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According to Chinese media, Tesla has secured an initial order of 10 GWh worth of LFP battery cells from BYD, to power the Model 3 and Y in their standard range versions. 10 GWh is enough to assemble more than 181.000 battery packs for the Tesla Model 3 with 55 kWh each, or more than 166.000 for the Model Y with 60 kWh each. Currently, the LFP battery packs of Tesla made with CATL's battery cells only reach an energy density of 126 Wh/kg, but BYD's Blade battery packs are more energy dense and have already reached 150 Wh/ kg. People that worry about LFP's poor performance on low temperatures, actually have nothing to worry about. Thanks to a powerful and efficient TMS (Thermal Management System), LFP battery packs can perform extremely well even at an ambient temperature of -20o C. BYD Blade battery with thermal management BYD Blade battery with thermal management For instance, we reported a self-heating lithium ion battery structure with an embedded nickel foil as an internal heater, which achieves a heating speed greater than 1 degC per second, meaning that, even in the extreme cold of -30 degC, it takes only 90 s for the battery to warm up to 60 degC before operation (driving). Thermally modulated lithium iron phosphate batteries for mass-market electric vehicles Therefore, if you live in a very cold place you could use your smartphone to quickly pre-heat your electric car and its battery before leaving home. Not only the cobalt-free BYD Blade battery packs have good energy density, performance, safety and longevity, they currently also have the lowest kWh price, estimated at 55 euros (64 USD). Anyway, you probably already know what I think about BYD's cobalt-free Blade battery. In my opinion it's the best EV battery pack available right now by far, so, if this rumor is soon confirmed to be true, it's great news for Tesla and EVs in general. However, I do expect that even better alternatives to BYD Blade battery begin to appear in the coming months from CATL, SVOLT and Guoxuan. Long prismatic LFP battery cells combined with silicon or graphene dominant anodes - for extremely fast charging - will be the next biggest thing for electric vehicles. In a year or two, the best electric cars will take less than 10 minutes to charge 80 % of their batteries at fast charging stations. With such fast charging speed, future EVs won't need to keep increasing their battery capacities to become great alternatives to ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) vehicles. A cheap 60 kWh cobalt-free battery that charges in less than 10 minutes will be more than enough for most family electric cars that will have efficient 800-volt systems. For smaller electric cars, 40 kWh will probably be enough to make them competitive against their current gas-counterparts. What do you think? More info: https://cnevpost.com/2021/10/21/ byd-reportedly-has-secured-10-gwh-of-lfp-battery-orders-from-tesla/ https://www.cls.cn/detail/856654 https://sci-hub.se/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-020-00757-7 Tags: BYDTesla Pedro Lima My interest in electric transportation is mostly political. I'm tired of coups and wars for oil. My expectation is that the adoption of electric transportation will be a factor for peace and democracy all over the world. * Next story * Previous story Leapmotor T03 now has 3 LFP battery suppliers Subscribe Notify of [new follow-up comments ] [ ] [>] Label [ ] {} [+] [ ] Name* [ ] Email* [*] [Post Comment] Label [ ] {} [+] [ ] Name* [ ] Email* [*] [Post Comment] 5 Comments Inline Feedbacks View all comments Marcos Henz 6 hours ago The future is now ACTUALLY coming! About time we have cheap and performing EVs. This is what we need to replace the ICE fleet once for all... we need plenty of choices. Tesla will help consolidating the solution, as LFP have not yet been associated to high quality for the big crowds. Last edited 6 hours ago by Marcos Henz Reply Author Pedro Lima 6 hours ago Reply to Marcos Henz Indeed. Even the Korean battery cell makers that previously dismissed LFP as a cheap low-quality Chinese battery chemistry are getting on board. Reply liion 4 hours ago Like HAL9000 would say 'i'm afraid that's not possible': For a 500kg battery pack with a Cp for the cell around 1400J/kg.K, increasing the temperature of it by 1degC in 1second would mean a 700kW power drain... +1degC possible maybe in 60s (~12kW), So +60degC in 1h. Chinese are very good but still can't beat the laws of physics. Reply Ted Mueller 39 minutes ago Reply to liion Exactly! I would expect instant combustion! Reply Marcos 2 hours ago "A cheap 60 kWh cobalt-free battery that charges in less than 10 minutes will be more than enough for most family electric cars that will have efficient 800-volt systems. For smaller electric cars, 40 kWh will probably be enough to make them competitive against their current gas-counterparts." 100% my opinion, Reply Social * * * * * Popular Posts * Recent Posts * Recent Comments * BYD Blade Battery prismatic cells BYD has reportedly received 10 GWh of orders from Tesla for LFP batteries * Leapmotor T03 Leapmotor T03 now has 3 LFP battery suppliers * SK SK On is considering developing LFP batteries * MG model range 2021 MG unveils its new electric cars * Elio-E Elio Motors wants to produce an affordable three-wheeled electric car * [yH5BAEAAAA] Battery charging: Full versus Partial * [yH5BAEAAAA] Comparison of different EV batteries in 2020 (update) * [yH5BAEAAAA] Nissan Leaf battery degradation data: 24 vs. 30 kWh batteries * Guoxuan unveils a cobalt-free LFP pouch battery cell with 212 Wh/ kg Guoxuan unveils a cobalt-free LFP pouch battery cell with 212 Wh/ kg * [yH5BAEAAAA] Technologies that will make electric vehicles even better * Ted Mueller says: Exactly! I would expect instant combustion! * Marcos says: "A cheap 60 kWh cobalt-free battery that charges in less than... * liion says: Like HAL9000 would say 'i'm afraid that's not possible': For a... * Pedro Lima says: Indeed. Even the Korean battery cell makers that previously dismissed LFP... * Marcos Henz says: The future is now ACTUALLY coming! About time we have cheap... * David says: Great news. Let's hope they can make millions of them. PushEVs (c) 2021 * * * * LightLight DarkDark wpDiscuz [ ] Insert [gif][ads] []