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If our national security rests on US tech, we have no national security
Palantir is the most terrifying of the US companies but it's also just one of a whole raft of compromising, self-sabotaging deals that the UK government has entered into. The UK 'Sovereign Cloud' has been contracted out to Oracle, owned by another key Trump ally, Larry Ellison, the man whose son is behind the disastrous buyout of CBS and the upcoming US TikTok takeover. And then there are deals with OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, Salesforce, Amazon, BlackRock, Nvidia and Scale AI. And this was the "win", the brilliant triumph that Keir Starmer pulled from the jaws of defeat in the trade tariff negotiations. from Peter Thiel's New Model Army by Carole Cadwalladr [How to Survive the Broligarchy; ungated]
posted by chavenet on Jan 21, 2026 at 12:03 AM
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Actual quote from the current Home Secretary:
AI and technology can be transformative to the whole of the law and order space.
When I was in justice, my ultimate vision for that part of the criminal justice system was to achieve, by means of AI and technology, what Jeremy Bentham tried to do with his Panopticon. That is that the eyes of the state can be on you at all times.
Similarly, in the world of policing, in particular, we've already been rolling out live facial recognition technology, but I think there's big space here for being able to harness the power of AI and tech to get ahead of the criminals, frankly, which is what we're trying to do.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 3:34 AM
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I hate favoriting that quote, TheophileEscargot, but it's so important to see exactly where these fucks are looking.
posted by glaucon at 3:47 AM
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Related: The CEO of Everything: Larry Ellison's Real Rise to Power ...which talks about Oracle's role in tracking people in post-Tiananmen China, Gaza, and the US.
posted by clawsoon at 4:26 AM
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Sure, the "eyes of the state" will of course be on us but they will always be exempt. Just another example of Wilhoit's "one group the law protects but does not bind."
posted by grmpyprogrammer at 5:05 AM
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Ellison is considered a mentor to Musk, as well as an investor in his companies. The quid is pro quo'd, of course. Elon Musk was behind Palantir's selection for the DOGE project.
Back in September Trump confirmed a plan to have Tony Blair become the "governor of Gaza". Blair, with his Institute for Global Change (TBI), has been described as Ellison's "representative on earth," and Ellison's money has flowed into Blair's institute to the sum of half a billion dollars. Blair's central involvement in Trump's plan was masterminded by Jared Kushner. (Kushner apparently smoothed Ellison's path to the Tiktok deal as well).
Ellison and Oracle are deeply entwined with the Israeli government, its occupation of Palestinian territories and now genocide in Gaza. Both Ellison and his longtime CEO, Safra Catz, have been abundantly clear that Oracle backs Netanyahu's government and its actions in Gaza. "Anyone who [has] a problem with that," Catz said recently, has "a problem with us." The Nerve article goes into detail about Ellison is the biggest ever donor to the Israeli Defense Forces, had Oracle employees volunteer their time to work with Israeli ministries to create the "words of iron" social media disinformation campaign, creating fake accounts specifically targeting public figures.
My point, other than to bring in more background on Ellison, is that in him we have an individual whose involvement in huge military and political projects is both financial and highly ideological. And is not above enforcing those ideological views on his employees. What are the odds that a Starmer government (or any partner with Oracle) won't be made to bend Ellison's way?
posted by Hardcore Poser at 9:16 AM
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Have gun will travel, reads the card of a clan
A knight drenched in armor in a target land
His software for hire, heeds the calling wind
A soldier of fortune, is a clan called "
Palamir
Palamir, Palamir, where do you roam?.
Palamir, Palamir, far, far into homes.
He travels into where ever it must
A chess knight of photons is its badge of (t)rust
And there are SATphone legends that they sing
Of the clan with the wares, of the clan called Palamir.
posted by clavdivs at 1:11 PM
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> When I was in justice, my ultimate vision for that part of the criminal justice system was to achieve, by means of AI and technology, what Jeremy Bentham tried to do with his Panopticon. That is that the eyes of the state can be on you at all times.
re: bentham...
...the system of Siberian prisons were actually built by the Russian imperial regime of the 1700s. Both the czars and then the Soviets used the gulag to oppress their political opponents. These were not normal prisons designed to contain the violent, but institutions designed to exert complete control over and break the individual. And one of the individuals responsible for inventing those systems was Jeremy Bentham.
There's a strong case for Jeremy Bentham being one of the worst people ever. Bentham is famous today as a philosopher, social reformer and father of utilitarianism -- the moral philosophy that gave us effective altruism, the preferred philosophy of Sam Bankman Fried and many other Silicon Valley hucksters. But Bentham is famous for his panopticon, a special prison designed to allow just one guard to control an entire population of prisoners. The panopticon's famous circular design is actually secondary to its purpose. Central to the panopticon design is a psychological principle: that to be kept under control, people don't need to be constantly observed, they only need to believe observation is possible at any time. Think of the panopticon as the evil eye of Sauron or of Big Brother constantly watching you, two of the greatest symbols of pure evil ever imagined, and it's possible both Tolkien and Orwell had Bentham in mind when considering evil.
Bentham's panopticon was inspired by two years spent with his brother, a factory owner in Russia. Factories in this early stage of the Industrial Revolution had a problem: They had to employ almost as many supervisors to watch the workers as they employed workers. And persuading people to work in the factories at all was a struggle. For capitalism to profit, it needed a way to get people working. Bentham's ideas of a surveillance state were to be tested on prisoners. But the panopticon's true purpose was to discipline workers in factories and beyond.
Bentham remained largely unknown in his lifetime and was bitter until his death that his panopticon ideas were never inflicted on real people. Well, thank you, Jeremy Bentham. But while his prison was never built, Bentham's ideas lived on. "They make a sound as they die, a sort of choral agonized, pleading." At the heart of the terror that Narkina 5 creates is a question: Are you free? Are you a member of a free society and free to pursue life, liberty and the capitalist dream? Or are you controlled by unseen systems of discipline?
posted by kliuless at 10:09 PM
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I think these are wonderful ideas that will benefit all humanity. So long as they are used exclusively on the oligarchs, their sycophants, and the bought politicians and institutions, perhaps while permanently engaged in honorable work, in the fields or taking care of maintenance needs. And to leave the rest of us the hell alone. Think of all the crime we could prevent, as these bloodsucking vampires are the worst of humanity. And their greed is insatiable primarily as they do not have a what is commonly called a soul.
I've long thought of a sort of reciprocity is needed as a bedrock of government. Eg, if you force an insane heroin addict, with massive narcissism and a grifters hated of scientists, to be the nations heath care dictator, than you should spent the rest of your life being treated solely by said addict/grifter and his acolytes. And leave the rest of us the alone. Many more possibilities, eg republican wealth to be managed solely by Donald J Trump, advocates of mass deportations participating in a CECOT vacation, things of that nature.
posted by WatTylerJr at 9:13 AM
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And really wonderful that the party of working people in the UK is a fascists wet dream. Kinda like the US. When do Labour and Reform formally merge? Soon, I'd guess.
posted by WatTylerJr at 9:15 AM
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One of the controversies in the Netherlands right now is that the company hosting the national online ID verification service "DigiD" is being sold to an American cloud firm. The legislators in the Tweede Kamer are finally calling on "the cabinet to do everything possible to prevent Dutch DigiD data from getting into the hands of the US government". One of the proposals is for the NL government to buy the company instead, which wouldn't have been necessary if they hadn't made the classic neo-liberal mistake of false "cost savings" by outsourcing the development and hosting of the service in the first place.
posted by autopilot at 10:16 AM
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