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Subject: 4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow
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>Number:         23548
>Category:       i386
>Synopsis:       4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Dec 14 10:10:01 PST 2000
>Closed-Date:    Tue Aug 27 15:04:32 PDT 2002
>Last-Modified:  Fri Sep 13 12:10:03 PDT 2002
>Originator:     Chris Shenton <chris@shenton.org>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

IBM ThinkPad 560X laptop, recently flashed with latest BIOS from IBM after 
suggestion from freebsd-stable. Had been running 3.x series fine for a couple
years.

>Description:

After installing 4.2-RELEASE, the internal hard disk made disk spin-up and 
spin-down kinds of noises when accessing files. It didn't do this with 3.4
which I had been running. I tried 4.1-RELEASE and had the same problem. So
I tried 3.5-RELEASE and the problem went away. Something with the 4.x series.

The spin up/down noise sounds like what it does when APM tells it to spin-
down. It make the system *VERY* slow. Doing a "config" on GENERIC kernel takes
many many times as long as it used to. Oddly, doing something like 
"ls -lR /etc" doesn't seem to be impacted -- I'm guessing it's the way 4.x
accesses the disks.

The machine is basically unusable with 4.x, and I wanted to upgrade from 3.x
to get access to my PCMCIA SCSI card.

>How-To-Repeat:

Install 4.x RELEASE from kern/mfsroot floppies, then install OS via FTP from
primary site. Reboot. You can hear this first when the OS install is doing
the "making the devices" portion of the install.

>Fix:

	


>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback 
State-Changed-By: iedowse 
State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 18 11:06:19 PST 2001 
State-Changed-Why:  

Does this problem still occur? 

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23548 

From: Ian Dowse <iedowse@maths.tcd.ie>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: i386/23548: 4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow 
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:48:25 +0000

 Adding to the audit trail:
 
 In message <87n11jafpm.fsf@thanatos.shenton.org>, Chris Shenton writes:
 ><iedowse@FreeBSD.org> writes:
 >
 >> Synopsis: 4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow
 >> 
 >> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
 >> State-Changed-By: iedowse
 >> State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 18 11:06:19 PST 2001
 >> State-Changed-Why: 
 >> 
 >> Does this problem still occur?
 >> 
 >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23548
 >
 >Yes. I have 4.4-RELEASE on it now, and it still does this.
 >Didn't happen under 3.x, nor under NT. :-(
 >
 >I first notice it during install from Floppy+FTP when it goes to make
 >the devices.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
To: chris@shenton.org
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: i386/23548: 4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 06:16:25 +0300

 In message <87n11jafpm.fsf@thanatos.shenton.org>, Chris Shenton writes:
 ><iedowse@FreeBSD.org> writes:
 >> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
 >> State-Changed-By: iedowse
 >> State-Changed-When: Sun Nov 18 11:06:19 PST 2001
 >> State-Changed-Why:
 >>>
 >>> Does this problem still occur?
 >>> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23548
 >>
 >>Yes. I have 4.4-RELEASE on it now, and it still does this.
 >>Didn't happen under 3.x, nor under NT. :-(
 >>
 >>I first notice it during install from Floppy+FTP when it goes to make
 >>the devices.
 
 Have you tried any newwer release since?
 What about 4.5-RELEASE or 4.6.2-RELEASE?
 
 - Giorgos
 

From: Chris Shenton <chris@shenton.org>
To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: i386/23548: 4.x causes Thinkpad 560X disk to spin up/down, very slow
Date: 26 Aug 2002 10:36:43 -0400

 Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org> writes:
 
 > Have you tried any newwer release since?
 > What about 4.5-RELEASE or 4.6.2-RELEASE?
 
 I can't remember what I'm running now -- 4.5-STABLE I think.  It seems
 to have fixed it, but I was also messing with IBM's utility "ps.exe"
 to tweak the power-management stuff.  I can't get to the box right now
 to verify so I'll have to get back to you.
 
 I thought I filed a PR follow-up on this a few months back when I
 installed the new OS, but can't find it. Sorry.
 
State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed 
State-Changed-By: keramida 
State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 27 15:02:37 PDT 2002 
State-Changed-Why:  
Submitter has mailed me that it's ok to close this, since he can't 
reproduce the problem on the machine that's now running 4.6-PRERELEASE. 
It is also possible that is was fixed by fiddling with IBM's ps.exe 
utility, but he can't remember if that was the case. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23548 

From: Tim Pozar <pozar@lns.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, chris@shenton.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: i386/23548: %34.x causes Thinkpad %35%36%30X disk to spin up/down, very slow
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:03:34 -0700

 I noticed this bug in the data base.  I installed two IBM Deskstar
 120GXP 120GB drive <http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/desk/ds120gxp.htm>
 a couple of months ago and found that the drives spin up and down
 on each access to the drives.
 
 I have found no help from IBM on this problem (I can send correspondence
 if requested).  Any thoughts?  Here is the detail on the OS and
 machine...
 
 Tim
 --
 > dmesg
 Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 11 06:14:12 GMT 2002
     murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
 Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
 CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x683  Stepping = 3
   Features=0x383fbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
 real memory  = 671023104 (655296K bytes)
 config> di lnc0
 config> di ie0
 config> di fe0
 config> di ed0
 config> di cs0
 config> q
 avail memory = 647217152 (632048K bytes)
 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc04d0000.
 Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc04d009c.
 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
 md0: Malloc disk
 Using $PIR table, 13 entries at 0xc00fdef0
 npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
 npx0: INT 16 interface
 pcib0: <ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
 pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
 fxp0: <Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet> port 0x1800-0x183f mem 0xfd000000-0xfd0fffff,0xfd100000-0xfd100fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0
 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:e0:18:c4:db:9c
 inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
 inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
 pci0: <ATI Mach64-GR graphics accelerator> at 7.0
 isab0: <ServerWorks IB6566 PCI to ISA bridge> at device 15.0 on pci0
 isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
 atapci0: <ServerWorks ROSB4 ATA33 controller> port 0x1840-0x184f at device 15.1 on pci0
 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
 ohci0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> mem 0xfd102000-0xfd102fff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0
 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
 usb0: <OHCI (generic) USB controller> on ohci0
 usb0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
 pcib5: <ServerWorks NB6635 3.0LE host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
 pci5: <PCI bus> on pcib5
 sym0: <896> port 0x1c00-0x1cff mem 0xfd110000-0xfd111fff,0xfd112000-0xfd1123ff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci5
 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, SE, parity checking
 sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
 sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
 sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
 sym1: <896> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xfd114000-0xfd115fff,0xfd112400-0xfd1127ff irq 9 at device 5.1 on pci5
 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
 sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
 sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
 sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
 orm0: <Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xca7ff,0xca800-0xce7ff on isa0
 fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
 atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0
 psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
 vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
 sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
 sio0: type 16550A
 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 ppc0: parallel port not found.
 ata0-slave: ATAPI identify retries exceeded
 ad2: 117800MB <IC35L120AVVA07-0> [239340/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
 ad3: 117800MB <IC35L120AVVA07-0> [239340/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
 acd0: CDROM <CD-540E> at ata0-master PIO4
 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
 (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
 (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
 sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0
 sa0: <HP C1537A L907> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
 sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 31)
 da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
 da1: <IBM DDYS-T09170N S96H> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
 da1: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C)
 da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: <HP 9.10GB C 68-BX02 BX02> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled
 da0: 8678MB (17773524 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1
>Unformatted:
