https://unherd.com/thepost/wikipedia-co-founder-i-no-longer-trust-the-website-i-created/ [menu] About [the-post-l] Log in [byUH1] * Back to UnHerd * Contribute to UnHerd * About UnHerd * Writers * Subscribe < Previous Is the world finally going to banish malaria? Next > America's other deadly epidemic --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- by UnHerd Wednesday, 14 July 2021 [video] Share: [twitter-se] [fb-semitra] [post_arrow] Video 15:00 Wikipedia co-founder: I no longer trust the website I created Freddie Sayers spoke to Larry Sanger about why he left by UnHerd Chances are, if you've ever been on the internet, you've visited Wikipedia. It is the world's fifth largest website, pulling in an estimated 6.1 billion followers per month and serves as a cheat sheet for almost any topic in the world. So great is the online encyclopaedia's influence is so great that it is the biggest and "most read reference work in history", with as many as 56 million editions. But the truth about this supposedly neutral purveyor of information is a little more complex. Historically, Wikipedia has been written and monitored by a community of volunteers who collaborated and contested competing claims with one another. In the words of Wikipedia's co-founder, Larry Sanger who spoke to Freddie Sayers on LockdownTV, these volunteers would "battle it out". This battle of ideas on Wikipedia's platform formed a crucial part of the encyclopaedia's commitment to neutrality, which according to Sanger, was abandoned after 2009. In the years since, on issues ranging from Covid to Joe Biden, it has become increasingly partisan, primarily espousing an establishment viewpoint that increasingly represents "propaganda". This, says Sanger, is why he left the site in 2007, describing it as "broken beyond repair". On Wikipedia's Left-wing bias: You can't cite the Daily Mail at all. You can't cite Fox News on socio-political issues either. It's banned. So what does that mean? It means that if a controversy does not appear in the mainstream centre-Left media, then it's not going to appear on Wikipedia. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd On Covid: If you look at the articles that Wikipedia has, you can just see how they are simply mouthing the view of the World Economic Council or World Economic Forum, and the World Health Organisation, the CDC and various other establishment mouthpieces like Fauci -- they take their cues from them...There's a global enforcement of a certain point of view, which is amazing to me amazing to a libertarian, or a liberty-loving conservative. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd In what ways other than politics does that establishment view come across? Eastern medicine is basically called quackery in dismissive, quite judgmental, language and so forth. It's done, apparently without any compunctions at all. Then when it comes to Christianity, the viewpoint on Christianity given is the liberal one that would be found in mainline denominations and liberal Catholicism as opposed to the actual Bible-believing fundamentalist type viewpoint. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd How Wikipedia entries are distorted: There are companies like Wiki PR, where paid writers and editors will go in and change articles. Maybe there's some way to make such a system work, but not if the players who are involved and who are being paid are not identified by name -- they actually are supposed to be identified by name and say 'we represent this firm' if they are officially registered with some sort of Wikipedia editing firm. But they don't have to do that. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd Why is it happening? Because there is a lot of influence. Wikipedia is known now by everyone to have a lot of influence in the world. So there's a very big, nasty, complex game being played behind the scenes to make the article say what somebody wants them to say. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd On the takeover of Big Tech We trusted outlets like Facebook and Twitter and YouTube with our data, and allowed them essentially to take over the media world. What we trusted them with was our liberty and our privacy, that basically that they weren't going to shut us down. But they stabbed us in the back, essentially. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd Why is neutrality important? You want the tools to think about an issue...When we are trying to get some basic information in understanding a topic, we do not want to be led by the nose, right? We are free individuals who want to make up our own minds. - Larry Sanger, UnHerd [ellipse-br] Join the discussion [illustrati] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lesley van Reenen Lesley van Reenen says: July 14, 2021 at 8:45 pm I immediately checked on this and typed in 'Wikipedia and Ivermectin' and bingo.... Absolute propaganda and drivel. Quoting Merck as the mouthpiece against Ivermectin for Covid where anyone half informed knows that Merck (with Ridgeback) is completely compromised and has been given $1.2 billion by the US government to develop an anti-viral. They can't have the off-patent Ivermectin succeed. J Bryant J Bryant says: July 14, 2021 at 6:02 pm Ditto. Lesley van Reenen Lesley van Reenen says: July 14, 2021 at 8:49 pm Bret Weinstein is a liberal, a huge intellect and a man of integrity. Nothing to fault here. I must correct you about your account of his 'awakening'. He saw illogic and lack of ethics and morality and spoke out. 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