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I am not using any of them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Recently I've been spending 40-60 hours per week at my desk, and I just don't have the capacity to feel guilty for not taking care of those packages any longer. New versions and even security issues have been piling up for months (just look at the SIG's taiga board). Other people tried to step up for the "new" Java SIG (@java-maint-sig), but other than myself, nobody has been triaging new bugs in Java packages. Java package maintainers from Red Hat have been exceptionally unhelpful, and have not substantially contributed to Java packages in Fedora in years. Even the Modules that were heralded as "the solution" have stagnated. On the other hand, Mat Booth and two members of the DogTag PKI team have been really helpful, but Mat is busy fighting the Eclipse dumpster fire most of the time, and the other two have since both left Red Hat for greener pastures. And since I see no way for the situation to improve, there's only one honest thing left that I can do: I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today. Since this is the majority of remaining Java software in Fedora (~180 packages), I expect at a decent amount of dependent packages will be affected. However, given the utter lack of Java package maintainers and the pitiful state of the overall language ecosystem, I would strongly urge affected maintainers to drop dependencies on Java, if at all possible. Maybe other members of the java-maint-sig will pick up the orphaned packages, if they're still here. Or maybe it's finally time to let Java packages die. Nobody seems to care either way. 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