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overthinking entertainment
IT: Welcome to Derry: In the Name of Thy Father - Season 1, Episode 6
The children and adults of Derry deal with the trauma of their venture into the sewers of the town, while more is shared about Hallorran's shining ability and Ingrid Kirsch's past.
Leroy Hanlon deals with the trauma of shooting his best friend and almost shooting his son in the worse possible manner. Ingrid Kirsch comes clean about her clowning around Derry and what she is willing to do to see her dear papa again. Hallorran drowns his abilities in alcohol after It opens the box he had forced them into years ago with his grandmother's help. Lilly, emboldened by the meteorite dagger, tries to convince the other kids they can now successfully go into the sewer and kill It, but Ronnie remains determined to stay at her father's side - hidden in the back of the Black Spot.
Richie puts his drumming skills to the test.
posted by Atreides on Dec 01, 2025 at 8:58 AM
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Well hooray for the Losers not making the worst decision possible this time. However, I do not give a damn about the now 2 fledgling tween/teen couples. Again it feels like where the plot should be getting tighter, we now are bogging it down with love interests. Also this felt like a really exposition heavy episode particularly this late in the season. Maybe I'm just in a particularly uncharitable mood because I don't feel well.
posted by miss-lapin at 7:30 PM
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Benzos AND booze?? Wow, the kids of Derry are really having some adult experiences, eh?
* Hank Grogan hiding out in the Black Spot is the WORST kept secret. Shepherd and I were like, why would they tell the other kids?? Why does everyone seem to know where he is hiding?? This is terrible!
* I'm sorry - the "twist" that Mrs Kersh is Bob Gray's daughter is dumb. I do not need this. The story does not need this.
* Huh. Marge's eye doesn't look that bad. Which is weird because she was supposed to have sawed off half of her extended eyeball.
* Also, the Black patrons aren't batting an eye at a quartet of children just hanging out in a very adult space? I would be like, heyyyyyyy, probably shouldn't be here, this is for grown-ups
* The lynch mob at the end made my heart drop as I know what happens next. Next week's episode looks like a heartbreaker and an angrymaker.
posted by Kitteh at 3:48 AM
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miss-lapin: "Also this felt like a really exposition heavy episode particularly this late in the season. Maybe I'm just in a particularly uncharitable mood because I don't feel well."
This feels like the roller coaster going up the hill before the drop. And also, hope you're feeling better soon!
Kitteh: "* Hank Grogan hiding out in the Black Spot is the WORST kept secret. Shepherd and I were like, why would they tell the other kids?? Why does everyone seem to know where he is hiding?? This is terrible!"
Seriously!
It's one thing that Ronnie is there with her dad, but then everyone else? Despite all that, I think a certain institution nurse is the source of the tip off on the Black Spot. I do question the bartender's decision to give the kids a taste of "freedom."
What's also odd is that even though the building is decommissioned...it's still on the air force base? Charlotte sneaking Hank in makes sense, but the convoy of white supremacists?
As much as I could sympathize with Leroy throughout the series, the second he slapped his son, welp, he went on the "It can eat him now" list. Charlotte packing up kind of also made me want to shout to Will to tell all the friends to just hang out on the base or outside of Derry for a while. There's a big question mark of how many people know that leaving Derry makes you safe from It (if not its machinations, aka KKK peeps), and they just let the kids, in particular, continue to go about their lives. I suppose this is It's influence on the community or ?
posted by Atreides at 7:01 AM
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It's one thing that Ronnie is there with her dad, but then everyone else? Despite all that, I think a certain institution nurse is the source of the tip off on the Black Spot. I do question the bartender's decision to give the kids a taste of "freedom."
I told Shepherd that I am not sure if it's me getting older, but I didn't find the whole "the kids asked for a Coke, but I will give them a Coke with booze in it" very cute? Funny? I am not sure what the show was going for, but I found it very unsettling. (When I was 12, a childhood friend and I were waiting at a cafe downtown for her mom to get off her kitchen manager shift, I remember one of the bartenders giving us a small glass of red wine each. At the time, I was like, ooh I am being seen as a grownup, but in hindsight, I am like, oooh that was really fucken shady of a grown man to do that to two adolescent girls.)
I am just not here for Mrs Kersh acting (of her own volition?) as a lure for Pennywise. I also guessed that she tipped off former Police Chief Bowers as to where her lover was hiding.
Shepherd agreed that Charlotte was the smartest one to pack a bag, grab her son, and head the fuck outta Maine. Obviously, that won't happen given the existence of Mike Hanlon in the future.
The Pennywise many-toothed mouth has gone past being old. "Bored now" as Dark Willow would say.
posted by Kitteh at 7:22 AM
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Kitteh: "The Pennywise many-toothed mouth has gone past being old. "Bored now" as Dark Willow would say."
Agreed. I looked away in the flashback with the child generally because I don't want to see violence happen to a child. WHICH IS VERY IRONIC GIVEN I'M WATCHING THIS SHOW I KNOW.
Kitteh: "* Huh. Marge's eye doesn't look that bad. Which is weird because she was supposed to have sawed off half of her extended eyeball."
I forgot to note on this, I figured the only real harm was done when Marge took the chisel and was hitting the area around her actual eyeball. Everything else was pretty much hallucination of sorts, her real eye didn't actually extend like a snail antennae.
Kitteh: "I am just not here for Mrs Kersh acting (of her own volition?) as a lure for Pennywise. I also guessed that she tipped off former Police Chief Bowers as to where her lover was hiding."
She just has some very, very, strong daddy issues.
posted by Atreides at 12:09 PM
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Anyone else think that one of the inscriptions on the "power shard"/dagger thing was the Dead Kennedys insignia?
posted by mabelstreet at 8:11 AM
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As mentioned above, I was gobsmacked at the rum & coke.
I am not a Black man, I am not a military man, and I am not living in a tense, racist, Maine in the 1960s.
But I think I can still be astounded that Black military men living in the same year as MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech would think it's a swell idea to let a bunch of white minors, including girls, unaccompanied by their parents, wander around an unlicensed bar, and then slip them a mickey.
While harbouring an escaped murder-fugitive, which maybe Captain Booze didn't know, but a lot of other people there sure as hell did.
That aside, the one thing that's confounding me a bit about the show is the scope of what IT is capable of. Until eps 5-6 I thought it was a little constrained in that IT could only appear in one place / to one person or small group of people at a time; IT was more or less confined to the sewers and immediate environs; IT is 90% illusions and manipulation and only manifests as a physically damaging being once IT has somebody in its thrall / in its home turf.
Maybe it's part of the cycle and IT ramps up and then winds down, but right now it feels like IT can be multiple places at once and straight-up be eating folks wherever whenever, so it does make me wonder whether this is just a really stupid alien clown demon, because if you can be in multiple places at once with magic reality powers, it sure does seem to make things difficult and slow for itslef.
posted by Shepherd at 2:23 AM
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Shepherd: "That aside, the one thing that's confounding me a bit about the show is the scope of what IT is capable of. Until eps 5-6 I thought it was a little constrained in that IT could only appear in one place / to one person or small group of people at a time; IT was more or less confined to the sewers and immediate environs; IT is 90% illusions and manipulation and only manifests as a physically damaging being once IT has somebody in its thrall / in its home turf."
This is definitely one of the rules of this universe. It's my understanding that IT is kind of a multi-dimensional creature that essentially has psychic powers, as well as a corporeal form. It can at least project itself or its fear inducing hallucinations in multiple places. The sewer invasion was a situation where it clearly was in two places at once. It's essentially a super evil multitasker.
Shepherd: "But I think I can still be astounded that Black military men living in the same year as MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech would think it's a swell idea to let a bunch of white minors, including girls, unaccompanied by their parents, wander around an unlicensed bar, and then slip them a mickey."
Reiterating this again. This is a terrible idea. The best view of this terrible line of decision making is that everyone views the Black Spot as a restaurant/business and...that doesn't even work. Bad things are coming down via the racist convoy that just pulled in.
posted by Atreides at 6:59 AM
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My review of this one: [wet fart noise]
I hope the next one is better.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:59 AM
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