 hours ago (5 children) So, anyway, whats next reddit? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]NotTheOnlyGamer 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (3 children) The next Reddit might be Lemmy, if the buzz is accurate. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]TheAridTaung 13 points14 points15 points 3 hours ago (2 children) I've seen some bad reviews so far. Accusations of politically problematic devs, hard to use, infrastructure can't actually support an influx, etc * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [-]jgoja 6 points7 points8 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Thank you for putting this together * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]DerikHallin 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (6 children) Looks like they delisted the thread from /r/reddit as well, so the only way to see it is to view the profile of someone who left a comment during the 1-2 hours it was actually live. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]coonwhiz 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago (4 children) It's still there for me when I go to the /r/reddit page. Even in new reddit in incognito, it's there. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]DerikHallin 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) Hm, it's not there for me. Maybe that's because I downvoted the thread? lol * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]SleazyT 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) Something very weird is going on here. I had the same issue as /u/ DerikHallin and searched for others talking about the delisted thread like it appeared for me. After reading your comment, I just did a comparison, and can confirm that the post is delisted for me both on the the site (old.reddit.com & new reddit) as well as the app (Apollo), but when I either view the subreddit when logged out or under a different account I can view the post both on desktop as well as Apollo when I swap away from my main account. Idk if this is just a random glitch or would have anything to do with filtering users based on activity or upvote/downvote behavior. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [-]coonwhiz 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Make sure you submit this thread to the internet archive before it gets Spez'd. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]DKoala 7 points8 points9 points 1 hour ago* (0 children) The AMA is over, according to The Verge who received word from Reddit's PR. No word from the admins in the thread to say they're leaving, they just ghosted. I've seen enough. A genuine shitshow. Utterly pathetic performance from the admins in that AMA about a site change that's antithetical to the site's original ethos. I am cancelling my reddit premium after 12 years, I was a charter member of the program. My good faith with how this site is being run is completely evaporated. I hope the subreddits stay private and siphon the site of any value they're trying to squeeze from it with this IPO. I'm done. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Youareyou64 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Thanks for compiling this * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]kmiaw 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago (3 children) This was a horrendous AMA... I'm leaving Reddit on the 12th and joining Lemmy. I'll delete my account and all my posts as well. I don't even know if I want to come back here even if they revert the decision. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Persheymes 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (2 children) It looks almost incredibly like they won't be reverting it. I mean, I genuinely do not understand why some of these companies so stubbornly sticks to their guns. All they have to do, so very simply, is just say "We were wrong. We are going to be reverting back to our old API policies". That's it. Instead they're having this hot mess of a PR attempt and going further down in self-immolation. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]karmadramadingdong 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (1 child) Twitch managed it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]38andstillgoing 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago* (0 children) We have rewarded and enriched your experience as a mod, pray we do not reward and enrich it further. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]coonwhiz 11 points12 points13 points 2 hours ago (2 children) For the 2nd response by Spez, Christian replied. IDK if you want to include that in the overview, but here it is: Please feel free to give examples where I said something differently in public versus what I said to you. I give you full permission. https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/ addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk4oz4/ Spez, obviously, has not replied. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago (1 child) While that is an important response, the thread would explode if I were to add all important responses to the replies of the admins. I think that's better for a separate thread. This is focused on the responses. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]coonwhiz 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Sure. Just figured I'd throw it out there. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]NerdHistorian 3 points4 points5 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I'm trying to figure, has an AMA that was about somebody or something controversial ever actually resulted in a positive outcome? I can't think of any precedent that would make reddit admins actually think this will do anything useful for anyones time. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Emperor_of_Vietnam 4 points5 points6 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Well, there's still a job to accomplish. Downvote spez like hell. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]69superman 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (0 children) After seeing some of the stuff spez and the post itself says, I'm considering leaving (and I use the regular app...). A shame, but they're really fucking up. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 2 hours ago (4 children) [deleted] [-]Chariotwheel[S] 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago (1 child) No, don't just ban your account. Shred your comments and posts first. There are third-party tools that do that. https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite This way, you leave holes in Reddit. You personally doesn't have too many stuff, but collectively Reddit's SEO and the usefulness of threads can be diminished. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [+][deleted] 2 hours ago (1 child) [deleted] [-]CowardlyMaya_ 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (0 children) At this point, subreddits should just blackout/move somewhere else until this is resolved If it isn't, guess reddit will cease to exist * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]seedless0 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (0 children) We'll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive. Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable. Did he just blame 3p apps for reddit's inability to profit? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]AutoModerator[M] 2 points3 points4 points 5 hours ago (0 children) If you are a moderator and you are interested in automating taking your subreddit private, a bot has been created for this purpose. Please see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/142rzna/ a_bot_to_make_your_subreddit_private/ I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]3luejays 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Hopefully this thread doesn't get removed * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]TaoistZoom 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) fucking clown lmfao * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]LucidIsntHere 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Seeing him getting downvoted to oblivion is oddly heartwarming. Fuck spez. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Tvix 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago (7 children) Is it over. like a dozen answers and bounce? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (6 children) No idea, but no new response for 50 minutes. I will soon call it a day and do something else. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]scaradin 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago (4 children) Verge is reporting it's over Jay Peters TODAY, 9 MINUTES AGO JAY PETERS The AMA's done.I can't see anything in Reddit's AMA with CEO Steve Huffman about the API changes to indicate that it's over, but Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells me that it's done. Based on Reddit's stickied comment, Huffman answered 14 questions, while a few other admins jumped in with seven replies. As of this writing, the AMA had more than 16,000 comments. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Persheymes 5 points6 points7 points 2 hours ago* (1 child) No way in hell. Just 14 questions that barely answer ANYTHING. And they're done? I did not expect much, but that breaks a new low. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]scaradin 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (0 children) I feel that Woody Allen would be proud to know he may not have the worst AMA out there... I was half expecting them to reference Rampart in this. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Chariotwheel[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (1 child) Thanks! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]scaradin 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) No, truly, thank you. I think it's a lost cause for many of the 3rd party apps, including Apollo, RIF, Redd, and other "larger" ones... I have to wonder, what did they give any of us moderators to not go ahead and shut down Monday? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]C0R0NASMASH 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Fail of epic proportions. Announced big, bigger, biggest. Trump-style. Then bailing after fucking up two answers to repeat the "we will do better" mantra. nice job, ceo. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]skepticalifornia 2 points3 points4 points 2 hours ago (2 children) Looks like they have made their decisions and sticking with them - I don't think it is going to go the way they want, but I will be done once they kill 3rd party apps. I've been playing around with Lemmy and Kbin and yes, it's rough and early days, and not a lot of content (yet) but it is very promising, especially if we can get app developers to port them to support those platforms. I've been in a couple of companies that self-destructed and the pattern is the same here - like it says in the bible or somewhere - pride cometh before a fall, or in this case, arrogance and disrespect for the people who made you what you are. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]PrizeWinningFart 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children) /u/Spez must have a scat fetish, because he certainly put on a shitshow. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]GurpsWibcheengs 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children) /u/spez is a complete embarrassment. I think it's pretty clear this one-layered lasagna of a company isn't going to back down so I vote after the blackout all the mods start nuking every post and comment on their subs, turn this shitbox into something that would have been at home on /r/abandonedporn. Burn it all down. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]PastPriority-771 5 points6 points7 points 3 hours ago (0 children) You all know the blackout won't do shit. The best thing we can do is make Reddit worthless as a platform before it goes public. Make their opening stock price be as low as humanly possible. Ruin it. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]HaGriDoSx69 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) On one hand, i fully support the blackout for two days or even more,but on the other hand i cant even fanthom what i would do if my favorite subs would be gone for more than those two days.I already joined a fb The Owl House group just in case but for the others it wont be so easy to find a replacement. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]pbmainiac3 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago (0 children) Wow this turned out to be even better than I expected! Just absolutely amazing. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ActiveMachine4380 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (3 children) Spaz said that Reddit is not profitable. I cannot believe that... anyone have insight? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]KanishkT123 3 points4 points5 points 1 hour ago (2 children) Pretty likely. Reddit is just one more in a long line of unprofitable social media apps funded by venture capitalists. They think they've got monetizable user data now that LLMs are a thing and they very well might but it will never be a big boy. They'll keep trying to be like TikTok or Facebook or the next thing, keep failing, keep alienating their core base. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ActiveMachine4380 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (1 child) I guess they need a new business model. Because this shift is alienating many users. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]TheRealestLarryDavid 1 point2 points3 points 54 minutes ago (0 children) he replied 14 times only in 18k+ comments * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]WiseassWolfOfYoitsu 1 point2 points3 points 39 minutes ago (0 children) tldr We're doing what we're doing, you can all go fuck yourselves for all we care about your opinion. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]bastiVS 11 points12 points13 points 4 hours ago (3 children) Thanks for this. The AMA is as expected, unreadable due to people being so goddam stupid and using votes as like/dislike buttons. It honestly doesn't matter what the company Reddit does at this point, this site is already dead, the user base is just too goddamn stupid to use it correctly. AMA is a train wreck regardless. Cherry-picking questions and answers so far, while ignoring the top uvoted questions... * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]aishik-10x 8 points9 points10 points 3 hours ago (1 child) That part of Reddiquette has been dead for years. People always use it as like/dislike now, it's pretty much the new reddiquette. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]02Alien 1 point2 points3 points 49 minutes ago (0 children) FYI there's a Q&A sort * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Bi-Node 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (5 children) I wouldn't be surprised if spez loses all of his karma today * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]tanglerec 9 points10 points11 points 3 hours ago (0 children) His karma only goes UP, like the API costs. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]haemtim 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (3 children) I was thinking that too. The Wayback Machine shows his Karma: yesterday 1,085,764 today 1,093,098 even though all his replies in the AMA are far in the negative * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]digitallyfree 3 points4 points5 points 3 hours ago (1 child) It's at 1,093,111 right now on his profile despite the rampant downvotes. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Poppamunz 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (0 children) I wouldn't put it past him to edit his karma like he edited people's comments * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Rene_Z 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (0 children) That's just how Reddit works. It only counts up to a certain limit of downvotes per comment (100, I think), but an unlimited number of upvotes. 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