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From: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@offmyserver.com>
Reply-To: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@offmyserver.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
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>Number:         78138
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter of handbook (partitioning)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    trhodes
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Feb 27 09:40:00 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:    Fri Jan 23 01:52:42 UTC 2009
>Last-Modified:  Fri Jan 23 01:52:42 UTC 2009
>Originator:     Devon H. O'Dell
>Release:        N/A
>Organization:
Offmyserver
>Environment:
N/A

>Description:
	The handbook erroneously states that Partition Magic is the only
	known tool that can resize NTFS partitions. Since the time of that
	writing, several free and commercial tools have been developed that
	also support resizing NTFS partitions.

	This PR may be a duplicate of docs/71980, but I believe this patch
	better addresses the issue at hand.

>How-To-Repeat:
	N/A
>Fix:
	The following patch should fix this problem. I was unsure how to
        format ``Linux'' in the ``Linux LiveCD'' text where I mention
	Knoppix, so that may need to be changed. I'm also not sure if the
	links are proper. This patch should be carefully scrutinized :).

	This patch also mentions the commercial BootIT NG utility that
	was reported by Paul Colin Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org>.

--- share/sgml/trademarks.ent.old	Sat Feb 19 15:51:27 2005
+++ share/sgml/trademarks.ent	Sun Feb 27 09:20:27 2005
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 
      Please keep this file sorted.
 
-     $FreeBSD: doc/share/sgml/trademarks.ent,v 1.26 2005/02/19 15:51:27 simon Exp $
+     $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/dcvs/doc/share/sgml/trademarks.ent,v 1.26 2005/02/19 15:51:27 simon Exp $
 -->
 
 <!ENTITY tm-attrib.3com "<para>3Com and HomeConnect are registered
@@ -71,6 +71,11 @@
 <!ENTITY tm-attrib.broadcom "<para>Broadcom is a registered trademark
   of Broadcom Corporation and/or its subsidiaries.</para>">
 <!ENTITY broadcom "<trademark class='registered'>Broadcom</trademark>">
+
+<!-- http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/bootitng.pdf -->
+<!ENTITY tm-attrib.bootit "<para>BootIt, BootNow, and BurnCDCC are
+  trademarks of TeraByte Unlimited</para>">
+<!ENTITY bootit "<trademark>BootIt</trademark>">
 
 <!-- http://www.checkpoint.com/copyright.html -->
 <!ENTITY tm-attrib.check-point "<para>Check Point, Firewall-1, and
--- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml.old	Sun Feb 13 10:24:08 2005
+++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Sun Feb 27 09:20:07 2005
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 <!--
      The FreeBSD Documentation Project
 
-     $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v 1.319 2005/02/13 10:24:08 simon Exp $
+     $FreeBSD: /repoman/r/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v 1.319 2005/02/13 10:24:08 simon Exp $
 -->
 
 <chapter id="install">
@@ -269,20 +269,42 @@
 	want a graphical user interface.  If you intend to install a lot of
 	third party software as well, then you will need more space.</para>
 
-      <para>You can use a commercial tool such as <application>&partitionmagic;</application>
-	to resize your partitions to make space for
-	FreeBSD.  The <filename>tools</filename> directory on the CDROM
-	contains two free software tools which can carry out this task, namely
-	<application>FIPS</application> and
-	<application>PResizer</application>.  Documentation for both
-	of these is available in the same directory.
-	<application>FIPS</application>,
-	<application>PResizer</application>, and
-	<application>&partitionmagic;</application> can resize
-	<acronym>FAT16</acronym> and <acronym>FAT32</acronym>
-	partitions &mdash; used in &ms-dos; through &windows; ME.
-	<application>&partitionmagic;</application> is the only known
-	application that can resize <acronym>NTFS</acronym>.</para>
+      <para>Several free and commercial tools are available for resizing and
+        managing partitions. The <filename>tools</filename> directory on the
+        CDROM contains two free software tools which can carry out this task:
+        <application>FIPS</application> and <application>PResizer</application>.
+        These tools can resize FAT16 and FAT32 partitions, the filesystems
+        used in &ms-dos; through &windows; ME. Documentation for using both of
+        these tools exists in the same directory as the tools themselves.</para>
+
+      <para>Like <application>FIPS</application> and
+        <application>PResizer<application>, commercial tools such as
+        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> and
+        <application>&bootit; Next Generation</application> are available
+        for the same task. These and other similar commercial tools generally
+        support resizing a greater range of partition types than the
+        aforementioned free tools. Both
+        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> and
+        <application>&bootit; Next Generation</application> support resizing
+        NTFS partitions. NTFS is the filesystem used in &windows; NT
+        platforms, including the &windows; 2000, XP and 2003 operating
+        systems.</para>
+
+      <para>Recently, several free alternatives to these commercial tools have
+        been developed. Tools such as <application>ntfsresize</application>
+        exist and are well capable of resizing NTFS partitions.
+        <application>QTParted</application>, a
+        <application>&partitionmagic;</application> clone, provides a friendly
+        user interface useful for resizing many different partition types.
+        <application>QTParted</application> supports resizing NTFS partitions
+        through the <application>ntfsresize</application> utility.
+        <application>QTParted</application> and 
+        <application>ntfsresize</application> are available to download at
+        <ulink url="http://qtparted.sourceforge.net"></ulink> and
+        <ulink
+          url="http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html"></ulink>,
+        respectively. The <ulink url="http://www.knoppix.org">Knoppix</ulink>
+        Linux LiveCD is a bootable CD that includes QTParted.</para>
 
       <warning>
 	<para>Incorrect use of these tools can delete the data on your disk.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@offmyserver.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, dodell@offmyserver.com
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation
	chapter
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:27:53 +0100

 Oops, I forgot a period in the trademarks.ent :)
 
 --Devon
 

From: Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
To: "Devon H. O'Dell" <dodell@offmyserver.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:56:11 -0800

 Hi Devon, this is good information but I'd like to describe a more
 FreeBSD friendly way of doing this.  Can we provide ntfsresize on a
 FreeBSD live CD?
 
 	- Murray
 
From: "Devon H. O'Dell " <dodell@offmyserver.com>
To: Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:16:54 +0100

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 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:56:11AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
 > Hi Devon, this is good information but I'd like to describe a more
 > FreeBSD friendly way of doing this.  Can we provide ntfsresize on a
 > FreeBSD live CD?
 >=20
 > 	- Murray
 
 I don't think so. The ntfsresize program is GPLed and relies heavily
 on the Linux NTFS project code. I don't know enough about NTFS or=20
 VFS to be able to say that it wouldn't be portable, but I think that
 there'd definitely be a lot of work involved.
 
 Until then, I'm afraid there's not a better way. I'd do it, but it
 will probably take a while for me to learn it and I've got other
 priorities at the moment.
 
 --Devon
 
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From: Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
To: "Devon H. O'Dell " <dodell@offmyserver.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:36:30 -0800

 It is actually in the ports tree as sysutils/ntfsprogs.  I've got a
 patch to add it to the livecd but I think it's moot because there is
 only space on DVDs.  I'll run a build and see what kind of
 dependencies the package pulls in.
 
 	     - Murray
 
 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 05:16:54PM +0100, Devon H. O'Dell  wrote:
 > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:56:11AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
 > > Hi Devon, this is good information but I'd like to describe a more
 > > FreeBSD friendly way of doing this.  Can we provide ntfsresize on a
 > > FreeBSD live CD?
 > > 
 > > 	- Murray
 > 
 > I don't think so. The ntfsresize program is GPLed and relies heavily
 > on the Linux NTFS project code. I don't know enough about NTFS or 
 > VFS to be able to say that it wouldn't be portable, but I think that
 > there'd definitely be a lot of work involved.
 > 
 > Until then, I'm afraid there's not a better way. I'd do it, but it
 > will probably take a while for me to learn it and I've got other
 > priorities at the moment.
 > 
 > --Devon
 
 

From: "Devon H. O'Dell " <dodell@offmyserver.com>
To: Murray Stokely <murray@freebsdmall.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/78138: Error in pre-installation section of installation chapter
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:22:38 +0100

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 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 08:36:30AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
 > It is actually in the ports tree as sysutils/ntfsprogs.  I've got a
 > patch to add it to the livecd but I think it's moot because there is
 > only space on DVDs.  I'll run a build and see what kind of
 > dependencies the package pulls in.
 >=20
 > 	     - Murray
 
 Okay, I totally didn't see that. I don't think it has any dependencies
 other than Gnome VFS if you select that and GCC34 to build if you're on
 4.x. Is the Gnome VFS stuff necessary for the resizer to work?
 
 --Devon
 
 > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 05:16:54PM +0100, Devon H. O'Dell  wrote:
 > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:56:11AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
 > > > Hi Devon, this is good information but I'd like to describe a more
 > > > FreeBSD friendly way of doing this.  Can we provide ntfsresize on a
 > > > FreeBSD live CD?
 > > >=20
 > > > 	- Murray
 > >=20
 > > I don't think so. The ntfsresize program is GPLed and relies heavily
 > > on the Linux NTFS project code. I don't know enough about NTFS or=20
 > > VFS to be able to say that it wouldn't be portable, but I think that
 > > there'd definitely be a lot of work involved.
 > >=20
 > > Until then, I'm afraid there's not a better way. I'd do it, but it
 > > will probably take a while for me to learn it and I've got other
 > > priorities at the moment.
 > >=20
 > > --Devon
 >=20
 >=20
 >=20
 > !DSPAM:423aff6a729652379665326!
 >=20
 
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State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: trhodes 
State-Changed-When: Fri Jan 23 01:50:35 UTC 2009 
State-Changed-Why:  
Information on the LiveCD has since been added to the 
handbook.  The current text appears to satisfy this PR, 
close it.  Thanks Devon! 


Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes 
Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes 
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jan 23 01:50:35 UTC 2009 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Over to me. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=78138 
>Unformatted:
