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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 05:46:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dirk Gouders <gouders@et.bocholt.fh-ge.de>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Incomplete answer to question 14.8.
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>Number:         39511
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Incomplete answer to question 14.8.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    keramida
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jun 19 05:50:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:    Thu Jun 27 17:33:13 PDT 2002
>Last-Modified:  Thu Jun 27 17:33:13 PDT 2002
>Originator:     Dirk Gouders
>Release:        4.5-RELEASE
>Organization:
FH Gelsenkirchen, Abt. Bocholt
>Environment:
FreeBSD musashi 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #11: Sat Feb 23 00:51:59 CET 2002     root@musashi:/usr/src/sys/compile/MUSASHI  i386
>Description:
The answer to question 14.8 seems to be incomplete.  It ends with a colon
and the reader expects that two possible solutions will be presented...
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
      
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
To: Dirk Gouders <gouders@et.bocholt.fh-ge.de>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/39511: Incomplete answer to question 14.8.
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:17:30 +0300

 On 2002-06-19 05:46 +0000, Dirk Gouders wrote:
 > The answer to question 14.8 seems to be incomplete.  It ends with a
 > colon and the reader expects that two possible solutions will be
 > presented...
 
 What question?  Where did you see this?
 
 - Giorgos
 

From: Dirk GOUDERS <gouders@et.bocholt.fh-ge.de>
To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/39511: Incomplete answer to question 14.8. 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:11:07 +0200

 In message "Re: docs/39511: Incomplete answer to question 14.8.",
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  > On 2002-06-19 05:46 +0000, Dirk Gouders wrote:
  > > The answer to question 14.8 seems to be incomplete.  It ends with a
  > > colon and the reader expects that two possible solutions will be
  > > presented...
  > 
  > What question?  Where did you see this?
 
 I saw this in question 14.8 (attached is a copy of it).  The last
 sentence of entry 14.8 ends with a colon what makes the reader (at
 least me) expecting a discription of the two possibilities, but what
 follows is the next entry 14.9.
 
 Oh -- while I am writing this I am realizing that the description of
 the two possibilities are the following entries 14.9 and 14.10...
 
 OK, I would suggest to either close this PR, because there is no
 problem or, if you also think the last sentence of entry 14.8 could
 lead to confusion, modify it so that it explicitely says that the two
 following entries belong to the answer, e.g.:
 
     Having established whether the problem is local or remote, you now
     have two possibilities:
 
     1) If the problem is remote, read on entry 14.9
 
     2) If the problem is local, read on entry 14.10
 
 
 Dirk
 
 
 [excerpt from FAQ]
 
 14.8. Why does my connection hang after a random amount of time?
 
       Many people experience hung connections with no apparent
       explanation. The first thing to establish is which side of the
       link is hung.
 
       If you are using an external modem, you can simply try using
       ping(8) to see if the TD light is flashing when you transmit
       data. If it flashes (and the RD light does not), the problem is
       with the remote end. If TD does not flash, the problem is
       local. With an internal modem, you will need to use the set
       server command in your ppp.conf file. When the hang occurs,
       connect to ppp(8) using pppctl(8). If your network connection
       suddenly revives (PPP was revived due to the activity on the
       diagnostic socket) or if you cannot connect (assuming the set
       socket command succeeded at startup time), the problem is
       local. If you can connect and things are still hung, enable
       local async logging with set log local async and use ping(8)
       from another window or terminal to make use of the link. The
       async logging will show you the data being transmitted and
       received on the link. If data is going out and not coming back,
       the problem is remote.
 
       Having established whether the problem is local or remote, you
       now have two possibilities:
 
 14.9. The remote end is not responding. What can I do?
 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: keramida 
State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 27 17:30:20 PDT 2002 
State-Changed-Why:  
Fixed already :) 
Thanks for submitting this. 


Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida 
Responsible-Changed-By: keramida 
Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Jun 27 17:30:20 PDT 2002 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39511 
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