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From: Jerry Dunham <jdunham@m3designinc.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3)
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>Number:         41820
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Device driver confusion in Handbook (section 2.3)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    remko
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Aug 20 10:10:03 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:    Tue Aug 29 19:40:46 GMT 2006
>Last-Modified:  Tue Aug 29 19:40:46 GMT 2006
>Originator:     Jerry Dunham
>Release:        4.6
>Organization:
M3 Design, Inc.
>Environment:
Not finished installing yet.  It can't find my SCSI CDD.
>Description:
      I'm installing 4.6, working from the Handbook for the first time.
As I worked through section 2.3 I found that the Active-drivers screen,
with its long list of conflicting hardware I'd never seen before, conflicted
with the device probe screen that followed.  A friend informed me that the
first screen was attempting (and not well) to deal with ISA cards (of which
I have none) and the device probe screen was attempting (and doing well)
to deal with PCI cards.  I would never have figured this out from the
explanation in 2.3, and spent some time frozen at that point of the install
before I learned that all was really okay.
>How-To-Repeat:
      Install 4.6 on a PCI system working from the Handbook, section 2.3.
>Fix:
      Add some explanation of the two different device driver screens and
explain that if you have a PCI-only machine you don't really need to worry
about what shows in the Active-drivers screen.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Josh Paetzel <friar_josh@webwarrior.net>
To: Jerry Dunham <jdunham@m3designinc.com>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/41820: Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3)
Date: 20 Aug 2002 17:29:18 +0000

 I think this is a case of information overload.  This section of the
 handbook contains an incredible amount of information, and attempting to
 be completely comprehensive would make it even worse.  With today's
 hardware, 99% of the FreeBSD installs could choose skip kernel config,
 and the GENERIC kernel would probe everything just fine.  The only
 people that really need to deal with the visual config at all are those
 that are either installing from a scsi cdrom hanging on a antique ISA
 host adapter, or those who are installing from an ISA NIC.  Perhaps we
 could put in a disclaimer at the top of the section, "If you are
 installing on a machine with PCI/AGP/Onboard devices only, please pick
 skip kernel configuration, and jump to section 2.3.3"

 My .02 on the issue.

 Josh

From: Jerry Dunham <jdunham@m3designinc.com>
To: friar_josh@webwarrior.net
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Grog@lemis.com,
	Wes@softweyr.com
Subject: Re: docs/41820: Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:33:15 -0500

 I agree with the disclaimer completely.  I say, "Do it!"  It would have
 saved me time and a couple of e-mail messages.  I can't imagine how it
 would hurt anyone.

 Thanks!
 --
 Jerry Dunham
 M3 Design, Inc.
 jdunham@m3designinc.com
 (512) 218-8858
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: remko 
State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 29 19:39:46 UTC 2006 
State-Changed-Why:  
The section had been rewritten and the information cannot be 
found any longer. 

Reported by:	Niclas Zeising on freebsd-doc 


Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->remko 
Responsible-Changed-By: remko 
Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 29 19:39:46 UTC 2006 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Grab the PR since I closed it, so I should be responsible. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41820 
>Unformatted:
