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The entire .WARC will also be made available for anyone to download and view locally with a .WARC viewer such as Web Replay -- this allows you to download the site and view it locally forever. You will be able to download the .WARC file from here once complete. Personally, I'll be downloading every image on the DPReview Studio Camera Comparison tool page as it is an irreplaceable tool for direct camera comparisons going back the entire history of digital photography. I will be organizing by camera, downloading all RAW and JPEG files, day and low light mode, all ranges of ISO for each camera and pixel shift ^if available. Once done, I will make all images available to download as 1 file for comparison, uploaded to GitHub -- probably as a Lightroom Catalog since it preserves all metadata and allows for comparisons using tags, emulating it's current functions, and an uncompressed ZIP/TAR for those without software that supports lr.cat. Edit: You will be able to follow the current status here * 104 comments * share * save * hide * report all 104 comments sorted by: best topnewcontroversialoldrandomq&alive (beta) [ ] Want to add to the discussion? Post a comment! Create an account [-]najeroux 148 points149 points150 points 13 hours ago (4 children) We should all make monthly donations to the Internet Archive. It's an incredible service. [?] * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]fortsonre 27 points28 points29 points 8 hours ago (2 children) Agreed. It's one of the organizations I contribute to. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]15287331 [score hidden] 1 hour ago (1 child) Until Amazon buys the Internet Archive and shuts them down. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SkittlesPizza [score hidden] 33 minutes ago (0 children) Then we'll have to archive the Internet Archive. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Readerium [score hidden] 22 minutes ago (0 children) This is being done by the "Archive Team" which is not to be confused by the "Internet Archive" as they themselves say here * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]postmodest 103 points104 points105 points 9 hours ago (6 children) The Library of Congress needs to be involved in this stuff. This is some real Dark Ages level loss of institutional knowledge that absolutely should not be allowed to happen. (Insert lament about rampant congressional anti-intellectualism here) * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 37 points38 points39 points 9 hours ago (2 children) I believe they do, but it's focused on scientific, academic, and cultural sources. I believe Google has backups of sites but they are internal and not accessible to the public ref Public needs to backup whatever the public is able to. Can't rely on Governments that have the ability to deploy internet blackouts etc. Imagine if the world relied on a site backup hosted in India that has multiple internet blackouts per year. Public archives need to be independent from institutions who's access depends on local and foreign affairs * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]em_goldman 10 points11 points12 points 7 hours ago (0 children) And also censorship, the state shouldn't have the power to change history through the preservation/destruction of particular narratives. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]emotionally_immatrr [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) cultural sources * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SteveAM1http://instagram.com/stevevuoso 10 points11 points12 points 9 hours ago (0 children) Completely agree. I mentioned in another post that we protect buildings that have cultural significance. It's the same concept here. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]evert 2 points3 points4 points 5 hours ago (0 children) I think the definition of institutional knowledge is the type of knowledge that isn't written down well but just lives in the minds of the people that are in the institution. So the kind of knowledge on this website is sort of the opposite, maybe just 'loss of public knowledge' * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Kafshak [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) I agree. Books were easy to archive, but Internet loses things. Websites, we logs, videos, etc that could be valuable need to be archived in some sort of library. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Terewawa 65 points66 points67 points 11 hours ago* (11 children) Anyone remembers "steves-digicams"? It had a review for almost every digital camera back before dpreview kind of took over with it's rigorous tests. steves-digicam would take photos of the same building (some kind of restaurant) with each camera so you could compare. I still remember how I was blown away by the photo taken by the original Canon 5d. Shadows were clean, details were crisp. I still remember recommending the site to a friend who was looking for a camera, and he commented that it "sound like a name for a porn site". It seems that steve himself died at age 64. steves-digicams.com now redirects to some forum. https://web.archive.org/web/20090813201359/http:// www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/canon/eos-5d-slr/ canon-eos-5d-slr-review-18.html * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]luke400 22 points23 points24 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Oh the memories. I remember his kids in the portrait samples getting older as the years went on. Those coloured boats or kayaks. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]seamus_mc 4 points5 points6 points 5 hours ago (0 children) Similar to the Ken Rockwell site * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FatMiata 11 points12 points13 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Wasn't steve's digicams shut down last year? I recall reading that in one of these many threads on DPReview closing down, can't remember which... * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Terewawa 11 points12 points13 points 10 hours ago (0 children) It still shows up on google search so it mustve been recent. However the later reviews even going back to the sony a7 10 years ago were just a single page, nothing like Steve's extensive reviews which I suspect inspired DPreview's format. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]liaminwales 5 points6 points7 points 6 hours ago (0 children) Wow that is a flash back, got my first few digital cameras after using Steves digicams reviews. I think my Sony Cybershot DSC-P200 7.2 MP https://web.archive.org/web/20090819023244/http:// www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/sony/dsc-p200/ sony-dsc-p200-review.html * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]RobertM525 4 points5 points6 points 6 hours ago (1 child) I loved that site! It was my go-to photography review page. I was very disappointed when it shut down. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Terewawa 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I loved it too. I wish it was still around and up to date. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]longhorn718 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Memories unlocked! I used to spend hours on that site! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Terewawa 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Me too. I remember when Fuji x-trans became a thing, I had to pixel peep the photos and scrutinize the videos to see if it was better. Comparing real subjects is more enjoyable than studio scenes. DPreview is much more clinical, for the better and for the worse. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Bleizwerg 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) 5D, still my favorite camera of all time. The pictures I got from it had something magical. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]fauviste [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) I didn't realize Steve's Digicams was gone. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]spudnado88 132 points133 points134 points 15 hours ago (7 children) Please set up a patreon or somewhere where we can donate to show appreciate for your efforts. I have a feeling this is going to be a lot of work, how many hours do you estimate this will take? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 106 points107 points108 points 14 hours ago (6 children) Archive Team is a volunteer service, you can see part of their current and past work here. Not everything is documented, you can find most projects here as a direct download or through their internet archive page. Personally, I'll only be doing the image comparison rescue, shouldn't take that long. It's mostly just manual downloading and organizing the files. The best way to help is to join the Archive Team -- Who We Are, I don't think they accept donations. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]bugvivek 13 points14 points15 points 13 hours ago (0 children) Thanks a lot for this info. Will try to contribute with the best of my capabilities. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SCtester 4 points5 points6 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Are you also going to be downloading the ISO invariance and exposure latitude image comparisons? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Didn't even know this was a thing, I am now! :D How did you find these pages? I can't get here from the main image comparison tool * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]JerryCalzone 4 points5 points6 points 6 hours ago (0 children) Archive.org sure accepts donations - https://archive.org/donate/ * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]spudnado88 3 points4 points5 points 8 hours ago (1 child) I'm actually a writer who has written copy and tech tutorials in the past. How can I contribute? Are there any open assignments? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (0 children) You can join the hackint specially setup for the DPReview archive and ask what is needed. You can also directly contribute by helping download pages with Warrior and Warrior Tracker. It seems like concurrency of 1 with a delay of 100ms is sufficient to avoid rate limiting. -- DPReview Archive Team page You'll want to co-ordinate which sections of DPReview your deployed warrior will scrape and which are the most significant to prioritize such as articles. I believe they are currently scraping site metadata before they start the actual archiving so you might want to join the hackint and ask specifically what the plan is before leaving warrior to crawl and image the site. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]HarryCaul74 41 points42 points43 points 11 hours ago (23 children) If anything DPReview should be raking in millions for Amazon through the quality reviews and testing it offers. There really is something for everyone on the forums. Can't understand the justification of saving cash by shutting it down * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]bilindastang 24 points25 points26 points 9 hours ago (6 children) My somewhat tinfoil-hat theory is as long as DPReview is out there telling people certain cameras aren't worth the money, it costs Amazon to hold inventory of those cameras that don't sell. If the only/main source of camera reviews is hypebeasts on YouTube that when you google "(camera name) review" tell you that you should definitely buy it and it'll make all your images and video turn out perfect, that's good for Amazon, because anyone interested in any camera product will end up buying it because they don't see any info telling them otherwise. See also: the hypebeastification of cheap guitar reviews. Harley Benton, Squier, and a litany of other budget brands that come out with super cheap guitars in new colors and styles every year send free guitars to YouTubers in exchange for positive reviews, so now it's way harder than it used to be to find honest gear reviews that tell you whether that $200-300 guitar has quality manufacturing or if it plays like a $50 beater that's been left in somebody's garage for a decade. I don't have anything against cheap guitars, but the recent saturation of Harley Bentons in general and Squier Bullet Mustangs in particular on YouTube's platform made it abundantly clear that manufacturers are paying for reviews. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Mythrilfan 11 points12 points13 points 6 hours ago (0 children) My somewhat tinfoil-hat theory is as long as DPReview is out there telling people certain cameras aren't worth the money, it costs Amazon to hold inventory of those cameras that don't sell. * Digital cameras are a vanishingly small portion of Amazon's sales * DPReview links directly to amazon, driving sales, other things being equal * Amazon doesn't care if it's selling the shit cameras or the good cameras * I'll say it again, because it can't be overstated: the global digital camera market is tiny. Here's some figures I found, ignore corona-year, because clearly even 2019 was tiny: The volume of the global digital camera market at the end of 2020 reached 8.85 million units, having decreased by 40.3% compared to 2019. For comparison, Toyota sold around 10 million cars in 2019. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]RolfWiggum 3 points4 points5 points 8 hours ago (0 children) Not everyone reads DPReview, and Amazon holds lots of inventory of nearly everything. They likely have systems to anticipate demand, and know how much to stock. I doubt a negative review of some product is a reason to kill the site. Amazon does care about sales, so if other reviews lead to a sale, that's good for Amazon. They don't make the cameras, so any sale is likely a win. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ssoyd 1 point2 points3 points 7 hours ago (3 children) I own a Squire Vintage Modified fretless Jazz bass and it's every bit as good as the Fender American-made equivalent ay 1/4 the cost. Of course, I bought this bass about 15 years ago so I can't guarantee the products are as good now. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]bilindastang -1 points0 points1 point 6 hours ago (0 children) I don't disagree. Squiers in general can be really good. It's just, that greatness isn't usually found in their sub-$200 starter guitars that you see posted all over YouTube right now. The Vintage Modified Mustang is a way better guitar than the Bullet Mustang, but the cheaper worse guitar with the cheapie laurel board is the one plastered all over everybody's YouTube. I was just telling somebody yesterday not to mod their already-great Squier Baritone Jazzmaster though so I am with you that there are a lot of great guitars in the Squier line. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]sylenthikillyou [score hidden] 28 minutes ago (0 children) If anything, they've actually got a lot better (or at least more consistently good) in the last 15 years thanks to the advances in CNC technology and automated quality control. At this point you'd be hard-pressed to find many differences between the factory machine lines that make the Squier Affinity strats and the Fender American Professional strats. Obviously at the price range of the Affinity series there are limits on colours and finishes and all that fun stuff, but the strat sounds like a strat, the tele sounds like a tele and the p-bass sounds like a p-bass. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]zadillo 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago (0 children) I actually remember preferring the ebonol fretboard of the Squier VM fretless bass over the Urethane-coated pau ferro of the Fender Jaco Pastorious bass. Definitely one of the best instruments Squier made. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 18 points19 points20 points 10 hours ago (11 children) It's self funding too, the YouTube channel alone earns enough to run the site, companies can never be trusted. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]DarkColdFusion 12 points13 points14 points 10 hours ago (0 children) Is that actually true? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ravine 11 points12 points13 points 9 hours ago (9 children) ehhh I doubt it. It might pay for one or two people's salary but I doubt it generates more than a few thousand dollars a month. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FrontFocused 4 points5 points6 points 7 hours ago (8 children) It's making around $12,000USD per month. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ravine 3 points4 points5 points 6 hours ago (4 children) Where are you getting that information from? They get around 1 million views a month and to get $12,000pm, you'd need an unattainably high CPM. 1 million views would be lucky to get $3-4000. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FrontFocused 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago* (1 child) At the moment 1m views is around $12k usd. Multiple YouTubers have confirmed this. Obviously this varies and has been as low as like $3k during the adpocalypse. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ravine 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Realistically it depends on your niche and the videos you produce. I can tell you as someone with 500k subs that mine is nowhere near that but maybe the CPM for camera content is very high. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Forgetting direct sponsors and the actual website sponsors. They make far more money from these than YT ad sense * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ravine 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Yeah definitely. Sponsored content is the way to to however I doubt camera companies pay them directly for doing reviews. DPReview would sometimes do ad features and that would be the only time they'd get paid. In other times, i'd say the most they get for the review is keeping the kit but many times it's preproduction product which will need to be returned after use. Also any video content for a paid sponsorship would likely be as part of an overarching package with the website/posts/ad impressions etc. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Rashkhwww.leonidauerbakh.com 1 point2 points3 points 5 hours ago (1 child) DPReview employs 12 people so, even if that number was doubled, it wouldn't be enough to cover payroll. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FrontFocused 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Oh no I agree with you, that's not enough to cover them. I was just stating they are making more than just a few thousand but definitely not enough for payroll. It wouldn't even be enough for Chris and Jordan to live off of. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]cos 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) Have you both called and written Amazon to tell them they should offer it for sale rather than kill it? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Maxx2245 6 points7 points8 points 9 hours ago (0 children) Handing everyone a termination notice is far easier than drafting a sale contract. Fuck corporations. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Ssoyd 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago (0 children) If they were "raking in millions" they wouldn't be shutting it down. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Dudejeans 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Photographic equipment is one of the few online market spaces for expensive goods in which there is a fairly robust amount of competition, at least for now, and which has a larger than average proportion of professional and serious amateur buyers who tend to be brand loyal and need solid repair service options. I would have to think that Amazon did not want to support those competitors by funding a review and forum site available for free to all. Its sort of amazing that DPReview lasted this long under Amazon ownership. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Fiyel 14 points15 points16 points 10 hours ago (2 children) Choosey beggar here, love that this is being done but would be great to not need LR to access it. Plenty of us don't have it. Seems silly to go through all that work to preserve something you need a subscription to even view. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 12 points13 points14 points 10 hours ago* (1 child) Will probably end up uploading both an uncompressed ZIP or TAR and LR catalog to make it convenient. LR catalog is specifically because many other cataloging software' has the ability to import it directly. But yes, you shouldn't need to pay money to adobe to access free resources. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Fiyel 1 point2 points3 points 9 hours ago (0 children) Radical. Thanks for the update. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]bobzilladoesandroid 4 points5 points6 points 11 hours ago (0 children) Cheers for trying your best to archive this wonderful photography community, I only started visiting DPReview a few months ago when I started getting into camera gear, and it really is a shame that Amazon decided to shut it down to 'cut costs' when they don't need to * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]razorbeamz 12 points13 points14 points 14 hours ago (2 children) Please also make sure to archive the YouTube channel! They might delete all the videos. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]computertechie 4 points5 points6 points 7 hours ago (0 children) That would be so stupid, it costs them nothing... but I can totally see Amazon doing it anyway. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ExcelAcolyte 4 points5 points6 points 4 hours ago (0 children) I'm currently downloading their entire channel. If it goes down I will reupload as an archive * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]repomonkey 2 points3 points4 points 11 hours ago (0 children) Thanks for yours and the rest of the team's efforts on this - it's appreciated. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]soggymuffinz 2 points3 points4 points 8 hours ago (0 children) I loved DPreview! They were entertaining and educational. So sad this is happening! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]LosAngelestoNSW 2 points3 points4 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Thank you so much for doing this and preserving a piece of history (not to mention all the useful information contained in the site). Could I please ask how one can get access to the archive once it is uploaded? When I go to the Internet Archive site, there does not appear to be any links or instructions and I would dearly like to bookmark the DPReview landing page (if there is one) so that I can access it online since I probably won't have enough local drive space for 4 million articles, images, and videos. Thanks! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 hours ago (0 children) You will be able to download the entire site as a .WARC file from here. Also when the internet archive snapshots go live you'll be able to download the WARC from there too. I'll update the post with the link for the internet archive. Otherwise you should just be able to go to their internet archive page and search for DPReview and you'll find the snapshots * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]markyymark13 2 points3 points4 points 5 hours ago (2 children) Is there any chance on being able to archive images that were posted to forums? There's so much valuable information within those discussions. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Any posts that are archived should display exactly as they are now, including the actual source image and not just the thumbnail. The .WARC file will have the full functioning website just like it is now. Or whatever is able to be saved in 3 weeks. Should be the majority of it. Especially all the official posts * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]pinetrees23 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Nothing is better at stopping me from fixing something or doing something new than broken image links on forums * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]contactrory 1 point2 points3 points 8 hours ago (1 child) That's good to know. My first posts from my first camera are on there! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I'd still say try save these yourself. There is limited time so if you value them or don't have the images anymore, any of your stuff can only be guaranteed by you * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]_WardenoftheWest_ 1 point2 points3 points 7 hours ago (1 child) Where do I send these fucking hero's money * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 hours ago (0 children) I don't think they accept donations but you can try and email them and ask [archiveteam@archiveteam.org](mailto: archiveteam@archiveteam.org). Email is from their FAQ page * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ShaminderDulai 1 point2 points3 points 5 hours ago (1 child) Hi OP, I sent you a DM, looking forward to connecting with you. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago (0 children) DM'd back and emailed! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]StrategicBean 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (3 children) Those folks truly do amazing work. Future generations of scholars & regular folks will be so grateful for them & all their work. Just listened to a whole episode of 99% Invisible podcast about when they saved as much of Geocities as they could before it got deleted... & Academics now are already using that particular archive for research! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (2 children) Even then a lot of geocities has still been lost. They were only able to archive from 2010 I believe? So any websites deleted between 2000 and then were lost. However, there are still a few thousand that were still up and able to be saved! So what was lost sucks but it could have been all of it. Luckily the network has grown and they are able to in real time assess and save websites like DPReview and Surrender@20 before they go down * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]StrategicBean [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Agreed that it is lucky that the network has grown and people are doing this more professionally these days! Your years are unfortunately a bit off. According to the story from 99pi, Geocitiies was shut down in Oct 2009 You are correct in that they didn't get all of it (which sucks). But they did get a pretty good chunk! over 1TB of data by Archive Team alone & they now have saved in their files over a million accounts when we include parallel projects which also were saving the Geocities data sent their archives to the Internet Archive. Here's the article with a lot of the info that also has a link to the podcast episode https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/ the-lost-cities-of-geo/ I excerpted that aforementioned 99pi article below where they talk about it ...Then, on October 26th, 2009 after 6 months of work, the day they all dreaded finally came. Archive Team watched from their respective computers as the digital city slowly went offline for good... ...But it wasn't all for nothing. In the end, Archive Team managed to extract a terabyte of data from GeoCities, and as it turns out, there were multiple parallel projects that were downloading GeoCities data. A lot of them have sent their data to Jason for safekeeping. Altogether, Archive Team saved more than a million accounts from deletion. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Archy54 [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) Random question. Does anyone do machine or deep learning on the archives? Keep up the great work. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]thedjin 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Thank you, this is fantastic =] * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]thedeadfish 1 point2 points3 points 4 hours ago (1 child) It really annoys me that scraping is even necessary. Sites that are shutting down should make their entire database available for download. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago (0 children) It's the Nintendo mentality. Produce a product, don't care about legacy or value. Once it's done it's done. Companies (especially parent companies) do not care about us or subsidiaries. No endless recurrent revenue for shareholders? Bye bye * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]surf_greatriver_v4 -1 points0 points1 point 8 hours ago (0 children) Hope you can do justice to all the integrated tools they have. Backing up articles and forums is the "easy" bit. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 15 hours ago (9 children) [deleted] [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 35 points36 points37 points 15 hours ago (1 child) And what happens when those sites close? Nothing on the internet is permanent, loss of information is everywhere. All articles should be saved and nobody's personal opinions should ever get in the way of preservation. If they did, we would not have the Pyramids, the Mona Lisa, or anything else in any museum. Lost knowledge is lost knowledge, for a site that's been around for 25 years and has been a primary source of information during it's entire lifespan, there are countless articles with unique information and may even be the original source of information for smaller sites. If you want to forget, then why did you ever interact with the site? You say this as if you've been forced to use it your entire life and don't have other choices over the years. Many of which have also closed down. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]croatiancroc 22 points23 points24 points 14 hours ago (4 children) Do you have any thing to do with photography? If you did, you would not say that this kind of work is available from pile of other sites. Only a few other sites have comparisons, but not nearly to the same depth and breath. Even if it was not, it would still be a very valuable asset to lots of photographers. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+][deleted] 13 hours ago (3 children) [deleted] [-]Dogeboja 20 points21 points22 points 12 hours ago (0 children) What other site has such an extensive sensor and lens comparison tool? And RAW example photos from almost every relevant camera from the last 25 years? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]grendel_x86 6 points7 points8 points 9 hours ago (0 children) If you think it was for newbs, you weren't into photography at all. It was literally the best tool for comparison of lenses for purchase or rental for jobs. Would the canon 70-200 f/2.8 usm III be worth the extra $5k of rental cost vs the sigma? It was used by every working photographer I know (dozen+) * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]sortof_here -1 points0 points1 point 8 hours ago (0 children) It's giving @SlappableJerk Average Redditor * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Dochorahan 11 points12 points13 points 11 hours ago (0 children) Then link us a better alternative to the studio comparison tool? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]yourdadsatonmyface comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points -4 points 13 hours ago (0 children) come on man. one day you might need to look up the quality difference between a canon 5d2 and nikon d700 to make a better informed buying decision! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]trikster2 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago (0 children) This is awesome! Asl old gear offers great bang for your buck (esp just starting out) I can see this content being relevant for some time. Going forward are there any more decent sites reviewing consumer-level cameras/gear? It seems like all the old stuff like steve-digicams, dcresource etc have all died. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]EamesEra 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (1 child) I wish they had access to archive zippyshare links and files, so much stuff is gonna be gone * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Well you're in luck https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ Zippyshare.com * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Forabuck 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (0 children) Doing gods work. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]instantnet 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago (1 child) Torrent so everyone shares bandwidth? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 hours ago (0 children) Will be on Internet Archive so no need. IA will be hosting the files but you will also be able to download them without torrents * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Kafshak [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Fuck Amazon and YouTube. DPReview was my first goto for anything camera related. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]fauviste [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) So glad folks are on it! This, though, concerns me: An ArchiveBot job for the forums was started. It seems like concurrency of 1 with a delay of 100ms is sufficient to avoid rate limiting. However, this job is unlikely to finish in time because it is downloading a page for every post The forums are even more critical than the comparison tools. You got an old camera or lens? You need advice or troubleshooting? Nearly 100% of the time, it's DPReview forum posts that come up in search. The Internet Archive's search abilities aren't great on a good day but to also hear that the forum will not be able to be fully scraped... Is there any way to distribute the load? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ReclusiveEagle[S] [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) The more people running warrior the faster the archive will be and the more that will be saved, join the hackint and see what they need * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PitchSuch [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) Where will DPReview forum regulars be going to hang on? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]123aj321 [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) I'll miss the camera and lens feature search so much! I hope there database will be saved by someone. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]NonNefarious [score hidden] 41 minutes ago (0 children) Is it going away or something? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply * about * blog * about * advertising * careers * help * site rules * Reddit help center * reddiquette * mod guidelines * contact us * apps & tools * Reddit for iPhone * Reddit for Android * mobile website * <3 * reddit premium * reddit coins Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. (c) 2023 reddit inc. All rights reserved. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. Advertise - lifestyles [pixel] p Rendered by PID 27739 on reddit-service-r2-loggedout-86df5dcc9-xj4kd at 2023-03-22 23:00:41.392749+00:00 running d5b78f9 country code: US.