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From: Joel Dahl <joel@automatvapen.se>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: [PATCH] add note about cvsup
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>Number:         70124
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] add note about cvsup
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Aug 07 12:50:23 GMT 2004
>Closed-Date:    Tue Aug 10 17:33:00 GMT 2004
>Last-Modified:  Tue Aug 10 17:33:00 GMT 2004
>Originator:     Joel Dahl
>Release:        5.2.1
>Organization:
n/a
>Environment:
FreeBSD dude.automatvapen.se 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 #1: Sat Jul 10 16:52:28 CEST 2004     root@dude.automatvapen.se:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WORKSTATION  i386
>Description:
I get this question all the time, "Why is CVSup not in the base installation of FreeBSD", so maybe we should include it in the FAQ? This patch does that.   
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a      
>Fix:
http://www.automatvapen.se/freebsd/patches/cvsup.patch     
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: Joel Dahl <joel@automatvapen.se>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/70124: [PATCH] add note about cvsup
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:39:33 +0300

 On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:48:53PM +0000, Joel Dahl wrote:
 > 
 > >Number:         70124
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       [PATCH] add note about cvsup
 > >Description:
 > I get this question all the time, "Why is CVSup not in the base
 > installation of FreeBSD", so maybe we should include it in the FAQ?
 > This patch does that.   
 
 What do you think about the following patch, which explains the problem
 a bit more thoroughly? :)
 
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
 Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.639
 diff -u -r1.639 book.sgml
 --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml	9 Aug 2004 19:49:17 -0000	1.639
 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml	10 Aug 2004 10:37:45 -0000
 @@ -5060,6 +5060,30 @@
        </qandaentry>
  
        <qandaentry>
 +        <question id="cvsup-in-base">
 +	  <para>Why is CVSup not integrated in the main FreeBSD tree?
 +	  </para>
 +	</question>
 +
 +	<answer>
 +	  <para>The FreeBSD base system is designed as self-hosting - it
 +	    should be possible to build the whole operating system starting
 +	    with a very limited set of tools.  Thus, the actual build tools
 +	    needed to compile the FreeBSD sources are bundled with the
 +	    sources themselves.  This includes a C compiler (&man.gcc.1;),
 +	    &man.make.1;, &man.awk.1;, and similar tools.</para>
 +
 +	  <para>Since CVSup is written in Modula-3, adding it to the FreeBSD
 +	    base system would also require adding and maintaining a Modula-3
 +	    compiler.  This would lead to both a growth in the disk space
 +	    consumed by the FreeBSD sources and additional maintenance work.
 +	    Thus, it is much easier for both the developers and users to
 +	    keep CVSup as a separate port, which can be easily installed as
 +	    a package bundled on the FreeBSD installation CD's.</para>
 +	</answer>
 +      </qandaentry>
 +
 +      <qandaentry>
          <question id="ports-update">
             <para>I updated the sources, now how do I update my installed
               ports?</para>
 
 -- 
 Peter Pentchev	roam@ringlet.net    roam@cnsys.bg    roam@FreeBSD.org
 PGP key:	http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc
 Key fingerprint	FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E  DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553
 If the meanings of 'true' and 'false' were switched, then this sentence wouldn't be false.

From: Joel Dahl <joel@automatvapen.se>
To: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/70124: [PATCH] add note about cvsup
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:15:45 +0200

 Tis 2004-08-10 klockan 12.39 skrev Peter Pentchev:
 > On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:48:53PM +0000, Joel Dahl wrote:
 > > 
 > > >Number:         70124
 > > >Category:       docs
 > > >Synopsis:       [PATCH] add note about cvsup
 > > >Description:
 > > I get this question all the time, "Why is CVSup not in the base
 > > installation of FreeBSD", so maybe we should include it in the FAQ?
 > > This patch does that.   
 > 
 > What do you think about the following patch, which explains the problem
 > a bit more thoroughly? :)
 > 
 > G'luck,
 > Peter
 > 
 > Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml
 > ===================================================================
 > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v
 > retrieving revision 1.639
 > diff -u -r1.639 book.sgml
 > --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml	9 Aug 2004 19:49:17 -0000	1.639
 > +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml	10 Aug 2004 10:37:45 -0000
 > @@ -5060,6 +5060,30 @@
 >        </qandaentry>
 >  
 >        <qandaentry>
 > +        <question id="cvsup-in-base">
 > +	  <para>Why is CVSup not integrated in the main FreeBSD tree?
 > +	  </para>
 > +	</question>
 > +
 > +	<answer>
 > +	  <para>The FreeBSD base system is designed as self-hosting - it
 > +	    should be possible to build the whole operating system starting
 > +	    with a very limited set of tools.  Thus, the actual build tools
 > +	    needed to compile the FreeBSD sources are bundled with the
 > +	    sources themselves.  This includes a C compiler (&man.gcc.1;),
 > +	    &man.make.1;, &man.awk.1;, and similar tools.</para>
 > +
 > +	  <para>Since CVSup is written in Modula-3, adding it to the FreeBSD
 > +	    base system would also require adding and maintaining a Modula-3
 > +	    compiler.  This would lead to both a growth in the disk space
 > +	    consumed by the FreeBSD sources and additional maintenance work.
 > +	    Thus, it is much easier for both the developers and users to
 > +	    keep CVSup as a separate port, which can be easily installed as
 > +	    a package bundled on the FreeBSD installation CD's.</para>
 > +	</answer>
 > +      </qandaentry>
 > +
 > +      <qandaentry>
 >          <question id="ports-update">
 >             <para>I updated the sources, now how do I update my installed
 >               ports?</para>
 
 This looks a lot better than my minimalistic patch. Thanks! :)
 
 -- 
 Joel
 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: roam 
State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 10 17:32:34 GMT 2004 
State-Changed-Why:  
I committed my version of the patch.  Thanks! 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70124 
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