https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/macos-13-ventura-dumps-all-pre-2017-macs-including-the-trash-can-mac-pro/ Skip to main content * Biz & IT * Tech * Science * Policy * Cars * Gaming & Culture * Store * Forums Subscribe [ ] Close Navigate * Store * Subscribe * Videos * Features * Reviews * RSS Feeds * Mobile Site * About Ars * Staff Directory * Contact Us * Advertise with Ars * Reprints Filter by topic * Biz & IT * Tech * Science * Policy * Cars * Gaming & Culture * Store * Forums Settings Front page layout Grid List Site theme Black on white White on black Sign in Comment activity Sign up or login to join the discussions! [ ] [ ] [Submit] [ ] Stay logged in | Having trouble? Sign up to comment and more Sign up trash can in the trash can -- macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the "trash can" Mac Pro Apple aggressively drops older Intel Macs as Apple Silicon transition continues. Andrew Cunningham - Jun 6, 2022 7:44 pm UTC The 2016 MacBook Pro is one of the Macs that's being left behind by macOS Ventura. Enlarge / The 2016 MacBook Pro is one of the Macs that's being left behind by macOS Ventura. Andrew Cunningham reader comments 71 with 55 posters participating Share this story * Share on Facebook * Share on Twitter * Share on Reddit Further Reading Apple announces macOS 13 Ventura, the next major software update for the Mac Apple unveiled Ventura, the next major version of macOS, at its Worldwide Developers Conference on Monday. Like most macOS releases, its changes are mostly incremental, but it does include a new multitasking UI called Stage Manager, new Continuity features to help your Mac mesh with your iPhone and iPad, and several redesigned and updated apps. The bad news is that Ventura drops support for a wide range of Intel Macs. The full compatibility list is below: * 2017 iMac/iMac Pro and later * 2018 MacBook Air and later * 2017 MacBook Pro and later * 2019 Mac Pro and later * 2018 Mac mini and later * 2017 MacBook and later * 2022 Mac Studio and later Compared to the compatibility list for Monterey, Apple has dumped all Macs released before 2017, including the 2013 Mac Pro (which it sold until December 2019) and the 2016 MacBook Pro models that introduced the Touch Bar. If your Mac is using an Apple T2 or Apple Silicon chip, you're safe. If you're using an older Intel Mac, it's clear that Apple is aggressively dropping support for those systems. Advertisement Further Reading PSA: Apple isn't actually patching all the security holes in older versions of macOS If you look at macOS system requirements from before the Apple Silicon transition started, it's clear that Apple has accelerated the pace at which it is dropping older Macs. Both macOS 11 and macOS 12 dropped support for batches of older Macs, but before that Apple had only been making big changes to the support list every other year or so (10.12 and 10.13 supported almost all the same Macs, as did 10.14 and 10.15). That said, Apple has also dropped many pre-2017 models from the support lists for iOS 16 and iPadOS 16, too--this follows three years where Apple didn't drop support for any iPhones or iPads. It's possible that Apple is providing fewer updates for older devices across the board, unrelated to the Intel-to-Apple-Silicon switch that's happening on the Mac side. Older Macs that can't run Ventura should still be supported for another two years or so with security updates and new versions of Safari. Apple typically provides updates for the three most recent macOS versions at any given time, so Big Sur and Monterey will both continue to be updated after Ventura comes out in the fall. But those updates don't always patch all of the known security holes in macOS --for the best protection, you should still be running the newest version of macOS whenever possible. reader comments 71 with 55 posters participating Share this story * Share on Facebook * Share on Twitter * Share on Reddit Andrew Cunningham Andrew is a Senior Technology Reporter at Ars Technica with over a decade of experience in consumer tech, covering everything from PCs to Macs to smartphones to game consoles. His work has appeared in the New York Times' Wirecutter and AnandTech. He also records a weekly book podcast called Overdue. Email andrew.cunningham@arstechnica.com // Twitter @AndrewWrites Advertisement You must login or create an account to comment. 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