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From: Joe Barbish <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: boot0cfg not USB aware
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>Number:         144280
>Category:       kern
>Synopsis:       [boot] boot0cfg not USB aware
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    vwe
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Feb 25 08:30:08 UTC 2010
>Closed-Date:    Thu Aug 19 21:51:03 UTC 2010
>Last-Modified:  Thu Aug 19 21:51:03 UTC 2010
>Originator:     Joe Barbish
>Release:        8.0 release
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
>Description:
Have boot0cfg installed on PC motherboard cabled hard drive and when I
plug in an USB cabled external hard drive or USB flash drive, (both
containing a installed full FreeBSD version) and boot the PC, the f5
key for going to the second hard drive is non-functional. Looks like
boot0cfg is not USB aware.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:


>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org,
 linimon@freebsd.org
Cc: Joe Barbish <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>,
 freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: usb/144280: boot0cfg not USB aware
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:34:31 +0100

 This is not an USB issue, but rather BIOS / boot-code related. Please change 
 responsible.
 
 --HPS
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-usb->freebsd-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: linimon 
Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Feb 25 12:16:08 UTC 2010 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
hps notes that this is boot-code-related, not USB per se. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=144280 

From: Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>
To: Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org, linimon@freebsd.org, 
 freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: usb/144280: boot0cfg not USB aware
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:08:39 +0800

 Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 > On Thursday 25 February 2010 09:29:14 Joe Barbish wrote:
 >>> Number:         144280
 >>> Category:       usb
 >>> Synopsis:       boot0cfg not USB aware
 >>> Confidential:   no
 >>> Severity:       non-critical
 >>> Priority:       low
 >>> Responsible:    freebsd-usb
 >>> State:          open
 >>> Quarter:
 >>> Keywords:
 >>> Date-Required:
 >>> Class:          sw-bug
 >>> Submitter-Id:   current-users
 >>> Arrival-Date:   Thu Feb 25 08:30:08 UTC 2010
 >>> Closed-Date:
 >>> Last-Modified:
 >>> Originator:     Joe Barbish
 >>> Release:        8.0 release
 >>> Organization:
 >> none
 >>
 >>> Environment:
 >>> Description:
 >> Have boot0cfg installed on PC motherboard cabled hard drive and when I plug
 >>  in an USB cabled external hard drive or USB flash drive, (both containing
 >>  a installed full FreeBSD version) and boot the PC, the f5 key for going to
 >>  the second hard drive is non-functional. Looks like boot0cfg is not USB
 >>  aware.
 >>
 > 
 > This is not an USB issue, but rather BIOS / boot-code related. Please change 
 > responsible.
 > 
 > --HPS
 > 
 > 
 You have a very limited view point of what is USB problem. I don't see 
 it as a bios problem. For sure the problem is in the boot0cfg code and 
 for sure IT IS A USB PROBLEM. Now if you want to change this to am 
 different group then you are welcome to do so. But as the original 
 reporter of the PR I don't have the authority to make that change.

From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
To: Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>, Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org,
        freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: usb/144280: boot0cfg not USB aware
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:11:54 +0200

 on 07/03/2010 07:08 Fbsd1 said the following:
 > Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 >> On Thursday 25 February 2010 09:29:14 Joe Barbish wrote:
 >>>> Description:
 >>> Have boot0cfg installed on PC motherboard cabled hard drive and when
 >>> I plug
 >>>  in an USB cabled external hard drive or USB flash drive, (both
 >>> containing
 >>>  a installed full FreeBSD version) and boot the PC, the f5 key for
 >>> going to
 >>>  the second hard drive is non-functional. Looks like boot0cfg is not USB
 >>>  aware.
 >>>
 >>
 >> This is not an USB issue, but rather BIOS / boot-code related. Please
 >> change responsible.
 >>
 >> --HPS
 >>
 >>
 > You have a very limited view point of what is USB problem. I don't see
 > it as a bios problem. For sure the problem is in the boot0cfg code and
 > for sure IT IS A USB PROBLEM. Now if you want to change this to am
 > different group then you are welcome to do so. But as the original
 > reporter of the PR I don't have the authority to make that change.
 
 Dear "Fbsd1" (Joe Barbish?),
 Hans meant that this is not an issue with USB kernel driver and he is totally
 correct.  usb@ assignment is for bugs with kernel USB driver only.
 BTW, bootloader doesn't have any explicit knowledge of USB either, it uses BIOS
 interface and depends on BIOS USB emulation.
 
 I think that Hans can't change the PR assignment.
 So this message is mostly for Mark :-)
 
 -- 
 Andriy Gapon

From: Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com>
To: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@FreeBSD.org>, 
 Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>,
 freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: usb/144280: boot0cfg not USB aware
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:25:32 +0800

 Andriy Gapon wrote:
 > on 07/03/2010 07:08 Fbsd1 said the following:
 >> Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 >>> On Thursday 25 February 2010 09:29:14 Joe Barbish wrote:
 >>>>> Description:
 >>>> Have boot0cfg installed on PC motherboard cabled hard drive and when
 >>>> I plug
 >>>>  in an USB cabled external hard drive or USB flash drive, (both
 >>>> containing
 >>>>  a installed full FreeBSD version) and boot the PC, the f5 key for
 >>>> going to
 >>>>  the second hard drive is non-functional. Looks like boot0cfg is not USB
 >>>>  aware.
 >>>>
 >>> This is not an USB issue, but rather BIOS / boot-code related. Please
 >>> change responsible.
 >>>
 >>> --HPS
 >>>
 >>>
 >> You have a very limited view point of what is USB problem. I don't see
 >> it as a bios problem. For sure the problem is in the boot0cfg code and
 >> for sure IT IS A USB PROBLEM. Now if you want to change this to am
 >> different group then you are welcome to do so. But as the original
 >> reporter of the PR I don't have the authority to make that change.
 > 
 > Dear "Fbsd1" (Joe Barbish?),
 > Hans meant that this is not an issue with USB kernel driver and he is totally
 > correct.  usb@ assignment is for bugs with kernel USB driver only.
 > BTW, bootloader doesn't have any explicit knowledge of USB either, it uses BIOS
 > interface and depends on BIOS USB emulation.
 > 
 > I think that Hans can't change the PR assignment.
 > So this message is mostly for Mark :-)
 > 
 
 Thank you Andriy Gapon for the courteous and informative post. May I 
 suggest that the submit-pr web page be changed by replacing the USB 
 assignment with Kernel-usb assignment. That is more in line with the USB 
 charter and would reduce the number of PR's wrongly being posted to the 
 USB assignment. So help us help you.
 
 
 
 
 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: vwe 
State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 19 21:46:54 UTC 2010 
State-Changed-Why:  
Joe, 
please check your USB boot media and your BIOS settings. boot0cfg and every other 
piece of code heavily relies on correct BIOS implementation. In your case it seems, 
the BIOS doesn't feel, your USB media might be bootable at all. 
If BIOS feels, your USB media is bootable, it will simulate it as a legacy device 
that is accessible to boot0cfg and friends. 

As this issue is clearly neither a usb(4) nor a kernel problem, we're closing this PR. 
Please feel free to write to our fine mailing lists if you have problems preparing bootable media. 


Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->vwe 
Responsible-Changed-By: vwe 
Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 19 21:46:54 UTC 2010 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
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http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=144280 
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