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+0.05% Dai 24h --------------------------------------------------------------------- $1.00 +0.000477 +0.05% Top Assets Please consider using a different web browser for better experience. story from Tech Signal Founder May Have Been More Than a Tech Adviser to MobileCoin Apr 9, 2021Updated Apr 10, 2021 MobileCoin Conflicting documents raise questions about the Signal CEO's early involvement in Mobilecoin.(Creative Commons) Colin Harper Signal Founder May Have Been More Than a Tech Adviser to MobileCoin * Signal recently launched a beta integration of MobileCoin (MOB) for payments. Its price has jumped from $7 to over $55 in the past month. * Signal founder Moxie Marlinspike, whom MobileCoin previously described as a technical adviser, may have been more deeply involved in the cryptocurrency project. * An earlier, nearly identical white paper found online, which MobileCoin CEO Joshua Goldbard called "erroneous," lists Marlinspike as the project's original CTO. The founder and CEO of encrypted messaging app Signal, Moxie Marlinspike may have been the former CTO of MobileCoin, a cryptocurrency that Signal recently integrated for in-app payments, early versions of MobileCoin technical documents suggest. MobileCoin CEO Joshua Goldbard told CoinDesk this 2017 white paper is "not something [he] or anyone at MobileCoin wrote," though it is very nearly a verbatim precursor to MobileCoin's current white paper. Additionally, snapshots of MobileCoin's homepage from Dec. 18, 2017, until April 2018, list Marlinspike as one of three members of "The Team," though his title is not given there. He is not listed as an adviser until May 2018. The team for the self-described privacy coin has always acknowledged Marlinspike as an adviser to the project, but neither the team nor Marlinspike has ever disclosed direct involvement through an in-house role, much less one so involved as Chief Technical Officer. Subscribe to , [ ]Subscribe By signing up, you will receive emails about CoinDesk products and you agree to our terms & conditions and privacy policy. If Marlinspike actually was involved as a CTO in MobileCoin's early days, the recent Signal integration raises questions of MobileCoin's motivation for associating itself with the renowned cryptographer, along with his own motive for aligning with the project, given the MOB team has historically downplayed this involvement. "Signal sold out their user base by creating and marketing a cryptocurrency based solely on their ability to sell the future tokens to a captive audience," said Bitcoin Core developer Matt Corallo, who also used to contribute to Signal's open-source software. [Screen-Shot-2021-04-09-at-2] A screenshot of MobileCoin's website frontpage on Dec. 18, 2017. Marlinspike is listed as a team member until May 2018. (Wayback Machine) Goldbard shared another document dated Nov. 13, 2017, same as the other white paper, which does not list a team for the project. He claimed that this white paper was the authentic one and the other was not. "Moxie was never CTO. A white paper we never wrote was erroneously linked to in our new book, 'The Mechanics of MobileCoin.' That erroneous white paper listed Moxie as CTO and, again, we never wrote that paper and Moxie was never CTO," Goldbard told CoinDesk. This book is actually the most recent "comprehensive, conceptual (and technical) exploration of the cryptocurrency MobileCoin" posted on the MobileCoin Foundation GitHub, which Goldbard describes as project's "source of truth" and serves as the most up-to-date technical documentation for the project. This "real" version of the paper is nearly identical to the "erroneous" white paper except there is no mention of team members or MobileCoin's pre-sale details. (Both white papers and current MobileCoin technical documents are embedded at the end of this article for reference.) Goldbard said the "erroneous" white paper was accidentally added as a footnote to this latest collection of technical documents compiled by Koe, a pseudonymous cryptographer who recently joined MobileCoin's team. That footnote also lists Marlinspike as a co-author of the paper along with Goldbard. "He just googled it, like everyone on the internet seems to be doing today, and put [it in] as a footnote. It was an oversight. I did not notice it in my review of the book prior to publishing," Goldbard told CoinDesk. A metadata analysis of the papers run by CoinDesk shows that the "erroneous" paper was generated on Dec. 9, 2017, while the "real" paper was generated two days later. [Screen-Shot-2021-04-08-at-4] A meta analysis of MobileCoin's disputed white paper.(Colin Harper) [Screen-Shot-2021-04-08-at-4] A meta analysis of MobileCoin's "real" white paper.(Colin Harper) Marlinspike declined to comment on the record about his professional relationship with MobileCoin. A tale of two papers In a December 2017 Wired article titled "The Creator of Signal Has a Plan to Fix Cryptocurrency," Marlinspike went on the record as a "technical adviser," a title CoinDesk has also used to describe his relationship with MobileCoin in the past. "There are lots of potential applications for MobileCoin, but Goldbard and Marlinspike envision it first as an integration in chat apps like Signal or WhatsApp," the article reads. It also states that "Marlinspike first experimented with [Software Guard Extensions (SGX)] for Signal." These special (and expensive) Intel SGX chips create a "secure enclave" within a device to protect software, and MobileCoin validators require them to function (validators, as in other permissioned databases, are chosen by the foundation behind MobileCoin). In the 2017 white paper that Goldbard disavows, Marlinspike is listed under the "team" section as CTO, with experience including being "the lead developer of Open Whisper Systems, [meaning] Moxie is responsible for the entirety of Signal," which had just over 10 million users at the time. This same white paper describes MobileCoin's Goldbard as a "high school dropout who thinks deeply about narratives and information systems." Signal's code has historically been open source, though this changed about a year ago; code for the MobileCoin integration was added in Signal's last beta. The nonprofit, which has five full-time employees, subsists largely on donations and has no clear revenue model, though Whatsapp co-founder Brian Acton injected $50 million into the app in 2018. A 2018 tax filing shows revenue of just over $600,000 for the fiscal year and over $100,000,000 in assets and $105,000,000 in liabilities. MobileCoin supply and other details The disavowed white paper also shows details of MobileCoin's proposed distribution, which the paper says included selling 37.5 million MOB tokens (out of a 250 million supply) in a private presale at a price of $0.80 each for a total of $30 million. Indeed, in the spring of 2018, MOB raised $30 million from crypto exchange Binance and others in such a private presale, TechCrunch's Taylor Hatmaker reported. Goldbard referred to the TechCrunch article when discussing MobileCoin's financing with CoinDesk. In a MobileCoin forum on Jan. 8, one user asked for details about MOB's circulating supply. "Supply: 250mill MOB; Circulating supply: impossible to know ('circulating' is pretty hard to define anyway)," Koe responded. MobileCoin does not currently have online tools such as a blockchain explorer to search the network for data. One user chimed in to say that because all 250 million MOB were generated from a "premine," or creation of maximum supply before launch, there's no way for users to earn them through staking or mining. "I suppose you could request donations," Koe replied. `Perhaps summing up the sense of betrayal the Signal community feels, one post simply reads, 'Et tu, Signal?'' MobileCoin's consensus model copies Stellar's, meaning only MobileCoin Foundation-approved nodes, which must run on a machine that uses the aforementioned Intel SGX chips, can partake in consensus. The white paper makes no references to rewards or payouts to validators from MOB supply. MobileCoin Token Services, an affiliate of the MobileCoin Foundation, is currently selling MOB (presumably the remaining coins that did not sell in the presale) to non-U.S. investors by taking orders over email. MOB, for now, trades on FTX and Bitfinex, two popular crypto exchanges, and a few smaller venues. When the coin began trading in January, it first listed for around $5. Now, it's worth about $55 (which, assuming a supply of 250 million MOB, gives the coin roughly the same market cap as Chainlink or Litecoin, the 10th and 9th most value cryptoassets by market cap). The coin clocked over $15 million in volume over the past 24 hours between FTX and Bitfinex, according to exchange data. Speaking to the coin's design, the founder of privacy coin monero, Richard Spagni, claimed that MobileCoin uses the privacy building blocks of his project's source code for its own design without giving credit. Who is Moxie Marlinspike? Something of a legend in cryptography circles, Marlinspike began working on Signal in 2014 after founding Open Whisper Systems in 2013. Before this, he served as Twitter's head of security after his 2010 startup, Whisper Systems, was acquired by the social network in 2011. His only on-the-record professional relationship with MobileCoin comes from his technical advisory role, which he took on in late 2017 at the height of bitcoin's last bull market and its accompanying initial coin offering bubble. Reporting on the project in 2019, the New York Times' Nathaniel Popper and Mike Isaac originally wrote that "Signal ... has its own coin in the works" before amending the article to clarify that "MobileCoin will work with Signal, but it is being developed independently of Signal." The correction seems to typify the shifting narrative of Marlinspike's and MOB's relationship across various records. (Wired's 2017 coverage, for example, says that "The Creator of Signal Has a Plan to Fix Cryptocurrency.") "I think usability is the biggest challenge with cryptocurrency today," Marlinspike told Wired in the December 2017 article. "The innovations I want to see are ones that make cryptocurrency deployable in normal environments, without sacrificing the properties that distinguish cryptocurrency from existing payment mechanisms." Signal's own users are less convinced. The app's Reddit page is plastered with submissions complaining about the decision to add MOB, with many confused as to why Signal would integrate a coin in the first place, let alone one that isn't very well known (and which only went live this year). "Using your messenger service to sit on the blockchain hype for no good reason, bloat a clean messenger app and introduce privacy concerns was more than unnecessary," one post reads. Perhaps summing up the sense of betrayal the Signal community feels, one post simply reads, "Et tu Signal?" Speaking on Moxie's involvement and the app's decision to add MOB, Anderson Kill partner Stephen Palley said, "I can't speak to the discrepancy between investor materials and what you're being told, but I don't necessarily judge them for wanting to make a buck after years of providing great open-source software basically for free." Signal first out the gate (but tripping) Other messaging apps like Telegram and Kik have tried and failed to launch in-app cryptocurrency payments by rolling their own coins. Both attempts were promptly quashed by regulators. Encrypted messaging app Keybase was the first messaging app to add cryptocurrency payments when it integrated Stellar's XLM in 2018. Given Facebook's ownership of WhatsApp, its involvement in the Libra coin project (now known as Diem) may be seen as a similar attempt. Oddly, Signal's addition of MobileCoin is the first instance of a messaging app actually pulling off a crypto integration. The question now is how many of Signal's 50 million users, many of whom aren't crypto enthusiasts, will use it. Read the official and disputed MobileCoin white papers below: Updated April 9, 2021, 13:54 UTC: This article was updated to indicate that Keybase was the first encrypted chat to integrate cryptocurrencies when it added XLM in 2018. Read more about... Token SaleMobileCoinSignalMoxie Marlinspike Disclosure The leader in blockchain news, CoinDesk is a media outlet that strives for the highest journalistic standards and abides by a strict set of editorial policies. CoinDesk is an independent operating subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which invests in cryptocurrencies and blockchain startups. 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