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From: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
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Subject: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website
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>Number:         32578
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Dec 07 06:50:01 PST 2001
>Closed-Date:    Mon Aug 26 17:09:36 PDT 2002
>Last-Modified:  Mon Aug 26 17:09:36 PDT 2002
>Originator:     Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 5 00:48:29 GMT 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386


http://www.FreeBSD.org
>Description:
	
The bulletpoint list on the home page of www.FreeBSD.org contains a list of
some of the good points regarding FreeBSD.

I believe that one of them therefore contains a grammatical error.
Consider the implied notions :

1. (FreeBSD has) Cutting edge features
2. (FreeBSD has) Powerful Internet solutions
3. (FreeBSD can) Run a huge a variety of applications
4. (FreeBSD is)  Easy to install

I don't like number 3.

Ceri

>How-To-Repeat:
	Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org in a browser.
>Fix:

--- www/en/index.xsl.old	Fri Dec  7 14:29:23 2001
+++ www/en/index.xsl	Fri Dec  7 14:33:16 2001
@@ -250,7 +250,7 @@
 		<a href="gallery/gallery.html">gallery</a> for examples of
 		FreeBSD powered applications and services.</p>
 	    
-	      <h2><font color="#990000">Run a huge variety of
+	      <h2><font color="#990000">Runs a huge variety of
 		  applications</font></h2>
 	    
 	      <p>The quality of FreeBSD combined with today's low-cost,
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Chern Lee <chern@FreeBSD.org>
To: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
Cc: <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the
 website
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:35:32 -0800 (PST)

 I'm not sure if I follow what you are trying to say...
 
 (FreeBSD can) run a huge variety of applications.  This makes perfect
 sense.  But these are not complete sentence, just fragments.
 
 (FreeBSD) runs a huge variety of applications. - makes sense
 
 As a fragment, both run and runs make sense, because they can be prefixed
 with something to make it complete.
 
 I think it's fine the way it is.
 
 - chern
 
 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ceri wrote:
 
 > The bulletpoint list on the home page of www.FreeBSD.org contains a list of
 > some of the good points regarding FreeBSD.
 >
 > I believe that one of them therefore contains a grammatical error.
 > Consider the implied notions :
 >
 > 1. (FreeBSD has) Cutting edge features
 > 2. (FreeBSD has) Powerful Internet solutions
 > 3. (FreeBSD can) Run a huge a variety of applications
 > 4. (FreeBSD is)  Easy to install
 >
 > I don't like number 3.
 >
 > Ceri
 >
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 > 	Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org in a browser.
 > >Fix:
 >
 > --- www/en/index.xsl.old	Fri Dec  7 14:29:23 2001
 > +++ www/en/index.xsl	Fri Dec  7 14:33:16 2001
 > @@ -250,7 +250,7 @@
 >  		<a href="gallery/gallery.html">gallery</a> for examples of
 >  		FreeBSD powered applications and services.</p>
 >
 > -	      <h2><font color="#990000">Run a huge variety of
 > +	      <h2><font color="#990000">Runs a huge variety of
 >  		  applications</font></h2>
 >
 >  	      <p>The quality of FreeBSD combined with today's low-cost,
 > >Release-Note:
 > >Audit-Trail:
 > >Unformatted:
 >
 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
 > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
 >
 

From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:26:40 -0800 (PST)

 On 22-Dec-01 Chern Lee wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Chern Lee <chern@FreeBSD.org>
 > To: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
 > Cc: <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG>
 > Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the
 >  website
 > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:35:32 -0800 (PST)
 > 
 >  I'm not sure if I follow what you are trying to say...
 >  
 >  (FreeBSD can) run a huge variety of applications.  This makes perfect
 >  sense.  But these are not complete sentence, just fragments.
 >  
 >  (FreeBSD) runs a huge variety of applications. - makes sense
 >  
 >  As a fragment, both run and runs make sense, because they can be prefixed
 >  with something to make it complete.
 >  
 >  I think it's fine the way it is.
 
 Hmm, I find them awkward for a different reason: 1, 2, and 4 don't start with a
 verb, which is what makes this awkard.
 
 Nevertheless, after re-reading the page, I read #3 more as the reader can use
 FreeBSD to run a huge variety of applications, and for the implied you, the
 verb is correct.  If there was someway to restate #3 so as not to use a verb, I
 think I would prefer that, but I can't think of a clean way of doing that atm.
 Well, one way might be to be explicit and say "FreeBSD has ...", "FreeBSD can
 implement...", "FreeBSD can...", "FreeBSD is...".
 
 -- 
 
 John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>  <><  http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/
 "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!"  -  http://www.FreeBSD.org/
State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended 
State-Changed-By: keramida 
State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 23:06:39 PST 2002 
State-Changed-Why:  
Since there doesn't seem to be an agreement if the front page is 
`wrong' or should be changed to something better, I'll leave this 
suspended.  If anyone has a better idea, that we can all agree with, 
you're welcome to help with this. 

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32578 

From: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
To: keramida@FreeBSD.org
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:20:58 +0000

 On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:08:27PM -0800, keramida@FreeBSD.org wrote:
 > Synopsis: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website
 > 
 > State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended
 > 
 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32578
 
 You're more than welcome to close it if you prefer.
 
 Ceri
 

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/32578: website change
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:23:44 -0500

 I am currently taking a quick look at this, maybe I could come up with 
 something that EVERYONE can agree on to make this a bit more 
 ``friendly'' for users ;)
 
 
 -- 
 Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
 www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front
 www.FreeBSD.org  The Power To Serve
 

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/32578: [PATCH] for doc review
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:54:42 -0500 (EST)

 diff -ru en.old/index.xsl en/index.xsl
 --- en.old/index.xsl	Tue Feb 19 15:28:13 2002
 +++ en/index.xsl	Tue Feb 19 15:52:40 2002
 @@ -224,7 +224,7 @@
  	
  	      <p>FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for
  		Intel ia32 compatible, DEC Alpha, and PC-98 architectures.
 -		It is derived from BSD UNIX, the version of UNIX developed at 
 +		It is derived from BSD UNIX, the version of UNIX developed at
  		the University of California, Berkeley.
  		It is developed and maintained by 
  		<a
 @@ -233,33 +233,36 @@
  		<a href="{$base}/platforms/index.html">platforms</a> are in
  		various stages of development.</p>
  	      
 -	      <h2><font color="#990000">Cutting edge features</font></h2>
 +	      <h2><font color="#990000">FreeBSD has cutting edge features</font></h2>
  	      
  	      <p>FreeBSD offers advanced networking, performance, security
  		and compatibility 
  		<a href="{$base}/features.html">features</a>
  		today which are still missing in other operating systems,
  		even some of the best commercial ones.</p>
 -	      
 -	      <h2><font color="#990000">Powerful Internet solutions</font></h2>
 +
 +	      <h2><font color="#990000">Industrial strength Networking</font></h2>
  	      
  	      <p>FreeBSD makes an ideal 
  		<a href="{$base}/internet.html">Internet or Intranet</a> 
  		server. It provides robust network services under the heaviest
  		loads and uses memory efficiently to maintain good response
 -		times for thousands of simultaneous user processes. Visit our
 +		time for thousands of simultaneous user processes. Visit our
  		<a href="gallery/gallery.html">gallery</a> for examples of
 -		FreeBSD powered applications and services.</p>
 -	    
 -	      <h2><font color="#990000">Run a huge variety of
 -		  applications</font></h2>
 +		FreeBSD powered applications, servers, networks, and other services.</p>
 +
 +	      <h2><font color="#990000">FreeBSD has access to hundreds of applications
 +              </font></h2>
  	    
  	      <p>The quality of FreeBSD combined with today's low-cost,
  		high-speed PC hardware makes FreeBSD a very economical
  		alternative to commercial UNIX workstations.  It is well-suited
 -		for a great number of both desktop and server 
 -		<a href="{$base}/applications.html">applications</a>.</p>
 -	    
 +		for a great number of both desktop and server
 +		<a href="{$base}/applications.html">applications.</a>
 +                Imagine an entire developement environment
 +                right at your finger tips, with support for almost all of the major
 +                programming languages!.</p>
 +
  	      <h2><font color="#990000">Easy to install</font></h2>
  	    
  	      <p>FreeBSD can be installed from a variety of media including
State-Changed-From-To: suspended->closed 
State-Changed-By: trhodes 
State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 26 17:08:42 PDT 2002 
State-Changed-Why:  
s/variety/number/ of applications.  This sounds very reasonable. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32578 
>Unformatted:
