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Low-level is easy
January 7th, 2008 | software
My previous entry has the amazingly interesting title "Blogging is
hard". Gee, what a wuss, says the occasional passer-by. Gotta fix my
image, fast. Think, think, think! OK, here's what I'm going to tell
you: low-level programming is easy. Compared to higher-level
programming, that is. I'm serious.
For starters, here's a story about an amazing developer, who shall
rename nameless for the moment. See, I know this amazing developer.
Works for Google now. Has about 5 years of client-side web
programming under his belt. And the word "nevermore" tattooed all
over his body (in the metaphorical sense; I think; I haven't really
checked). One time, I decided that I have to understand this
nevermore business. "Amazing Developer", I said, "why have you quit
the exciting world of web front-ends?" "I don't like it", says the
Amazing Developer. "But, but! What about The Second Dot Com Bubble?
VC funds will beg you to take their $1M to develop the next Arsebook
or what-not. Don't you wanna be rich?" "I really don't like web
front-ends very much", he kept insisting. Isn't that strange? How do
you explain it? I just kept asking.
Now that I think of it, he probably was a little bit irritated at
this point. "Look, pal", he said (in the metaphorical sense; he
didn't actually say it like that; he's very polite). "I have a
license to drive a 5-ton truck. But I don't want a career in truck
driving. Hope this clarifies things". He also said something about
your average truck driver being more something than your typical web
developer, but I don't remember the exact insult.
Now, I've been working with bare metal hardware for the last 4 years.
No OS, no drivers, nothing. In harsh environments in terms of
hardware, by comparison. For example, in multi-core desktops, when
you modify a cached variable, the cache of the other processor sees
the update. In our chips? Forget it. Automatic hardware-level
maintenance of memory coherency is pretty fresh news in these
markets. And it sucks when you change a variable and then the other
processor decides to write back its outdated cache line, overwriting
your update. It totally sucks.
A related data point: I'm a whiner, by nature. Whine whine whine.
You've probably found this blog through the C++ FQA, so you already
know all about my whining. And it's not like I haven't been burnt by
low-level bugs. Oh, I had that. Right before deadlines. Weekends of
fun. So how come I don't run away from this stuff screaming and
shouting? Heck, I don't mind dealing with bare metal machines for the
rest of my career. Well, trying out other stuff instead can be
somewhat more interesting, but bare metal beats truck driving, I can
tell you that. To be fair, I can't really be sure about that last
point - I can't drive. At all. Maybe that explains everything?
I'll tell you how I really explain all of this. No, not right in this
next sentence; there's a truckload of reasons (about 5 tons), so it
might take some paragraphs. Fasten your seatbelts.
What does "high level" basically mean? The higher your level, the
more levels you have below you. This isn't supposed to matter in the
slightest: at your level, you are given a set of ways to manipulate
the existing lower-level environment, and you build your stuff on top
of that. Who cares about the number of levels below? The important
thing is, how easily can I build my new stuff? If I mess with
volatile pointers and hardware registers and overwrite half the
universe upon the slightest error, it sucks. If I can pop up a window
using a single function, that's the way I like it. Right? Well, it is
roughly so, but there are problems.
Problem 1: the stuff below you is huge at higher levels. In my humble
opinion, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, XML and DOM are a lot of things. Lots
of spec pages. A CPU is somewhat smaller. You have the assembly
commands needed to run C (add/multiply, load/store, branch). You have
the assembly commands needed to run some sort of OS (move to/from
system co-processor register; I dunno, tens of flavors per mid-range
RISC core these days?). And you have the interrupt handling rules
(put the reset handler here, put the data abort handler here, the
address which caused the exception can be obtained thusly). That's
all.
I keep what feels like most of ARM946E-S in my brain; stuff that's
still outside of my brain probably never got in my way. It's not a
particularly impressive result; for example, the fellow sitting next
to me can beat me ("physically and intellectually", as the quote by
Muhammad Ali goes; in his case, the latter was a serious exaggeration
- he was found too dumb for the US army, but I digress). Anyway, this
guy next to me has a MIPS 34Kf under his skull, and he looks like
he's having fun. That's somewhat more complicated than ARM9. And I
worked on quite some MFC-based GUIs (ewww) back in the Rich Client
days; at no point I felt like keeping most of MFC or COM or Win32 in
my head. I doubt it would fit.
Problem 2: the stuff below you is broken. I've seen hardware bugs; 1
per 100 low-level software bugs and per 10000 high-level software
bugs. I think. I feel. I didn't count. But you probably trust me on
this one, anyway. How many problems did you have with hardware
compared to OS compared to end-user apps? According to most evidence
I got, JavaScript does whatever the hell it wants at each browser.
Hardware is not like that. CPUs from the same breed will run the
user-level instructions identically or get off the market.
Memory-mapped devices following a hardware protocol for talking to
the bus will actually follow it, damn it, or get off the market.
Low-level things are likely to work correctly since there's
tremendous pressure for them to do so. Because otherwise, all the
higher-level stuff will collapse, and everybody will go "AAAAAAAAAA!!
" Higher-level things carry less weight. OK, so five web apps are
broken by this browser update (or an update to a system library used
by the browser or any other part of the pyramid). If your web app
broke, your best bet is to fix it, not to wait until the problem is
resolved at the level below. The higher your level, the loner you
become. Not only do you depend on more stuff that can break, there
are less people who care in each particular case.
Problem 3: you can rarely fix the broken things below your level.
Frequently you don't have the source. Oh, the browser is open source?
Happy, happy, joy, joy! You can actually dive into the huge code base
(working below your normal level of abstraction where you at least
know the vocabulary), fix the bug and... And hope everyone upgrades
soon enough. Is this always a smart bet? You can have open source
hardware, you know. Hardware is written in symbolic languages, with
structured flow and everything. The only trouble is, people at home
can't recompile their CPUs. Life cycle. It's all about life cycle.
Your higher-level thingie wants to be out there in the wild now, and
all those other bits and pieces live according to their own
schedules. You end up working around the bug at your end. Sometimes
preventing the lower-level component author from fixing the bug,
since that would break yours and everybody else's workaround.
Whoopsie.
How complicated is your workaround going to be? The complexity raises
together with your level of abstraction, too. That's because
higher-level components process more complicated inputs. Good
workarounds are essentially ways to avoid inputs which break the
buggy implementation. Bad workarounds are ways to feed inputs which
shouldn't result in the right behavior, but do lead to it with the
buggy implementation. Good workarounds are better than bad
workarounds because bad workarounds break when the implementation is
fixed. But either way, you have to constrain or transform the inputs.
Primitive sets of inputs are easier to constrain or transform than
complicated sets of inputs. Therefore, low-level bugs are easier to
work around. QED.
Low-level: "Don't write that register twice in a row; issue a read
between the writes". *Grump* stupid hardware. OK, done. Next.
High-level: "Don't do something, um, shit, I don't know what exactly,
well, something to interactive OLE rectangle trackers; they will
repaint funny". I once worked on an app for editing forms, much like
the Visual Studio 6 resource editor. In my final version, the
RectTracker would repaint funny, exactly the way it would in Visual
Studio 6 in similar cases. I think I understood the exact
circumstances back then, but haven't figured out a reasonable way to
avoid them. Apparently the people working at that abstraction level
at Microsoft couldn't figure it out, either. What's that? Microsoft
software is always crap? You're a moron who thinks everything is
absolutely trivial to get right because you've never done anything
worthwhile in your entire life. Next.
Problem 4: at higher levels, you can't even understand what's going
on. With bare metal machines, you just stop the processor, physically
(nothing runs), and then read every bit of memory you want. All the
data is managed by a single program, so you can display every
variable and see the source code of every function. The ultimate
example of the fun that is higher-level debugging is a big, slow,
hairy shell script. "rm: No match." Who the hell said that, and how
am I supposed to find out? It could be ten sub-shells below. Does it
even matter? So what if I couldn't remove some files? Wait, but why
were they missing - someone thought they should be there? Probably
based on the assumption that a program should have generated them
previously, so that program is broken. Which program? AAARGH!!
OK, so shell scripts aren't the best example of high-level languages.
Or maybe you think they are; have fun. I don't care. I had my share
of language wars. This isn't about languages. I want to move on to
the next example. No shell scripts. You have JavaScript (language 1)
running inside HTML/CSS (languages 2 & 3) under Firefox (written in
language 4) under Windows (no source code), talking to a server
written in PHP (language 5, one good one) under Linux (yes source
code, but no way to do symbolic debugging of the kernel nonetheless).
I think it somewhat complicates the debugging process; surely no
single debugger will ever be able to make sense of that.
Problem 5: as you climb higher, the amount of options grows
exponentially. A tree has one root, a few thick branches above it,
and thousands of leaves at the top. Bend the root and the tree falls.
But leaves, those can grow in whichever direction they like.
Linkers are so low-level that they're practically portable, and
they're all alike. What can you come up with when you swim that low?
Your output is a memory map. A bunch of segments. Base, size, bits,
base, size, bits. Kinda limits your creativity. GUI toolkits? The
next one is of course easier to master than the first one, but they
are really different. What format do you use to specify layouts,
which part is data-driven and which is spelled as code? How do you
handle the case where the GUI is running on a remote machine? Which
UI components are built-in? Do you have a table control with cell
joining and stuff or just a list control? Does your edit box check
spelling? How? I want to use my own dictionary! Which parts of the
behavior of existing controls can be overridden and how? Do you use
native widgets on each host, surprising users who switch platforms,
or roll your own widgets, surprising the users who don't?
HTML and Qt are both essentially UI platforms. Counts as "different
enough" for me. Inevitably, both suck in different ways which you
find out after choosing the wrong one (well, it may be obvious with
those two from the very beginning; Qt and gtk are probably a better
example). Porting across them? Ha.
The fundamental issue is, for many lower-level problems there's The
Right Answer (IEEE floating point). Occasionally The Wrong Answer
gains some market share and you have to live with that (big endian;
lost some market share recently). With higher-level things, it's
virtually impossible to define which answer is right. This interacts
badly with the ease of hacking up your own incompatible higher-level
nightmare. Which brings us to...
Problem 6: everybody thinks high-level is easy, on the grounds that
it's visibly faster. You sure can develop more high-level
functionality in a given time slot compared to the lower-level kind.
So what? You can drive faster than you can walk. But driving isn't
easier; everybody can walk, but to drive, you need a license. Perhaps
that was the thing mentioned by the Awesome (Ex-Web) Developer: at
least truck drivers have licenses. But I'm not sure that's what he
said. I'll tell you what I do know for sure: every second WordPress
theme I tried was broken out of the box, in one of three ways: (1)
PHP error, (2) SQL error and (3) a link pointing to a missing page.
WordPress themes are written in CSS and PHP. Every moron can pick up
CSS and PHP; apparently, every moron did pick them up. Couldn't they
keep the secret at least from some of them? Whaaaam! The speedy 5-ton
truck goes right into the tree. Pretty high-level leaves fall off,
covering the driver's bleeding corpse under the tender rays of
sunset. And don't get me started about the WordPress entry editing
window.
Now, while every moron tries his luck with higher-level coding, it's
not like everyone doing high-level coding is... you get the idea. The
other claim is not true. In fact, this entry is all about how the
other claim isn't true. There are lots of brilliant people working on
high-level stuff. The problem is, they are not alone. The higher your
abstraction level, the lower the quality of the average code snippet
you bump into. Because it's easy to hack up by the copy-and-paste
method, it sorta works, and if it doesn't, it seems to do, on
average, and if it broke your stuff, it quite likely your problem,
remember?
Problem 7: it's not just the developers who think it's oh-so-easy.
Each and every end user thinks he knows exactly what features you
need. Each and every manager thinks so, too. Sometimes they disagree,
and no, the manager doesn't always think that "the customer is always
right". But that's another matter. The point here is that when you do
something "easy", too many people will tell you how it sucks, and you
have to just live with that (of course having 100 million users can
comfort you, but that is still another matter, and there are times
when you can't count on that).
I maintain low-level code, and people are sort of happy with it.
Sometimes I think it has sucky bits, which get in your way. In these
cases, I actually have to convince people that these things should be
changed, because everybody is afraid to break something at that
level. Hell, even bug fixes are treated like something nice you've
done, as if you weren't supposed to fix your goddamn bugs. Low-level
is intimidating. BITS! REGISTERS! HEXADECIMAL! HELP!!
Some people abuse their craft and actively intimidate others. I'm not
saying you should do that; in fact, this entry is all about how you
shouldn't do that. The people who do it are bastards. I've known such
a developer; I call him The Bastard. I might publish the adventures
of The Bastard some day, but I need to carefully consider this. I'm
pretty sure that the Awesome Developer won't mind if someone
recognizes him in a publicly available page, but I'm not so sure
about The Bastard for some reason or other.
What I'm saying is, maintaining high-level code is extremely hard.
Making a change is easy; making it right without breaking anything
isn't. You can drive into a tree in no time. High-level code has a
zillion of requirements, and as time goes by, the chance that many of
them are implicit and undocumented and nobody even remembers them
grows. People don't get it. It's a big social problem. As a low-level
programmer, you have to convince people not to be afraid when you
give them something. As a high-level programmer, you have to convince
them that you can't just give them more and more and MORE. Guess
which is easier. It's like paying, which is always less hassle than
getting paid. Even if you deal with a Large, Respectful Organization.
Swallowing is easier than spitting, even for respectful
organizations. Oops, there's an unintended connotation in there. Fuck
that. I'm not editing this out. I want to be through with this. Let's
push forward.
The most hilarious myth is that "software is easy to fix"; of course
it refers to application software, not "system" software. Ever got an
e-mail with a ">From" at the beginning of a line? I keep getting
those once in a while. Originally, the line said "From" and then it
got quoted by sendmail or a descendant. The bug has been around for
decades. The original hardware running sendmail is dead. And that
hardware had no bugs. The current hardware running sendmail has no
bugs, either. Those bugs were fixed somewhere during the testing
phase. Application software is never tested like hardware. I know,
because I've spent about 9 months, the better part of 2007, writing
hardware tests. Almost no features; testing, exclusively. And I was
just one of the few people doing testing. You see, you can't fix a
hardware bug; it will cost you $1M, at least. The result is that you
test the hardware model before manufacturing, and you do fix the bug.
But with software, you can always change it later, so you don't do
testing. In hardware terms, the testing most good software undergoes
would be called "no testing". And then there's already a large
installed base, plus quick-and-dirty mailbox-parsing scripts people
wrote, and all those mailboxes lying around, and no way to make any
sense of them without maintaining bugward compatibility (the term
belongs to a colleague of mine, who - guess what - maintains a
high-level code base). So you never fix the bug. And most
higher-level code is portable; its bugs can live forever.
And the deadlines. The amount of versions of software you can
release. 1.0, 1.1, 1.1.7, 1.1.7.3... The higher your abstraction level,
the more changes they want, the more intermediate versions and
branches you'll wind up with. And then you have to support all of
them. Maybe they have to be able to read each other's data files.
Maybe they need to load each other's modules. And they are
high-level. Lots of stuff below each of them, lots of functionality
in them. Lots of modules and data files. Lots of developers, some of
whom mindlessly added features which grew important and must be
supported. Damn...
I bet that you're convinced that "lower-level" correlates with
"easier" by now. Unless you got tired and moved elsewhere, in which
case I'm not even talking to you. QED.
Stay tuned for The Adventures of The Bastard.
845 comments |
#1 c0re on 02.16.08 at 11:09 pm
I agree with most of what you said here but I don't see how you
(By you I mean low level devs) are immune from the High Level -
Low Level Chain of responsibility.
For e.g. If you're a device driver writer for a GPU and you can
still mess up some pipeline code and have other people dependent
on your buggy code which you have to forever maintain because the
next big game pimps your GPU and the big bosses couldn't care
less.
Admittedly this level is still higher than machine level, but I
assume low level > machine level.
-
Re: C++ FQA - I agree 99.9%
I'm constantly amazed at how C++ "expert" devs are just scholars
of trivia instead of actually being able to write up decent code.
Or do they have a new title for that now? System Architect?
...
bah!
#2 Yossi Kreinin on 02.17.08 at 10:27 am
Well, yeah, you can't get out of the food chain, just choose your
position in it... If you're doing low-level, and your stuff got
popular, every move of yours can break things, so you have to
watch your step. If you're doing high-level, then until your
stuff gets *really* popular, you have to work around all those
lower-level bugs/quirks; then, when you become awfully important,
the low-level crowd will actually bend their development towards
your needs.
Note that the low-level people have trouble /after/ the big
success and the high-level people have it /before/ that. If your
thing is so popular that loads of stuff depends on it and you're
afraid to break something, you're already in a very good
position.
#3 I can't believe I'm praising Tcl on 04.21.08 at 1:54 pm
[...] On second thought, I don't know if I'd really recommend it.
Remember how I told low-level programming was easy? It is,
fundamentally, but there's this other angle from which it's quite
a filthy [...]
#4 DoctorNick on 04.23.08 at 5:25 am
I wrote a blog post about this last November entitled "I'm afraid
of low level programming." http://www.litanyagainstfear.com/blog/
2007/11/27/im-afraid-of-low-level-programming/
I've done a bit of reflecting on what I wrote and what you wrote,
and I'm starting to think that newcomers to software engineering
can't handle the low level well. For example, to use a calculator
to do simple math usually requires a basic knowledge of how those
operators work. Even for trignometry it helps to know and
understand the sin, cos, and tan functions, but there's no way
you'd have to dive into deep calculus topics like Taylor series
and the like, which calculators use in order to compute those
functions.
I personally have had a bit of exposure to C and assembly through
my classes, and it scares the crap out of me. To know that your
program will fail due to the slightest buffer overrun or because
you misplaced one bit is just frightening, and to newcomers
downright frustrating.
Low-level may be easy to you since you've been in the business
(i'm assuming) for quite a few years, but for apprentices like
me, I'll stay high level for now. If you have any suggestions as
to what I could do to understand more low-level stuff I'd
appreciate it.
#5 Yossi Kreinin on 04.23.08 at 11:43 am
There are two kinds of low-level: the user space kind and the
kernel kind.
For the user space kind, the most cost effective way to become
comfortable with it I can think of is to write a C compiler (for
a subset, not the whole language). If it's relevant for you, you
can usually get academic credit for it by taking a compiler
construction course (check the syllabus; it could be called
"compiler construction" and not have a bunch of assignments about
a C compiler in it). I'd go for the whole toolchain - a lexer, a
parser, an assembly code generator, an assembler and a linker,
but using an existing assembler is probably cool, too.
The kernel kind of low-level you don't care about unless you're
in the kernel or on bare metal. There's a single insight there -
most hardware is memory-mapped. That is, you can tell it what to
do by reading/writing C pointers. From there, it's a bunch of
specific rules for each piece of hardware, and a sprinkle of crap
for interrupt handling and kernel mode CPU instructions. I
wouldn't worry about it anyway since this knowledge doesn't give
you much value if you program on top of a PC or a mobile OS. The
user space stuff is what can really help (to optimize and to
debug and to hack on code bases written in C++ when they should
have really been written in Java or C#).
As to fear - the whole thing isn't anywhere near, say, advanced
math in terms of complexity. It has scary failure modes (buffer
overflows and stuff), but you don't need that much brain power to
handle it. Which makes it a cheap superpower (lots of people are
afraid of it). So bringing yourself to the point where you can
skim through compiler-generated assembly and follow it, is a
fairly cost-effective investment. And if you write your own toy
compiler, you'll most likely get there.
As to years of experience: their value is mostly in building/
destroying character. But you don't learn nearly as much as you
do in school, so it's not a big deal.
#6 AvailableName on 04.25.08 at 10:55 am
This is a great post and is reinforcing my desire to learn
assembly.
Reading this led me to a strange thought - We have to hope that
there isn't a "bug" in reality (lower than the hardware), because
we can't get the source for that... yet.
#7 Yossi Kreinin on 04.25.08 at 11:36 am
To me, assembly is something which is good to be able to read (so
you can see what a compiler does), and to generate (so you can
write a compiler; although the right thing these days is usually
to generate C, not assembly, so it's mostly about understanding
what an existing compiler does).
Writing assembly is something you do for "system" code (boot
loaders, kernels, that kind of thing). For optimization, C with
intrinsics should do the trick. Assembly is gnarly to write.
#8 jemptymethod on 06.03.08 at 5:22 pm
The wonderful thing about high-level is, it's still never high
enough. Consider the following, the crux of what quite possibly
is the world's smallest MVC engine for web apps:
static function sendResponse
(IBareBonesController $controller) {
$controller->setMto(
$controller->applyInputToModel());
$controller->mto->applyModelToView();
}
The rest of the framework totals fewer than 60 lines, and
implements everything except "applyInputToModel()". The jury is
still out as to whether web developers will love me or hate me
for introducing "yet another level".
#9 Yossi Kreinin on 06.04.08 at 1:41 pm
<60LOC? How does it applyModelToView?
#10 Eli on 10.11.08 at 1:52 am
This rings a bell, thanks for bringing this topic up.
As someone who codes both high-level and low-level, I agree about
the relative difficulty of high-level programming.
For me there's another aspect. At low level, I can understand
"the whole picture", which is important for becoming proficient.
As you say, you can hold the entire ARM CPU in your head. Which
can't be done for a jQuery / JS / XML & DOM & JSON / AJAX / PHP /
CSS & HTML stack. The mere fact that you have something in your
head causes:
1) You to enjoy the work more, because there are no dark dusty
corners you're afraid to look into
2) Be more productive, because you spend less time worrying about
stuff you don't know and reading tutorials on another cool JS
library / framework. Nothing new in the ARM architecture. So just
do the work.
#11 Yossi Kreinin on 10.11.08 at 2:53 am
I think there are people who actually do hold a large portion of
the web stack in their brains, which is quite a feat. I'd say
that it takes more space in the brain compared to lower-level
kind of crud though, and I'd guess it's still harder to work with
even if you know it well, because you have to "consult your
knowledge" more often ("what if this?.. what if that?..") - be a
"lawyer" more of the time and thus a "hacker" less of the time.
#12 Insulted... on 10.21.08 at 4:12 pm
Any idiot can bend steel, but it takes a genius to come up with
the eifel tower.
#13 Insulted... on 10.21.08 at 4:26 pm
What I meant to say is that high-level engineers don't care how
the plumbing gets into it, but structures like the Guggenheim or
the Westminster Palace are not thought up by plumbers or
carpenters. The people who glue and hammer are important, but it
is rare when genius is found there.
I admit, I am frustrated by the people who only know the
high-level stuff. But, I know both, and I would prefer to design
on a grander scale rather than be pigeon-holed into CPU
instruction work.
#14 Yossi Kreinin on 10.23.08 at 12:44 pm
I wonder what could make you "Insulted" in what I wrote; I
basically said low-level was easier to deal with, which doesn't
seem to contradict your claim that low-level is somehow a lesser
domain. Of course it doesn't support your claim, either;
regardless of what I wrote up there, I do think you're wrong, and
in particular, the "right" analogy would be comparing the
"macro-architecture" of the tower to the "micro-architecture" of
the joints making it up or, still lower, the engineering behind
the process of melting the steel, or something. It's basically a
design-to-design comparison, not a design-to-"labor" one. So
while it's perfectly legitimate to prefer a "larger scale", it's
basically a matter of taste and not a matter of objective
complexity measurement.
#15 TNO on 10.25.08 at 2:54 am
To Insulted: the main problem of the software design/architecture
is that you don't have to be a genius to convince you boss to
build a Guggenheim. With all the sad consequences arising
therefrom...
Or, in other words, in the software world any idiot can build
Eiffel tower, but it takes a genius to bend a silicon.
#16 E on 06.29.09 at 11:47 am
There's a low level error on this whole page.
#17 B on 10.23.09 at 6:03 pm
i've been programming in java and c# for a while now, but i want
to get a little closer to the hardware. i read a simple internet
tutorial to get the basic syntax for c++, and i understand the
basics of pointers and memory allocation. however, what is the
process by which one goes about to locate a manipulate specific
hardware implementations?
#18 Yossi Kreinin on 10.24.09 at 2:34 am
@B: I'm not quite sure what you mean, but you could say that
"low-level" breaks down into (1) raw pointers and memory
management, (2) programming in assembly/intrinsics for speed, (3)
OS-level assembly, memory-mapped hardware and interrupt handling.
If you're on the desktop, (1) and (2) happen at user-level
programs for optimization and (3) happens at kernels and device
drivers, so this is where you go if you specifically want to get
to lower levels (although I'd usually be dragged into a new
programming environment because of having to do new sort of work
and not vice versa).
#19 noah on 06.06.10 at 7:14 pm
I agree with this guy, I like low level stuff, I want to be able
to write in assembly, but first I feel like I should learn all
about how to write gui libraries in c++, but no one seems to want
to help, and the libraries are impossible to read
#20 Elena on 08.07.10 at 2:17 am
Now I'm curious about how hardware tests are performed. Could
software be tested in a similar way, too? Please send answers to
egarrulo at gmail.com too, since this blog doesn't provide an
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#21 Yossi Kreinin on 08.07.10 at 3:05 am
First of all, there are tools for hardware verification - formal
verification by static code analysis, and automatic random test
generation attempting to cover as many execution paths as
possible. I don't have experience with these, so despite having
reasonable success in hardware testing, I'm in one potentially
important way not qualified to discuss it (actually I'm in a
frame of mind where I prefer to actively avoid such tools, but I
don't have experience to back it up). The way I've seen hardware
tested is you implement a software emulator, usually implemented
quite differently than the hardware model and more simply,
without the parallelism inherent to hardware and with little
optimization; then you generate random tests, as well as tests
for some extreme cases, run on both and compare the results
(usually raw register or memory snapshots at the end of the run),
the tricky part being to identify the extreme cases and to
randomize from an interesting distribution. This is different
from software testing in that you have 2 full-blown
implementations, and you run plenty of tests on plenty of
machines for plenty of days; more on those differences below.
There are two ways in which hardware is easier to test than
software, IMO fundamental enough to preclude the testing of
software along the lines of hardware testing.
Firstly, hardware tends to be designed to minimize dependence on
accumulated state. For instance, the execution of a CPU
instruction will depend, in a complicated pipelined CPU, on what
instructions executed previously, but only on a relatively small
window; a Markov chain, if you like. It is not the only way to
design hardware and I've seen real hardware designs that were
very hard to test because of executing long processes with
data-dependent decision making all in hardware, and in fact those
tended to be manufactured with bugs. It is also not impossible to
design software such that it depends on a limited amount of
state; class invariants are a simple example of being able to
free oneself of thinking through many different cases of what
sequences of events are possible and would the program work
correctly in all these cases. So basically it's a question of
"designing for testability" (though this term is reserved for
other sorts of testing in the HW design jargon, namely, testing
the production rather than the design itself); arguably, the
problems solved in hardware tend to be better suited for testing
because of there being less context affecting the behavior of a
component. A related question is where the complexity is that
bugs come from. In hardware, the complexity comes from
implementation - vast parallelism and tricky speed or space
optimizations, whereas the spec is usually relatively simple, so
that a reference implementation and a set of tests giving good
spec coverage are also relatively easy to produce. In software,
the complexity quite often comes from definition, where it would
be silly to write two implementations and if one did, it would be
hard to tell which one behaved correctly, because there are
actual holes in the spec. And in fact software that is not unlike
hardware in the sense of being easy to specify but hard to
implement - say, a classifier taking a region of interest in an
image and saying if it's a snapshot of a vehicle or not - can be
and frequently is tested similarly to hardware: a gold model
(manually marked database in the case of machine learning) and
tests performed for hours or days.
Secondly, hardware is easier to test because it is expensive not
to test it. That is, people who specify hardware are more careful
not to overload the spec with features with unclear interactions,
and people who control its schedule would never think of
optimizing away the testing. That's because of the palpable high
price of a hardware error compared to a very uncertain price of
software errors (in reality you can work around many hardware
bugs but hardware bugs sound like something extremely scary).
This social aspect of the problem seems to me not less critical,
if not more critical, than the technical aspect above.
In short, I think software is destined to be orders of magnitude
more buggy than hardware.
P.S. Is there actually a way to configure WP so that it notifies
you when someone replies to your comment (as opposed to anything
on the site)? WP doesn't seem to even know who talks to whom, so
I figured it couldn't properly notify, either.
#22 bob l'eponge on 09.07.10 at 12:22 am
If i understand correctly, lower level is easyer because :
- you have a clear idea of what you are trying to achieve.
- you depend less, on the clear ideas of others
- you can actually implement your clear idea pretty fast into
some high level languages ..
- and then, you sometimes have a clearer idea of what could be
actually going on (whenever your stuff is running).
I grew up with the illusion that Assembly langage was low level.
At first i knew it was not, then i just forgot about it. Because
in most case you "can" learn the assembly langage, and even
understand it (although it sometimes becomes difficult like with
modern Intel cpus, where i have no idea of what's going on any
more). And 20 years later, i suddenly realize (again) that i
never did any low level thinking (i don't even knwo what a
Verilog statement is).
I have seen some high level assembly langages, and i really
wonder what C has to offer in terms of speed of developpement
that is better than those. C is nothing more to me than a
macroassembler (and a lot of people do look at the disassembled
version of their C software).
What "high level" really lack, is some standard way to do things.
It really should be all about standardazing. As i see it
everything (high level) should be written out of a standard
assembly langage. So you would have the tool to do fast whatever
simple thing you need to get done. But would also have means to
"understand" what you are doing. Where understanding would be "to
know what standard assembly instructions your program maps to".
But now that i reallize that assembly is such a high level beast,
i wonder if one could not work up something better than that as
the basic low level representation any high level langage can map
their result to. What's the use in cutting off the understanding
of high level programmers from what it physically means ?
#23 Yossi Kreinin on 09.11.10 at 7:51 am
The trouble is that there's an infinite amount of way to build a
physical (virtual) machine in the first place. There's a Tower of
Babel problem with languages that can't be solved, namely, that
there's always an infinite amount of ways to spell things and no
way to choose.
#24 Michael S on 06.20.11 at 7:06 am
I couldn't agree with this post any more. I personally develop
with C++ (consistently for about 4 years now) but just don't see
how I could have understood C++ without writing my toy compiler.
Things such as how come there exists a this pointer? I just could
never thought of a thorough explanation without attempting to
implement a compiler. I just don't think a developer can truly
call themselves a developer (especially for C/C++) without
knowing how a compiler would work. Another example is function
pointers. Something like const char *(*f(int index))(const double
*const val, struct tree *); Just how can someone understand the
meaning of (to an intuitive level) all this without trying to
implement a compiler and thus be able to parse a declaration into
an abstract syntax tree? May be its just me but I don't see how
its possible.
#25 blOOp on 08.12.11 at 10:52 pm
Oh sigh, how I've longed to have a complete understanding of
hardware/bios interrupts, for kernel space programming. But there
is no real, 'go do this br0, it's l3g1t I swear!!!!!!!!11111',
like we higher level programmers have been led to learn by.
For instance; I can barely learn on my own without a video
tutorial holding my hand the whole way. Personally I find my
dependency terribly disgusting, but it's just the world now
day's... ANYWHO, let's stop the banter and get to the questions:
1: The main thing that I don't get, is when getting the BIO's
intertupt for let's say, keyboard input, you would write
something like:
mov ebx, int8030
(granted that's the first thing that popped into my head, I know
it's wrong)
I don't understand _what_ the int8030 is. I can understand that
you're moving the int8030 instruction into the 32 bit base
register, but is that it?
2: On my browsing of several Operating System Development forums
(OSDev.org mainly (Yes, I do want to be an OSDev)), they seem to
throw hissy fit's whenever one of their members uses said BIOS
intrupt. Is there a reason to use something else? Or are they
just PM's-ing?
3: I'm trying to limit my time with ASM as much as possible, as
it tends to bend my mind in ways that I'm sure weren't meant to
happen, (hoping just to use ASM for the interurban and bootloader
(C++ for the rest)) but alas as a hopeful OSDev, I need to know
ASM. So, any good ways to learn? I've been reading the Intel 8086
processor manual, "The Art of Assembly", and CODE by Charles
Petzold, but I'm still looking for better options out there. And
as you seem to hold a fairly formidable grasp on ASM, I was
hoping you would tell me _where_ you learned.
Kthnxbai
#26 Yossi Kreinin on 08.13.11 at 1:11 am
Unfortunately, my knowledge of x86 userspace assembly is scarce,
and my knowledge of the parts of x86 that interest BIOS/kernel
hackers is almost non-existent, so I can't say anything very
helpful, really; my assembly experience mostly comes from RISC
and DSP processors. I'm sure any experienced low-level x86
developer would be way more helpful than me.
#27 0x200x20 on 10.01.11 at 2:52 pm
There is also one other thing that makes low level easier:
algorithms used in low level stuff are usually not too
complicated. For example to optimize low level program you need
to read assembler and reorganize your C code to generate better
assembly. Or simply write part of code directly in assembler.
Try out database optimization. To optimize database you have to
know how really it works. It means you have to how database
achieves ACID properties of its transactions, how B-trees and
other data structures works, etc. It is highly algorithmic and
complicated stuff.
#28 Yossi Kreinin on 10.01.11 at 11:24 pm
True in many cases - although optimizing FFT on a bare metal
target can also be complicated, the difference from databases
being that it's easier to be fully aware of what's going on.
#29 0x200x20 on 10.02.11 at 1:17 am
Agree in DSP there are lot complicated math. But DSP is rather
exception than a rule. Most low level programmers that I know
does not care about algorithms and math. It simply does not apply
to its work.
Btw I am working as high level programmer (now I am involved in
Machine Learning project) but I am preparing to switch to low
level. I have started learning Windows Kernel and it is really a
lot of fun for me. Things are more predictable and you have
control over entire machine. It stimulates my imagination ;)
#30 L on 10.14.12 at 2:42 am
I would agree with this post 100%
Low level is easier, I would take Hardware, Asm or C any day over
some web front end. Possibly why i am in Electronic Engineering
rather than Computer Science.
There is just too much undefined behaviour at the high level
(Javascript is a great example), also too many bugs that are
beyond the developer's control. Even at the level of C i've had
code fail due to compiler bugs.
If a CPU has such undefined behaviour, then almost nothing works
on it, and no one will use it.
#31 Yossi Kreinin on 10.19.12 at 8:00 am
On the other hand, ASIC engineering is tougher than low-level
programming IMO - not necessarily fundamentally as much as
practically, what with all the quickly changing process
characteristics and the time it takes to experiment with anything
(simulation latencies, synthesis/placement&routing latencies,
etc.) At the electrical level rather than logical level, there's
also a lot of ugly and not so repeatable stuff going on (signal/
power integrity, etc.) Perhaps the closer you are to actual
chips, the worse (IP companies are a lot like software companies
and are less exposed to this type of horrors, I think.)
#32 Matthew H on 01.30.13 at 12:36 pm
You sound like me... Hey, wait a minute, who are you and what have
you done with me? And how did you keep my comments from me for
over 4, uh, 5 years??
Good post, I chuckled a lot... in that sad sort of way because it
is true. I think I yelled a few times too.
#33 The guy who wants to be awesome on 06.04.13 at 11:31 pm
I'm a kid (9) and I've been thinking assembly is not so low level
In a aspect because it does have its depancys
Oh I can't be bothered what I'm saying is its a bit hard for a OS
dev because assembly there's three types most of them quite
different x86 x64 ARM so really getting a bootloader tutorial for
ARM x86 x64 (I would be doing x64) then you could write the rest
in c standard call me a noob oh and don't use cpp because it is
harder for osdev because apperantly it requires a runtime which
would not be good for OS because the minimum OS does not have a
cpp runtime (oh yeah can anyone tell me a great place to learn c
I'm following the cprogramming on but tutorials point is where I
learnt python)
#34 The guy who wants to be awesome on 06.04.13 at 11:34 pm
Oh yeah I've got a quite a good understanding of stuff like loops
a bit of networking
#35 Yossi Kreinin on 06.05.13 at 12:06 am
http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ is where hipsters appear
to be learning C these days.
#36 Laura Hamilton on 12.21.13 at 8:37 am
Very interesting post, thanks. My background is exclusively high
level, so the low level stuff is pretty intimidating to me.
I do intend to learn the low level stuff in the near future. I
think that the more levels of abstraction you understand, the
better.
#37 Criacao on 04.05.14 at 2:26 pm
I enjoyed this post a lot, though I'm no great programmer at all
(low or high level...)
#38 Devlin Bentley on 04.05.14 at 2:30 pm
I'm going to have to call bull on the HW being good. Sure it may
get caught in testing, but it may also get punted!
I've seen shipping chips (in the millions!) that will randomly
halt when being brought out of a certain low power mode.
Suggested workaround? "Don't use that mode."
Gee thanks.
EE's have bugs in their schematics as well. It happens. Hopefully
all the major bugs get worked around before the final design
verification step. Sometimes not and software has to work around
the bugs.
Sometimes a selected component is just crap. Lowest bidders exist
for a reason.
#39 A GUI Dev on 04.05.14 at 4:48 pm
Very nice piece of craftsman writing. Not very surprising by the
guy that put together C++ FQA where I basically learnt a few
years ago the C++ I know. I did not find such FQA for other
languages, even if it's of tremendous help. What is looking like
a JavaScript FQA is wtfjs.com. If you skim over wtfjs you see
that it's "only" about implementation weirdness that maybe shared
by all JS VMs. I won't dive into JS design anymore by just saying
that it's *far* from being the best language to do GUI
development, in browser or outside browser, I need to say because
most people think it relates to the execution environment in some
way, except it doesn't at all. Doing JS GUIs for desktop outside
browser will be as much crap as it is in browser even if
[,,,].join() were not legal code. JS Prototype OO system as it is
implemented is not a good fit for GUI dev or any callback based
code. With the advent of ECMAScript 6 generators, the principal
flaw of JS will become invisible if you only use generators. The
flaw I'm talking about is the fact that if you pass a method as a
callback you loose the reference to the object the method relates
too. Namely when the callback is called, "this" becomes "window"
object in the browser. This yet another flaw, but the flaw that
makes JS pseudo-class based code not as easy to write and
maintain as it could be. Why do I care? Everybody knows about it!
Wrong. It's kind of a secret. I'm kind of literate in web based
technology (I build with Internet my first social network 10
years ago) and I discovered that only a few monts ago. This
doesn't really suprise me, since I started professional
programming 2 years ago. But still. For me and others this JS
flaw is a major blocker because class based code is not usable
and object oriented code is not good enough because you can not
override "methods". Best JS code that can be written is as
expressive as C code except it's dynamically typed. A bad
abstraction or if you prefer a bad design is the worst kind of
bugs I found. Bug in the lower levels of the stack are OK. There
is no bullet proof production tested GUI code design that I know
of. I don't know every bits the last incarnation of good
framework in the GUI land called AngularJS. But it has issues
and, anyway has JS issues. Most people think once you know what
Model-View-Control is, you can start doing good GUI applications.
WRONG. MVC is a software pattern invented in the 70's. As of
right now there is no clear idea what's a good design for a GUI.
MVC is an idea, it's abstract and of course, as usual doesn't fit
in all situation. And there is so much in MVC, http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller is a
good start, have a look at http://addyosmani.com/resources/
essentialjsdesignpatterns/book/#detailmvcmvp.
Why I'm so much about design? To my mind, this where is lying the
maintenability of any application. And at least, in my current
job, it's a road blocker. This is not only about the design of
the propritary GUI framework but also the components the GUI has
to talk to and the way it has to interact with them. I won't dive
too much in the design of the thing just stating the whys of it:
0) Political: first incarnation of the stack was using linking
and when a core dump was generated it had the name of the GUI
process. So it was GUI's fault of course. Solution: break every
component into processus. coredumps have now the name of the
processus that failed. Still GUI people need to dive into their
logs and/or the coredump of the component that crash to assert
that it's not GUIs fault, if you can't assert that the bug is in
another component, the maintainer component won't care much and
you will need to work around it... And there is one more processus
required to handle all the messaging between all the processus.
Instead of centralized architecture around the GUI, it is
centralized around the messager making it possible for every
component to talk to every other component without the GUI
knowing about it.
1) Marketing (maybe this is actually 0): marketing people can
describe the platform using neat words like "message passing",
"security" and other things that I was said sounded good to
clients. The only new words are "processus" and DBUS.
2) Performance: The GUI is written in a high level language which
has no battle tested compiler and which reference interpreter is
said to be slow. So critical code must written in C or C++ even
if there is no clear advantage in terms of speed or memory usage.
3) Intelligence: GUI people are stupid or just Python people
doing GUIs in embedded, because otherwise if they were doing Web,
NodeJS is the best tool so still stupid to use Python. So, no
intelligence in the GUI. Everything dubbed smart must be done in
lower level components which are written in C/C++ because people
writting them are smart maybe because those people are more
experienced which is generally true in my company but remains the
question why most GUI people have less than 1 year of dev
experience in my company.
4) Social: People (among which non developpers but other
developpers that are C/C++ dev and that most of the time do not
like Python) can relate easly to GUIs, because they can "see it".
So GUIs are dubbed easy.
5) Python: Python is slow and consume a lot of memory. Why don't
we use C++ or C...
Because of all of that the GUI coding is made very difficult.
Without talking about the code that creates the general flow
between the different part of the GUI or the graphical part of
the code which deals with display the correct rectangles but
everything that is under it, the middle end (http://
blog.getify.com/tag/middle-end/) part of it, is difficult to
write.
In the above part I was explaining what was particulr to my case
working on a GUI running on 5 hardwares in the embedded space for
a product that is used by more than three million people
generating LOADS of money.
I will stop here everything particular to my case and only talk
about what makes GUI difficult: We need to work on an abstract
level dealing with a lot of abstractions. Getting a design that
will hold for the entire life of an application is from what I
had the occasion to assert, a difficult task. I'm not saying it's
not true for other fields. The particular thing here is
"abstraction". I'm not convinced the lower level code needs a lot
of abstractions, otherwise you would be using more C++ than C.
Needing abstraction is OK, but those abstraction are not *known*
by people not even people claiming doing GUI. Think about it,
what makes a GUI code? What's the last time you heard about a
state machine or a pub/sub pattern in javascript code or desktop
code? Everything people know about the actual code that are GUIs
are "widgets" and sometime callbacks or events sometime there
hear about an object tree and don't know that they are actually
several object trees and some know about layout but not relow or
layouting. Middle-end anyone?
I know no abstraction or patterns or optimization tricks used in
lower level codes that have no incarnation in GUIs. Cache
invalidation, there is. Binary or other space/time optimization
there is. Even cache miss are taken care of in game dev at least.
Algorithms? Low level code is code with algorithm CPU intensive
task, but so far from what I've seen those algorithm are backed
by standards and many other implementations. Difficult algorithm
even CPU intensive algorithm are best dealt with higher level
languages even if it is only(!) gluing together C/C++ code.
Sorry it's a long comment. But I'd like also to comment on the
different problem raised in this article:
- the stuff below you is huge at higher levels: GUI don't always
think or need to think everything top down like in game dev or
some incarnation of embedded.
- HTML, CSS, JavaScript, XML and DOM are a lot of things: not
really, they are data & algorithm.
- a CPU is somewhat smaller: has I/O with several components in
different modes. Web GUI I/O are one user or one server.
- Keeping spec in your head: True.
- <> this is not alway below. But
yes. This is also true at lower levels. The thing at higher
levels is that people don't want or need to fix them. Also the
pratice is less documented or "obvious".
- <> True! Aweful. Especially since reworking
code is not granted or supported by management.
- <> This is (only) tooling problem but True.
- <> True! Especially when maintainer
(if any) don't know their component well enough... Or don't want
you to know.
- <> This is (only) tooling problem but True. see http://
www.sysdig.org/
- <>
It's more like a graph than a tree and is kind of controlled but
you are right.
- <> Abstractions
are at some level the same. With the wrong abstraction porting
can be very difficult but not impossible (as usual ;)
- <> True!
- <> because it's visible and
a particular set of abstraction not because it's visible. I got
bug reports for bugs of things handled by other components but
since it was visual it was GUI bug: 3D engine and game GUI is
completely different and don't relate that much.
- <> It's not as if they
were not stupid lower level developpers the kind of people that
think that dynamism is impossible to compile into assembly code
or not legal compiled code. There seems to be a general belief
that lower level means more difficult and more smart people.
Crazy stuff.
- <> I was asked to change my code with an algorithm
provided by the client which was worse than every code that
existed in the company so far. Instead I asked to try what was
rejected in the intial code 6 month before, turning a 3 into a 8
as the value of a timeout. I didn't sleep for 2 days before being
able to ask for it.
- <> True.
- <> Aweful. Real story: <<- Why don't we write the
GUI in C? - Because it can't abstract things easly - Why not C++
then? - Because you did not read C++ FQA?! - What is C++ FQA?>>
- <> True, but the
worse is that those are fuzzy and not handled correctly by the
contract, I mean, It's ok to have fuzzy spec but the dev (any
dev) shouldn't have cope with it all time and alone.
- <> True. Aweful.
- <> Doesn't work anyway ;)
- <> True, even if I my
company the less GUI does the more they are happy even if it's
agains't there own benefit.
Also so far the most "enlightened" or just fair with GUI people
are people who actually were building chips.
Insulted wrote:
<>
This is not about "'high' not knowing 'low'" but the other way
around. What about people who only knows about low level stuff?
What <> is meant to mean exactly? This
kind of talking is done by pseudo-technicals actually marketing
people that knows shit about what development really is. <<- We
will need a fast database - Seriously ? Dear (genius) architect,
which db shall I use? - One that stores stuff fast>>. I like
grander scale design and I liked this post and didn't feel
insulted. I would prefer being in a position to do what can be
qualified as "grander scale design" but that will not mean that I
will leave what you seem to think is a "ressource" task only to
the "ressource". And if I would like to be "architect" is not
only because I like it, it is also because so far those that I
had the occasion to see the writings or any production in general
is shit. And their skills both technical and social are shitty.
If you know some dubbed architect that doesn't qualify to the
previous description let me now.
<>
Rare? How would you know anyway? As if you need to be genius to
be architect.
I'm considering retiring from "professional" dev because of
shitty people like you.
Thanks again for the good write up Yossi Kreinin.
#40 Graham J on 04.06.14 at 7:03 am
"I'm such a great coder that I find stuff most people think it
hard, easy!"
That's all I got from this. If you're going to do something based
on its level of difficulty I would consider it more admirable to
have chosen something you deem difficult.
But why choose on that basis? I used to do pretty low level RTOS
stuff and I hated it. Everything had to be just so. That's not
hard, it's annoying.
I prefer higher levels now because my time is too valuable to be
chasing down errant bits.
YMMV.
#41 phasedephase on 06.13.14 at 10:20 am
LOL the comments are hilarious! i did some coding in Assembly
during the Precambrian era and it's easy as fuck! totally agree
with Yosef.
yosef, i must say, your blog is one the best tech blogs out
there. you make excellent points. i remember back in the day when
i just came fresh out of school, i thought, client-side GUI
development (in C++ (hey, i was young and inexperienced)) would
be more interesting than server. it's all about the interface,
man. ;)
well, that was just a few years after HTML was out and Javascript
just lurched on the scene. i took one look at the badly mutated
beast and ran for the hills!
that's when i realized i will never be a web developer unless
things improve, and i mean, improve radically. and what's it
been? almost 20 years later and it's barely starting to look
better. but the mutant doesn't give up that easily. it's like a
parasitic worm clinging to everything it touches, so much so it
has now infected the server space with that foul sticky spaghetti
blob called node.js. can you believe this shit? server-side
coding in Javascript?! WTF was ryan dahl thinking?! will the
insanity never stop? (that is the problem in this industry: too
many juveniles with no tech wisdom, ie enough experience to know
better, running around getting excited by the most worthless shit
they come across if it feeds their ego's needs for validation.
it's so bad that Google even had to hold seminars to cool down
their psychologically dysfunctional 'geniuses' and remind them
it's not about showing off who is the smartest peon in the whole
cubicle barn. it is ultimately a psychologically problem that
undermines the whole field of IT. if not, we would by now have
already had better OSs, dev environments, not to mention
languages. for god's sake, lest we forget, LISP came out in the
50s! and where are we today? still dicking around with imperative
/procedural languages (with a few exceptions, sure)) (but still...
it is annoying beyond belief.) ok end of rant.)
back then i was lucky enough that Java came out when i was
looking for my first job. needless to say, Java was more alluring
than C++ (hey, i was still young and inexperienced!) and the
server side became my new horse (i trust the reasons are obvious
;)).
but again, the mutation curse reared it's ugly head and Java
became that bloated beast we all love to hate, at least those of
us in the resistance.
one can only hope that Dart (and Polymer) or Clojurescript will
euthanize the parasite, and that Parallel Haskell, Clojure, Flow,
and Rust will eradicate the monstrosities of yesteryear (Java,
C++) or some other magnificent FP language.
until then, i walk the wilderness with a few lone gunmen still
hoping for the promised land.
#42 Curtis on 08.21.14 at 8:33 am
Most of my experience lies in front- and back-end Web development
(as a hobbyist), though I haven't done much in the past year or
so. I will say that Web development does a great job at putting
security in the forefront.
For me, my desire to learn and write code was driven by my
curiosity about how computers work, which generally kept leading
me toward lower-level concepts.
Your post here (I realize was made a long time ago) does resonate
with me. I will say the increased distance between learning stuff
and getting programs running can be a jarring contrast when
moving from higher-level environments to lower-level. There can
be several things you need to learn, in addition to, say C.
You're not far off when you say every idiot *did* pick up CSS and
PHP, but I'd say it's more accurate they picked up PHP snippets
and managed to learn just enough HTML to prevent their browsers
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+ Don't ask if a monorepo is good for you - ask if you're good
enough for a monorepo
+ Patents: how and why to get them
+ Things want to work, not punish errors
+ Hiring (self-driving algos, HLL compiler research)
+ Fun won't get it done
+ The habitat of hardware bugs
+ Looking for senior IT/DevOps people
+ A layman's view of the economy
+ Evil tip: avoid "easy" things
+ Looking for a functional safety/ISO 26262 expert (anywhere on
the globe)
+ Love thy coworker; thy work, not necessarily
+ The overblown frequency vs cost efficiency trade-off
+ People can read their manager's mind
+ Stock options: a balanced approach
+ A manager's pitfall: striving to "add value"
+ The C++ FQA is on GitHub
+ Fun with UB in C: returning uninitialized floats
+ Accidentally quadratic: rm -rf??
+ "Information asymmetry" cuts both ways
+ A "WTF is that sound" widget
+ A Sokoban levels design programming contest
+ We're hiring
+ Capital vs labor: who risks more?
+ Do company names actually matter?
+ A better future (a programmer's first animated post)
+ Sorry for having published a draft
+ A better future
+ Things from Python I'd miss in Go
+ How to make a heap profiler
+ Why bad scientific code beats code following "best practices"
+ Working simultaneously vs waiting simultaneously
+ Can your static type system handle linear algebra?
+ C++11 FQA anyone?
+ A simple way to "get more people to code"
+ Very funny, gdb. Ve-ery funny.
+ Delayed printf for real-time logging
+ Coroutines in one page of C
+ Do call yourself a programmer, and other career advice
+ How FPGAs work, and why you'll buy one
+ The bright side of dark silicon
+ Parallelism and concurrency need different tools
+ 10x more selective
+ checkedthreads: bug-free shared memory parallelism
+ Amdahl's law in reverse: the wimpy core advantage
+ Is program speed less important than X?
+ Efficiency is fundamentally at odds with elegance
+ How profilers lie: the cases of gprof and KCachegrind
+ It's "locking" if it's blocking
+ C++ template fuckwittery
+ Why custom allocators/pools are hard
+ "Value", the irksome euphemism
+ Will OpenCL help displace GPGPU? Parallella, P2012, ...
+ Do you really want to be making this much money when you're
50?
+ C as an intermediate language
+ Error codes vs exceptions: critical code vs typical code
+ Aren't side effects fundamental in complexity analysis?
+ What "Worse is Better vs The Right Thing" is really about
+ "It's done in hardware so it's cheap"
+ Work on unimportant problems
+ Hardware macroarchitecture vs mircoarchitecture
+ Email is evil
+ Which of those would you like me to write?
+ Passing shell script arguments to a subprocess
+ Why programming isn't for everyone
+ Compensation, rationality and the project/person fit
+ Cycles, memory, fuel and parking
+ Could SOPA give us back a decentralized Internet?
+ Coding standards: is consistency prettier than freedom?
+ Graham & Coase: when big companies are a good idea
+ Engineers vs managers: economics vs business
+ SIMD < SIMT < SMT: parallelism in NVIDIA GPUs
+ An unusual hardware architecture: APA (Associative Processing
Array)
+ We're hiring
+ Machine code monkey patching
+ Making data races manifest themselves
+ Leaf (upside down)
+ The Iron Fist Coding Standard
+ My history with Forth & stack machines
+ The Internet age/reputation paradox
+ If a tree falls in a forest, it kills Schrodinger's cat
+ Applied mathematics in business consulting
+ Swimming beaver
+ Lack of wealth through lack of empathy
+ API users & API wrappers
+ Digital asses in the computing industry
+ The Virtue of a Manager
+ Duck (takeoff 2)
+ Fish (front)
+ Getting the call stack without a frame pointer
+ What makes cover-up preferable to error handling
+ The C++ Sucks Series: petrifying functions
+ Coding standards: having more errors in code than code
+ The nomadic programmer
+ Humans and compilers need each other: the VLIW SIMD case
+ Halved pepper
+ Leaf (yellow)
+ Aloe
+ Pearls of wisdom
+ The C++ Sucks Series: the quest for the entry point
+ Leaf
+ The internal free market
+ Abstract (August 1999)
+ Consistency: how to defeat the purpose of IEEE floating point
+ Off topic
+ Eyes
+ Underwear
+ Lake
+ Duck (takeoff)
+ Fish
+ I want a struct linker
+ The cardinal programming jokes
+ I love globals, or Google Core Dump
+ Ahem
+ DVCS and its most vexing merge
+ Extreme Programming Explained
+ OO C is passable
+ Redundancy vs dependencies: which is worse?
+ I can't believe I'm praising Tcl
+ Python: teaching kids and biting bits don't mix
+ Side effects or not, aliasing kills you
+ Optimal processor size
+ IHateCamelCase
+ Code, data and interactive programming
+ The Algorithmic Virtual Machine
+ "High-level CPU": follow-up
+ The "high-level CPU" challenge
+ Everybody agrees with yosefk
+ Fun at the Turing tar pit
+ Interrupt? Let the Bastard handle it!
+ Why don't we have a word for it?
+ Teeth marks at the rear end
+ AI problems
+ A writer of the lame kind
+ Low-level is easy
+ Blogging is hard
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