https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6173 Shtetl-Optimized The Blog of Scott Aaronson If you take nothing else from this blog: quantum computers won't solve hard problems instantly by just trying all solutions in parallel. Also, next pandemic, let's approve the vaccines faster! --------------------------------------------------------------------- << An alarming trend in K-12 math education: a guest post and an open letter My values, howled into the wind I'm about to leave for a family vacation--our first since such before the pandemic, one planned and paid for literally the day before the news of Omicron broke. On the negative side, staring at the case-count graphs that are just now going vertical, I estimate a ~25% chance that at least one of us will get Omicron on this trip. On the positive side, I estimate a ~60% chance that in the next 6 months, at least one of us would've gotten Omicron or some other variant even without this trip--so maybe it's just as well if we get it now, when we're vaxxed to the maxx and ready and school and university are out. If, however, I do end this trip dead in an ICU, I wouldn't want to do so without having clearly set out my values for posterity. So with that in mind: in the comments of my previous post, someone asked me why I identify as a liberal or a progressive, if I passionately support educational practices like tracking, ability grouping, acceleration, and (especially) encouraging kids to learn advanced math whenever they're ready for it. (Indeed, that might be my single stablest political view, having been held, for recognizably similar reasons, since I was about 5.) Incidentally, that previous post was guest-written by my colleagues Edith Cohen and Boaz Barak, and linked to an open letter that now has almost 1500 signatories. Our goal was, and is, to fight the imminent dumbing-down of precollege math education in the United States, spearheaded by the so-called "California Mathematics Framework." In our joint efforts, we've been careful with every word--making sure to maintain the assent of our entire list of signatories, to attract broad support, to stay narrowly focused on the issue at hand, and to bend over backwards to concede much as we could. Perhaps because of those cautions, we--amazingly--got some actual traction, reaching people in government (such as Rep. Ro Khanna, D - Silicon Valley) and technology leaders, and forcing the "no one's allowed to take Algebra in 8th grade" faction to respond to us. This was disorienting to me. On this blog, I'm used just to howling into the wind, having some agree, some disagree, some take to Twitter to denounce me, but in any case, having no effect of any kind on the real world. So let me return to howling into the wind. And return to the question of what I "am" in ideology-space, which doesn't have an obvious answer. It's like, what do you call someone who's absolutely terrified about global warming, and who thinks the best response would've been (and actually, still is) a historic surge in nuclear energy, possibly with geoengineering to tide us over? ... who wants to end world hunger ... and do it using GMO crops? ... who wants to smash systems of entrenched privilege in college admissions ... and believes that the SAT and other standardized tests are the best tools ever invented for that purpose? ... who feels a personal distaste for free markets, for the triviality of what they so often elevate and the depth of what they let languish, but tolerates them because they've done more than anything else to lift up the world's poor? ... who's happiest when telling the truth for the cause of social justice ... but who, if told to lie for the cause of social justice, will probably choose silence or even, if pushed hard enough, truth? ... who wants to legalize marijuana and psychedelics, and also legalize all the promising treatments currently languishing in FDA approval hell? ... who feels little attraction to the truth-claims of the world's ancient religions, except insofar as they sometimes serve as prophylactics against newer and now even more virulent religions? ... who thinks the covid response of the CDC, FDA, and other authorities was a historic disgrace--not because it infringed on the personal liberties of antivaxxers or anything like that, but on the contrary, because it was weak, timid, bureaucratic, and slow, where it should've been like that of a general at war? ... who thinks the Nazi Holocaust was even worse than the mainstream holds it to be, because in addition to the staggering, one-lifetime-isn't-enough-to-internalize-it human tragedy, the Holocaust also sent up into smoke whatever cultural process had just produced Einstein, von Neumann, Bohr, Szilard, Born, Meitner, Wigner, Haber, Pauli, Ulam, Tarski, Erdos, and Noether, and with it, one of the wellsprings of our technological civilization? ... who supports free speech, to the point of proudly tolerating views that really, actually disgust them at their workplace, university, or online forum? ... who believes in patriotism, the police, the rule of law, to the extent that they don't understand why all the enablers of the January 6 insurrection, up to and including Trump, aren't currently facing trial for treason against the United States? ... who's (of course) disgusted to the core by Trump and everything he represents, but who's also disgusted by the elite virtue-signalling hypocrisy that made the rise of a Trump-like backlash figure predictable? ... who not only supports abortion rights, but also looks forward to a near future when parents, if they choose, are free to use embryo selection to make their children happier, smarter, healthier, and free of life-crippling diseases (unless the "bioethicists" destroy that future, as a previous generation of Deep Thinkers destroyed our nuclear future)? ... who, when reading about the 1960s Sexual Revolution, instinctively sides with free-loving hippies and against the scolds ... even if today's scolds are themselves former hippies, or intellectual descendants thereof, who now clothe their denunciations of other people's gross, creepy sexual desires in the garb of feminism and social justice? What, finally, do you call someone whose image of an ideal world might include a young woman wearing a hijab, an old Orthodox man with black hat and sidecurls, a broad-shouldered white guy from the backwoods of Alabama, and a trans woman with purple hair, face tattoos and a nose ring ... all of them standing in front of a blackboard and arguing about what would happen if Alice and Bob jumped into opposite ends of a wormhole? Do you call such a person "liberal," "progressive," "center-left," "centrist," "Pinkerite," "technocratic," "neoliberal," "libertarian-ish," "classical liberal"? Why not simply call them "correct"? Email, RSSEmail, RSS Follow This entry was posted on Sunday, December 19th, 2021 at 2:49 pm and is filed under Announcements, Embarrassing Myself, Obviously I'm Not Defending Aaronson, Rage Against Doofosity, The Fate of Humanity. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. 10 Responses to "My values, howled into the wind" 1. bks Says: Comment #1 December 19th, 2021 at 3:13 pm I call you a realist. 2. orthonormal Says: Comment #2 December 19th, 2021 at 3:30 pm More humbly, "basically consequentialist" fits perfectly well for much of this. Accordingly, you can have reasonable disagreements with other consequentialists who disagree on values or on what effects certain actions will have. It's people who put rules or tribal politics above consequences that drive you up the wall. The specific remainder is that you place a great consequentialist weight on scientific progress. Does that seem about right to you? 3. Scott Says: Comment #3 December 19th, 2021 at 3:44 pm bks #1 and orthonormal #2: OK, I'll take "consequentialist" or "scientific realist"! 4. Rnd( Says: Comment #4 December 19th, 2021 at 4:01 pm Was on board until Trump derangement symptoms. I'm saddened by lack of criticality towards BLM terrorism and sedition. No demands to jail and brand as treason anyone supporting these terrorist and their actions... 5. Ernest Davis Says: Comment #5 December 19th, 2021 at 4:08 pm Small typo: I presume you mean Pauli, not Pauling, who was born in Portland. On the substance: I agree with most of that, not quite all; I imagine that most of the people you engage with on this blog and on Facebok would. The disagreements are partly on emphasis and partly on the issues that you haven't listed. Have a great trip and stay well! 6. the_explainable_variance Says: Comment #6 December 19th, 2021 at 4:11 pm > ... who feels little attraction to the truth-claims of the world's ancient religions, except insofar as they sometimes serve as prophylactics against newer and now even more virulent religions? This might feel intuitively correct (in that a lack of belief leaves room for crazier beliefs), but all the evidence I have seen seems to indicate that this is incorrect. Religious people are the most vulnerable to new religions like QAnon. (https://www.au.org/church-state/ july-august-2021-church-state-magazine/people-events/ survey-finds-wide-acceptance-of) New religions like QAnon take advantage of existing religious belief instead of filling in a void. You also don't see increased partisanship in European countries with less religion. 7. Jon Awbrey Says: Comment #7 December 19th, 2021 at 4:32 pm Well, sweet, well-meaning, but pretty naive. I guess I am 2. 8. Scott Says: Comment #8 December 19th, 2021 at 4:42 pm Ernest Davis #5: Thanks, fixed! If your disagreement is partly on issues that I didn't list, then how do you know that I do disagree with you? (Unless it's stuff that we've discussed on Facebook or whatever) 9. Scott Says: Comment #9 December 19th, 2021 at 4:45 pm the_explainable_variance #6: I agree with you. Traditional religions seem to be prophylactic against certain specific modern religions, such as Marxism and wokeism. But as you pointed out, other modern religions, such as QAnon, are if anything parasitic on traditional religions. 10. Scott Says: Comment #10 December 19th, 2021 at 4:47 pm Jon Awbrey #7: "I guess I am 2" - could you clarify this? As for "naivete," I wear that on my sleeve with pride! Leave a Reply Comment Policy: All comments are placed in moderation and reviewed prior to appearing. Comments can be left in moderation for any reason, but in particular, for ad-hominem attacks, hatred of groups of people, or snide and patronizing tone. Also: comments that link to a paper or article and, in effect, challenge me to respond to it are at severe risk of being left in moderation, as such comments place demands on my time that I can no longer meet. 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