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From: Oliver Fromme <olli@secnetix.de>
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Cc: Oliver Fromme <olli@secnetix.de>
Subject: Mailings lists "aic7xxx" and "kde" don't exist
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>Number:         103194
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Mailings lists "aic7xxx" and "kde" don't exist
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    remko
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Sep 12 15:30:18 GMT 2006
>Closed-Date:    Fri Oct 13 08:40:47 GMT 2006
>Last-Modified:  Fri Oct 13 08:50:11 GMT 2006
>Originator:     Oliver Fromme
>Release:        n/a
>Organization:
secnetix GmbH & Co. KG
		http://www.secnetix.de/bsd
>Environment:

	n/a

>Description:

	The FreeBSD Handbook documents the mailing lists
	"freebsd-aic7xxx" and "freebsd-kde".  However,
	it's not possible to subscribe to them.

>How-To-Repeat:

	Mail "subscribe" to freebsd-aic7xxx-request or to
	freebsd-kde-request.  You'll get the following
	error messages:

 <freebsd-aic7xxx-request@freebsd.org>:
    host hub.freebsd.org[216.136.204.18] said:
    550 <freebsd-aic7xxx-request@freebsd.org>: Recipient address rejected:
    User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command)

 <freebsd-kde-request@freebsd.org>:
    host hub.freebsd.org[216.136.204.18] said:
    550 <freebsd-kde-request@freebsd.org>: Recipient address rejected:
    User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command)

	Furthermore, when clicking on the "freebsd-kde"
	link in the FreeBSD Handbook (Appendix C.1.1),
	an error page from mailman is displayed:
	
	"We're sorry, we hit a bug!  Mailman experienced a
	very low level failure and could not even generate
	a useful traceback for you. Please report this to
	the Mailman administrator at this site."

>Fix:

	If the above mentioned lists are obsolete, then
	remove them from the FreeBSD Handbook (Appendix
	C.1.1 "List Summary).  Otherwise fix the mailman
	configuration, so the -request addresses work
	properly.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
To: Oliver Fromme <olli@secnetix.de>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/103194: Mailings lists "aic7xxx" and "kde" don't exist
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:06:53 -0500

 I'd suggest leaving aic7xxx; whenever you get email that's crossposted
 to it you have a 100% guarantee of a spam.  (The spammers just walk the
 list in alpha order).

From: Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de>
To: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
Cc: olli@secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme), FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/103194: Mailings lists "aic7xxx" and "kde" don't exist
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:09:12 +0200 (CEST)

 Mark Linimon wrote:
  > I'd suggest leaving aic7xxx; whenever you get email that's crossposted
  > to it you have a 100% guarantee of a spam.  (The spammers just walk the
  > list in alpha order).
 
 That would be fine with me.  But in that case, a note
 should be added to that list in the handbook, indicating
 that the address is only a spamtrap, but the list doesn't
 really exist.
 
 Best regards
    Oliver
 
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Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->remko 
Responsible-Changed-By: remko 
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 13 08:20:12 UTC 2006 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
I will work on this (found both the reasons why the mail is being 
rejected). 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103194 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: remko 
State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 13 08:39:24 UTC 2006 
State-Changed-Why:  
I corrected the URL to the KDE mailinglist, which is being 
hosted somewhere else (hence subscription does not go to 
the FreeBSD.org domain but to the external domain) and 
for the aic7xxx mailinglist : 
You need to subscribe to aic7xxx-request@FreeBSD.org and not to freebsd-aic7xxx-request@FreeBSd.org 

This should resolve the PR, closing it. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103194 

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Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/103194: commit references a PR
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:38:18 +0000 (UTC)

 remko       2006-10-13 08:38:04 UTC
 
   FreeBSD doc repository
 
   Modified files:
     en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml mailing-lists.ent 
   Log:
   Correct the URL to the KDE mailinglist (which is being hosted on an
   external page).
   
   PR:             doc/103194
   Reported by:    Oliver Fromme <olli at secnetix at de>
   
   Revision  Changes    Path
   1.52      +1 -1      doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent
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