https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueOrigin/comments/p5k0zl/we_are_not_like_this/ Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Search within r/BlueOrigin r/BlueOrigin [ ] Log InSign Up User account menu 1.7k We Are NOT Like This [renderTimi] Close 1.7k Posted by6 hours ago Gold3To The Stars2Timeless BeautyHelpful5Beating HeartWholesome7 Silver9Hugz11Take My Energy We Are NOT Like This [renderTimi] TL;DR: Employee here, most, if not all, of us do not agree with the recent PR activity from Blue. Also, apologies in advance if this post has already been seen, I'm having trouble with my posts not going through so I've posted this several times in my efforts to get it posted. Hello everyone, I'm an engineer with Blue Origin and I've decided to make an account just to make this post to express my personal thoughts on recent events. I personally believe that the vast majority of the company's employees do NOT agree with the infographics and other PR stunts that the company's leadership has been pushing. I have not met a single one that does feel this way. In fact, most of us are rather disgusted and embarrassed to be represented in this manner. We as individuals HEAVILY support and root for our friends at other space companies (it's a small industry, I use the term friends literally). Believe it or not, we talk about and get amped about Starship getting stacked just as much as you guys, and we love talking about progress of the entire industry. We're extremely passionate for space and we did not choose Blue because it's supposed to be an "easier" company to work for - its not uncommon for us to work at least 60 hours a week at times. We chose Blue because we believe in the mission we originally set out to achieve, which is to help build the foundation for millions of people living and working in space. With this being said, please keep in mind that we are humans and DO read comments all over social media and it can take a toll as most of us practically live in our roles. We're working as hard as we can; and we, despite what our PR will lead some to believe, do believe in Team Space. Thank you for reading. 235 comments share save hide report 95% Upvoted Log in or sign up to leave a comment Log InSign Up Sort by: best View discussions in 3 other communities [renderTimi] level 1 * 6h /hug This all sucks. I hope that Bezos/Smith wakes up and realizes what they're doing, but that hope has been dwindling pretty fast lately. I feel for you and all the great engineers and machinists and technicians and all at Blue. 221 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 * 3h Continue this thread level 2 * 5h Continue this thread level 2 * 4h Continue this thread level 1 * 6h We know. Honestly, I feel the worst for employees who have poured their time and energy into this. With better leadership, I'm confident that Blue Origin would be on the verge of great things. I still kind of hope that it is, but man, it's hard to like the org when these things are the main things we see happening. 110 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 * 2h I can see the employees having to look for a career at SpaceX due to the thick-headed CEOs not seeing a profit for their [DEL:effort:DEL] stunt. What I am seeing is Bezos looking for money before he delivers. 2 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 6h We hate the bureaucrats in BO, not the engineers and passionate workers. 89 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 * 2h TBH I wouldn't even mind the bureaucrats suing if we had more info about BO's tech. I don't care about lawsuits, I care about rockets. I'm sad we have no news about BE4, New Glenn, their factory, their launchpad. We tend to overlook mistakes if we feel they could accelerate development (we want to rush the environmental review because we see that the rocket is ready). Just wanting to slow things down with nothing to show for it is not a good look. I hope we see more engineering from BO soon 6 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 * 2h bingo! 3 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 Cake day * 4h Continue this thread level 1 * 5h Thanks for this post. Even if people know in their mind that there are human beings working hard and putting in blood, sweat, and tears to build space technology at Blue Origin, it is often hard to take it to heart. Having someone like you come and express yourself really helps to give people insight into the personal challenges that you guys face. It is quite the misfortune to have this PR nightmare unfolding around you as you try to build futuristic space technology. Stay strong, and thank you again for writing this. 59 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 5h Do you have any sort of feel for whether it's Bob or Jeff driving this, or both? 45 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 Op * 5h I honestly have no clue. Unfortunately Jeff is as much as an enigma to us as he is to the public. 120 Reply Share ReportSave Continue this thread level 1 * 6h * edited 3h Since every Blue Origin employee had to write an essay about human spaceflight as part of their application, I believe you when you say you're all passionate about space. I just recently turned down a job offer at Blue Origin. It was a tough decision. But honestly if I'd had to make that decision today, it would not be tough. I don't want to work for a toxic company. Edit: I don't mean to imply in any way that the internal company culture or individuals with whom I interacted seem toxic. I would have loved to work with the team. Only the company's current publicity seems to be having a negative impact on human spaceflight exploration. Suing the government is any company's right, and it's pretty typical. But trying to delay the program, and the infographics whining about SpaceX's architecture while completely ignoring Blue Origin's own shortcomings...nope. 135 Reply Share ReportSave level 2 * 2h Ditto - I am a 7-year SpaceX veteran that gets routine BO solicitations for versions high level jobs. #1 reason I will never work there is the toxic culture. 10 Reply Share ReportSave Continue this thread level 2 Cake day * 6h Hopefully the place that you landed at still has openings and you can attract some of the talent that blue has been wasting. 20 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 6h Sorry you're getting dragged into the myopic behaviour of your leaders. It's been great to see Eric draw the distinction between engineers and leadership and your respective views on this mess. I'm sure all us space nerds support you guys, because you're also space nerds. :) Hope your leadership changes tune soon. 84 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 5h I really hope only a tiny minority of idiots thinks that BO behavior is the fault of all the brilliant people that work there and not management (up to the top). It's really unfortunate that that a large part of awesome people, engineers etc can be let down so much by their employer (Boeing also comes to mind). 25 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 5h Grown ups understand that a job is a job and there are multiple factor in picking a job including family and it doesn't mean that you endorse every single thing your employer or the boss does and say. Best of luck with New Glenn! 15 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 4h Sounds extremely familiar Sincerely, Amazon Logistics manager 15 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 5h Don't worry man, most--if not all--of us understand this is all due to the higher ups, if not Bozo Bezos himself. Sorry you guys are getting shafted from above. 13 Reply Share ReportSave level 1 * 4h insults, hatred, anger in this sub will never ever be directed towards BO engineers A few posts may aim for the engineers, THAT'S WRONG!!!... on behalf of those stupid posts, we apologize, it's never our intention 12 Reply Share ReportSave View Entire Discussion (235 Comments) More posts from the BlueOrigin community Continue browsing in r/BlueOrigin r/BlueOrigin Blue Origin is the technology company founded by Jeff Bezos of Amazon.com in 2000 with the intention of enabling cheap and safe human space flight. 18.8k Members 1.7k Online --------------------------------------------------------------------- Created Aug 10, 2013 Join Back to Top