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Do teammates do things together outside work? If I have an idea for changing something, what's the best way to raise it? Those are questions a new member of any organizational team might have. How they get those questions answered has been a topic of interest to Dale T. Miller, Stanford Graduate School of Business professor of organizational behavior; Jennifer Dannals, who received her PhD from Stanford GSB in 2018 and is now an assistant professor at the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth; and Emily Reit, a current Stanford GSB doctoral student. "A common assumption is that people just copy the behavior of the highest-ranking leaders in a group, rather than paying attention to anyone else," Dannals says. "That's always rubbed me the wrong way, partly because I hadn't done that as a PhD student within the academic hierarchy. I believed lower-ranked people matter more in our perceptions of social norms." "Clearly, leaders have many avenues of influence," Miller says. "But in this case, we thought lower-ranking people might have an advantage." Dannals, Miller, and Reit developed a series of studies to understand where people in a group look for information on behavioral norms. Their research, which informs our understanding of broader organizational culture, is important because firms use culture to motivate employees and align them with strategy. Moreover, culture can be tied both to positive behavior and to the not-so-positive variety, such as unethical actions. "The social norms we considered here are like the building blocks or 'micro-processes' of organizational culture," Dannals says. As hypothesized, the researchers found that individuals -- at both higher and lower ranks -- seek information from lower-level peers, because they see these individuals as more attentive to social norms. Who's Your Reference Group? The researchers studied processes around group social norms from multiple angles. Importantly, they first had to create definitions of social groups and rank. Here, they decided to focus on a given individual's "reference group," or the people they saw as roughly similar to themselves within the broader group. Quote Clearly, leaders have many avenues of influence. But in this case, we thought lower-ranking people might have an advantage. Attribution Dale Miller "When I talk about this research, people often imagine a 200-person corporation, with assistants and custodial staff as the lowest level," Dannals says. "But it's about the people more at your general level. So if you're in top management of a business, your reference group would be the rest of the top team. If you're on the custodial staff, then it's the rest of that staff. Not the entire corporate hierarchy." Dannals herself, as a new professor, says her reference group would most likely be other assistant professors or non-tenured faculty within her area. The researchers also had to think about how people gain norm-related information. For example, they considered that people new to an organization or group might approach others explicitly for advice on behavioral norms, or they may rely primarily on observations of their coworkers. "Either way, they're trying to get a sense of what's appropriate," Dannals says. Looking to Lower-Level Peers However we define our reference groups and seek information within them, the researchers hypothesized that we look to lowest-level peers for behavioral cues -- even when we ourselves are higher-ranking. That's largely because lower-level people are "subject to situational pressures in a way that higher-ranking members aren't," Dannals says. "Higher-level people may be able to get away with doing whatever, so they may pay less attention to norms." The team used multiple related studies to get at whether and why group members go to lower-level peers to get enlightened about cultural norms. In one, the researchers asked employees from a mid-sized West Coast advertising firm whom they'd recommend in their reference group for information about social norms. A second study asked participants to imagine themselves as high-ranking lab members and then requested they choose an advisor from individuals at higher and lower ranks, with the belief they'd actually be working with that person. A third placed participants in the role of a new marketing team member and asked which colleagues they would trust most for advice on organizational culture, and why. The Challenge of Cultural Change The findings converged around several key insights. First, people do generally seek information on behavioral norms from lower-ranked peers within their reference group, as predicted. Moreover, individuals do this primarily because they perceive lower-level people as more attentive to social norms than others might be, rather than because they see themselves as more similar to these information sources or think lower-level people will be more honest. It's important to note that while the current research highlights lower-level group members as go-to information sources, it doesn't necessarily mean they are the *most accurate* sources. "We've only looked at who people in general think has the best information about social norms," Dannals says. "We're going to follow up this research with a project assessing who actually has the best perception; that can be a trickier question to answer." The results have multiple implications. For one, as Dannals notes, "It's encouraging to know that people at lower ranks can have more of an impact on organizational culture in some cases than leadership; it suggests the power of a grassroots approach." At the same time, however, that the keenest insight about an organization's culture is seen as residing mostly in lower-level people may suggest a challenge for leadership. "It's going to be difficult for leaders to change cultures -- even toxic ones -- alone," Dannals says. "That's because their behaviors or statements will be measured against those of lower-ranking people, who might be thinking that it's cheap talk. In general, the behavior of lower-level people in organizations may be stickier than leaders might want." In line with this, Miller encourages leaders to look at lower-ranked colleagues' behaviors to identify and modify group norms: "They may be overweighting the behavior of fellow leaders. Getting lower-level people on board may buy them more influence than they realize." Still, that's not to say all culture-related power rests in the lower ranks. "This is one organizational lever that can be pulled to change culture," Dannals says. "Others are things like whom you hire, fire, reward, and promote. Those send big messages, so you need to think about all the weights on the scale and how they come together to affect culture." Organizational Behavior , Career & Success Share this https://stanford.io/2ODV3Qr Sign up for more insights and ideas. [ ] [Go] For media inquiries, visit the Newsroom. Explore More [flynn-nega] March 12, 2021 The Positive Side of Negative Emotions The mental judo known as "cognitive reappraisal" -- minimizing the emotional impact of bad situations -- can be good for the soul but bad for the firm. Organizational Behavior [sterling-s] February 19, 2021 What's Behind the Pay Gap in STEM Jobs? Women are paid less than men for entry-level positions -- and it has nothing to do with their skill sets. Organizational Behavior [pfeffer-po] October 14, 2020 If You Want to Change the World, You Need Power (2) Cultivate your network and think strategically to rise in your career. Organizational Behavior Editor's Picks Editor's Picks A woman talking on the phone. Credit: iStock/Comeback Images Want to Learn How Things Really Work at Your New Job? Talk to the People at the Bottom A young businesswoman working on her laptop in her home office. Credit: iStock/PeopleImages Working From Home? Here's How to Be More Effective An illustration of supervisors showing empathy to their employee. Credit: Michal Bednarski Jeffrey Pfeffer: COVID-19 Changes Everything -- and Nothing -- about Managing Workers Related Related Dale T. Miller Dale Miller Professor, Organizational Behavior [screen_shot_2020-08-03_at_1] Emily Reit PhD Student Organizational Behavior Journal Article From Whom Do We Learn Group Norms? Low-Ranking Group Members are Perceived as the Best Sources Jennifer E. Dannals Emily S. Reit Dale T. Miller August 13, 2020 How Redefining "Normal" Can Alter Behavior Stanford researchers use the concept of "dynamic norms" to persuade diners to eat less meat. 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