From nobody@FreeBSD.org  Mon Jan 10 14:36:51 2005
Return-Path: <nobody@FreeBSD.org>
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE4416A4CE
	for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:51 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C4543D53
	for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:51 +0000 (GMT)
	(envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org)
Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0AEaoNM042730
	for <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:50 GMT
	(envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org)
Received: (from nobody@localhost)
	by www.freebsd.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0AEao6w042729;
	Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:50 GMT
	(envelope-from nobody)
Message-Id: <200501101436.j0AEao6w042729@www.freebsd.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:36:50 GMT
From: John Lind <john@starfire.mn.org>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.3

>Number:         76057
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jan 10 14:40:21 GMT 2005
>Closed-Date:    Mon Feb 28 19:47:26 GMT 2005
>Last-Modified:  Mon Feb 28 19:47:26 GMT 2005
>Originator:     John Lind
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD pearl.starfire.mn.org 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Jan  9 16:16:16 CST 2005     root@dauntless.starfire.mn.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386    
>Description:
The method given in the handbook for acquiring OpenOffice doesn't work - I guess I'm not completely sure if this is a problem with the Handbook, or the OpenOffice package maintainers, but regardless, the current documentation gives a method that doesn't work.  The specific page I am looking at is http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-productivity.html which I believe to be the current Section 6.3 of the Handbook (Desktop Applications / Productivity)
pkg_add -r openoffice
Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/Latest/openoffice.tbz' by URL


>How-To-Repeat:
pkg_add -r openoffice
>Fix:
      
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, john@starfire.mn.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't
 work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:32:20 +0100

 Hi guys,
 
 I created a patch that might solve this PR.
 
 Does anyone have suggestions in how i can do this better?
 
 the diff:
 
 Index: chapter.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: 
 /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.50
 diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 14:05:28 -0000
 @@ -631,9 +631,10 @@
          Porting Team</ulink>'s web site.</para>
 
         <para>To install <application>OpenOffice.org</application>,
 -        do:</para>
 +       download the appropriate package from the FreeBSD OpenOffice
 +       Porting Team web site.  Then install the package:</para>
 
 -      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r 
 openoffice</userinput></screen>
 +      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add 
 <replaceable>openoffice_install.tgz</replaceable></userinput></screen>
 
         <para>Once the package is installed, you must run the setup
           program and choose a <option>standard workstation 
 installation</option>.
 
 
 -- 
 Kind regards,
 
       Remko Lodder  ** remko@elvandar.org
       Reporter DSINET  **  remko@DSINet.org
       Founder Tienervaders  ** remko@tienervaders.org
       FreeBSD Documentation Project  ** remko@FreeBSD.org

From: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
To: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:59:56 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 02:40:15PM +0000, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR docs/76057; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
 > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, john@starfire.mn.org
 > Cc:  
 > Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't
 >  work
 > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:32:20 +0100
 > 
 >  Hi guys,
 >  
 >  I created a patch that might solve this PR.
 >  
 >  Does anyone have suggestions in how i can do this better?
 >  
 >  the diff:
 >  
 >  Index: chapter.sgml
 >  ===================================================================
 >  RCS file: 
 >  /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 >  retrieving revision 1.50
 >  diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 >  --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 >  +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 14:05:28 -0000
 >  @@ -631,9 +631,10 @@
 >           Porting Team</ulink>'s web site.</para>
 >  
 >          <para>To install <application>OpenOffice.org</application>,
 >  -        do:</para>
 >  +       download the appropriate package from the FreeBSD OpenOffice
 >  +       Porting Team web site.  Then install the package:</para>
 >  
 >  -      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r 
 >  openoffice</userinput></screen>
 >  +      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add 
 >  <replaceable>openoffice_install.tgz</replaceable></userinput></screen>
 >
 
 If you run a -RELEASE the "remote package" exists.  It should be more
 interesting to keep the current text and add a note to point people (and
 persons using something else than -RELEASE) on
 http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ for up to date packages.  No need
 to give the pkg_add(8) command line since the reader should be able to
 adapt the previous example and since the package name may vary a lot
 (look at
 http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/).
 
 Marc

From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:20:14 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 03:59:56PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
 > On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 02:40:15PM +0000, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > > The following reply was made to PR docs/76057; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > > 
 > > From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
 > > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, john@starfire.mn.org
 > > Cc:  
 > > Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't
 > >  work
 > > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:32:20 +0100
 > > 
 > >  Hi guys,
 > >  
 > >  I created a patch that might solve this PR.
 > >  
 > >  Does anyone have suggestions in how i can do this better?
 > >  
 > >  the diff:
 > >  
 > >  Index: chapter.sgml
 > >  ===================================================================
 > >  RCS file: 
 > >  /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 > >  retrieving revision 1.50
 > >  diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 > >  --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 > >  +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 14:05:28 -0000
 > >  @@ -631,9 +631,10 @@
 > >           Porting Team</ulink>'s web site.</para>
 > >  
 > >          <para>To install <application>OpenOffice.org</application>,
 > >  -        do:</para>
 > >  +       download the appropriate package from the FreeBSD OpenOffice
 > >  +       Porting Team web site.  Then install the package:</para>
 > >  
 > >  -      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r 
 > >  openoffice</userinput></screen>
 > >  +      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add 
 > >  <replaceable>openoffice_install.tgz</replaceable></userinput></screen>
 > >
 > 
 > If you run a -RELEASE the "remote package" exists.  It should be more
 > interesting to keep the current text and add a note to point people (and
 > persons using something else than -RELEASE) on
 > http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/ for up to date packages.  No need
 > to give the pkg_add(8) command line since the reader should be able to
 > adapt the previous example and since the package name may vary a lot
 > (look at
 > http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/).
 > 
 > Marc
 
 Hi Marc!
 
 Thanks for the feedback, i worked out your comments and this is the result:
 
 Index: chapter.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.50
 diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 15:18:10 -0000
 @@ -635,6 +635,14 @@
  
        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
  
 +      <note>
 +        <para>If you are <emphasis>not</emphasis> running a -RELEASE
 +         version of &os; this might not work.  You should then look on
 +         the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web site and download the
 +         appropriate package and install the package using
 +         &man.pkg_add.1;.</para>
 +      </note>
 +
        <para>Once the package is installed, you must run the setup
          program and choose a <option>standard workstation installation</option>.
          Run this command as the user who will use
 
 What do you think about that?
 -- 
 Kind regards,
 
      Remko Lodder  ** remko@elvandar.org
      Reporter DSINET  **  remko@DSINet.org
      Founder Tienervaders  ** remko@tienervaders.org
      FreeBSD Documentation Project  ** remko@FreeBSD.org

From: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
To: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:51:09 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 04:20:14PM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Marc!
 > 
 > Thanks for the feedback, i worked out your comments and this is the result:
 > 
 > Index: chapter.sgml
 > ===================================================================
 > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 > retrieving revision 1.50
 > diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 > --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 > +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 15:18:10 -0000
 > @@ -635,6 +635,14 @@
 >  
 >        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
 >  
 > +      <note>
 > +        <para>If you are <emphasis>not</emphasis> running a -RELEASE
 > +         version of &os; this might not work.  You should then look on
 > +         the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web site and download the
 > +         appropriate package and install the package using
 > +         &man.pkg_add.1;.</para>
 > +      </note>
 > +
 >        <para>Once the package is installed, you must run the setup
 >          program and choose a <option>standard workstation installation</option>.
 >          Run this command as the user who will use
 > 
 > What do you think about that?
 
 Maybe you should mention that the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web
 site is also the place where to find last (up to date and devel) version
 of the package.
 
 Marc

From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:16:49 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 04:51:09PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
 > On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 04:20:14PM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > > 
 > > Hi Marc!
 > > 
 > > Thanks for the feedback, i worked out your comments and this is the result:
 > Maybe you should mention that the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web
 > site is also the place where to find last (up to date and devel) version
 > of the package.
 > 
 > Marc
 >
 
 So that would make the below diff? :-)
 
 Index: chapter.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.50
 diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 15:54:46 -0000
 @@ -635,6 +635,15 @@
  
        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
  
 +      <note>
 +        <para>If you are <emphasis>not</emphasis> running a -RELEASE
 +         version of &os; this might not work.  You should then look on
 +         the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web site and download the
 +         appropriate package and install the package using
 +         &man.pkg_add.1;.  You will also find the latest version and
 +         the latest development version here.</para>
 +      </note>
 +
        <para>Once the package is installed, you must run the setup
          program and choose a <option>standard workstation installation</option>.
          Run this command as the user who will use
 
 
 -- 
 Kind regards,
 
      Remko Lodder  ** remko@elvandar.org
      Reporter DSINET  **  remko@DSINet.org
      Founder Tienervaders  ** remko@tienervaders.org
      FreeBSD Documentation Project  ** remko@FreeBSD.org

From: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
To: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:12:42 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 05:16:49PM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > 
 > So that would make the below diff? :-)
 > 
 > Index: chapter.sgml
 > ===================================================================
 > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 > retrieving revision 1.50
 > diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 > --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 > +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 15:54:46 -0000
 > @@ -635,6 +635,15 @@
 >  
 >        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
 >  
 > +      <note>
 > +        <para>If you are <emphasis>not</emphasis> running a -RELEASE
 > +         version of &os; this might not work.  You should then look on
 > +         the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web site and download the
 > +         appropriate package and install the package using
 > +         &man.pkg_add.1;.  You will also find the latest version and
 > +         the latest development version here.</para>
 > +      </note>
 
 Maybe I'm picky but I'm not sure about the use of "here" (there?),
 perhaps the last sentence may be reworded in "You will also find the
 latest production and developement versions...".  I dunno, someone with
 better english skills should correct me.
 
 Marc

From: Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
To: Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/76057: Handbook method for obtaining OpenOffice doesn't work
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:59:51 +0100

 On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 07:12:42PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
 > On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 05:16:49PM +0100, Remko Lodder wrote:
 > > 
 > > So that would make the below diff? :-)
 > > 
 > > Index: chapter.sgml
 > > ===================================================================
 > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 > > retrieving revision 1.50
 > > diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 > > --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 > > +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 15:54:46 -0000
 > > @@ -635,6 +635,15 @@
 > >  
 > >        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
 > >  
 > > +      <note>
 > > +        <para>If you are <emphasis>not</emphasis> running a -RELEASE
 > > +         version of &os; this might not work.  You should then look on
 > > +         the FreeBSD OpenOffice Porting Team web site and download the
 > > +         appropriate package and install the package using
 > > +         &man.pkg_add.1;.  You will also find the latest version and
 > > +         the latest development version here.</para>
 > > +      </note>
 > 
 > Maybe I'm picky but I'm not sure about the use of "here" (there?),
 > perhaps the last sentence may be reworded in "You will also find the
 > latest production and developement versions...".  I dunno, someone with
 > better english skills should correct me.
 > 
 > Marc
 
 Marc,
 
 Yes you are picky :) but that is not a problem :-)
 
 I discussed this on #bsddocs and we came up with the following:
 
 Index: chapter.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.50
 diff -u -r1.50 chapter.sgml
 --- chapter.sgml        20 Feb 2005 12:51:33 -0000      1.50
 +++ chapter.sgml        27 Feb 2005 21:56:39 -0000
 @@ -635,6 +635,15 @@
  
        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>pkg_add -r openoffice</userinput></screen>
  
 +      <note>
 +        <para>When running a -RELEASE version of &os; this will work.
 +         Otherwise you should look on the &os; OpenOffice Porting Team
 +         web site and download and install the appropriate package
 +         using &man.pkg_add.1;.  Both the current release and
 +         development version are available for download at this
 +         site.</para>
 +      </note>
 +
        <para>Once the package is installed, you must run the setup
          program and choose a <option>standard workstation installation</option>.
          Run this command as the user who will use
 -- 
 Kind regards,
 
      Remko Lodder  ** remko@elvandar.org
      Reporter DSINET  **  remko@DSINet.org
      Founder Tienervaders  ** remko@tienervaders.org
      FreeBSD Documentation Project  ** remko@FreeBSD.org
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: remko 
State-Changed-When: Mon Feb 28 19:46:43 GMT 2005 
State-Changed-Why:  
I updated the part about openoffice. This should solve the mentioned problem. 
Thanks for the report! 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=76057 
>Unformatted:
