https://astrid.tech/2022/04/05/1/dead-tlds/ astrid.tech * Blog * Projects * Resume * Now * About What happens to TLDs when their country stops existing? When I was deciding on what TLD to get for my QR tattoo, one of my first thoughts was to just use a subdomain of aay.tw. Makes sense; it's short, and I don't have to pay any extra money. However, someone brought up a good point -- can I trust that .tw will be around for the next few decades? After all, .tw is Taiwan's domain, and if you know anything about contemporary geopolitics, there's a lot of variables involved here. So, I ended up being safe and just picking out a new .org because those will only go away when ICANN goes away. Still, this is an interesting thing to think about. Suppose China ends up invading and successfully annexing Taiwan; what would happen to the 2.7 million registered domains under .tw? Or, suppose Russia, for some reason, ends up annexing Ukraine (I really think this is nearly impossible, but hey, it's just a thought experiment). What will happen to the nearly 700 thousand domains under .ua? In general, if a country stops existing, what happens to its TLD? Historical precedent Note that this section is mostly sourced from Wikipedia articles so take what you will of that. The collapse of the Soviet Union Back in 1989, the Eastern Bloc countries were assigned .su (Soviet Union), .pl (Poland), .cs (Czechoslovakia), .yu (Yugoslavia) and .dd (East Germany). domain. 15 months later, in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed, and it seems that ICANN had to deal with the fallout of that.^su This situation is not the same as the one with Taiwan or Ukraine; the Soviet Union did not collapse because it was invaded, but because of internal political failures that are out of scope for this article. It is still an example of a state ceasing to exist, so there might be some historical precedent there. .pl Although the Polish People's Republic ended, its successor, the Republic of Poland, continued existing afterwards. In other words, there was a different state, but it was still the same country. Thus, it inherited .pl. .su The Union of Soviet Sovialist Republics collapsed, and its constituent republics broken off of it (i.e. Ukraine, the Baltic States) got their own domains. ICANN introduced .ru in 1994 to phase out .su, but the Russian government nad internet users wanted to keep it, so ICANN let it happen. It seems that ICANN wants to terminate it, IANA states that it's being phased out, but Russia still wants to keep it, and there's still 100,000 domains registered with it, so it seems to be in a gray area. Apparently, because of this grayness and lax and outdated terms of use, it's host to lots of cool sites such as white supremacist site Daily Stormer (to escape deplatforming on literally everywhere else), cybercrime activities, the pro-Putin youth movement Nashi up until 2019, the Dontesk People's Republic, and more. .dd .dd was only ever used internally by some East German universities, so it was just terminated. East and West Germany reunited only a year after .dd was introduced, and West Germany already had .de, so they just used that. .yu When the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia dissolved, some of its constituent states broke off and got their own TLDs, like Slovenia and Croatia. However, Serbia and Montenegro came together to form the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and they kept the .yu domain. But then, they named themselves Serbia and Montenegro in 2003, and they finally dissolved in 2006 and each got their own TLDs. .yu ended up being put on a transition period before being terminated in 2010. All of the .yu sites were simply wiped out. .cs Czechoslovakia was split in 1993, and .cs was deleted in 1995. There were 2,300 hosts on .cs before its termination. Other change of governments In Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq, they changed their government, but control over their respective TLDs (.af, .ly, .iq) were always given to the new government. On an interesting side note, although Iraq's TLD was introduced in 1997, it was in limbo for a few years because the delegated manager was imprisoned in Texas for a while, until ICANN redelegated it in 2005. Summary TLD Country's fate TLD's fate .pl Transfer of power Alive .su Broken up/Transfer of power for Russia Alive, but kinda in limbo .dd Unified with/into West Germany Dead .cs Broken up Dead .yu Broken up Dead .af Transfer of power Alive .ly Transfer of power Alive .iq Transfer of power Alive This list is full of countries breaking up or changing governments, but no annexations. I guess you could sorta view East Germany as being annexed into West Germany, but at the same time, almost no one used .dd so there was also that going for it. There isn't too much historical precedent to look at. The ICANN agreements ICANN does have a publicly-available list of its ccTLD agreements that it has made with all countries with ccTLDs. This includes Taiwan's and Ukraine's. Based on my (admittedly cursory) scan of the Taiwan one, there's a lot of mention about "the territory of the Governmental Authority," which implies that if the Governmental Authority no longer has territory, things might become somewhat hairy. Conclusion At this point, I'm too lazy to look deeper into the ICANN agreements. Too much legalese. I guess if there's a takeaway from this research, it's that a ccTLD could stop existing after the country stops existing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.su- Published 5 Apr 2022 Permalink dead-tlds Shortlink aay.tw/e5J71 Tags /projects/qr-tattoo history internet research Comments Name (leave blank for anonymous) [ ] Email (required) [ ] Website [ ] Comment (1000 chars left)[ ] Markdown formatting is supported. Submit! 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