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From: Drew Derbyshire <ahd@kew.com>
Reply-To: ahd@kew.com
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: 'cd /usr/src ; make reinstall' doesn't update /stand
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>Number:         3031
>Category:       conf
>Synopsis:       'cd /usr/src ; make reinstall' doesn't update /stand
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
>State:          closed
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Mar 18 16:00:10 PST 1997
>Closed-Date:    Tue Mar 18 19:26:14 PST 1997
>Last-Modified:  Wed Mar 19 05:10:01 PST 1997
>Originator:     Drew Derbyshire
>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
Kendra Electronic Wonderworks
>Environment:

	2.2-RELEASE system generated via make reinstall

>Description:

	If the target system is regenerated from a friendly 
	NFS mounted source, /stand is not regenerated.  This
	leads to problems in particular if the wrong version
	of sysinstall is run on the new system.

>How-To-Repeat:

	See above.

>Fix:
	
	Make clear in /usr/src/Makefile that release tree is not built
	by default, include options to build (and install) it.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: jkh 
State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 18 19:26:14 PST 1997 
State-Changed-Why:  
This will never be the case.  While /stand was immune from 
upgrades, this was more of a problem since your /stand could go 
very stale indeed.  Now that this is no longer the issue, 
and there is good reason to match a /stand/sysinstall to a given 
installation version, I'd say it's probably updated as much as it's 
ever going to be.  In the future setup-driven world, this will also 
be a non-issue. 

From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
To: ahd@kew.com
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: conf/3031: 'cd /usr/src ; make reinstall' doesn't update /stand
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:42:09 +0100

 As Drew Derbyshire wrote:
 
 > 	If the target system is regenerated from a friendly 
 > 	NFS mounted source, /stand is not regenerated.  This
 > 	leads to problems in particular if the wrong version
 > 	of sysinstall is run on the new system.
 
 /stand is never reinstalled, NFS or not, there isn't even a source
 directory for it.  It should not be rebuilt either, it's merely a
 bootstrapping aid by the installation tools.
 
 sysadm (the post-installation sysinstall) doesn't belong into /stand,
 it rather belongs into /usr/sbin, and it should be kept as a regular
 shared linked binary there, as opposed to a multi-megabyte blurb
 containing the kitchensink and all.
 
 -- 
 cheers, J"org
 
 joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
 Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)

From: Drew Derbyshire <ahd@kew.com>
To: Joerg Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: conf/3031: 'cd /usr/src ; make reinstall' doesn't update /stand
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 08:03:47 -0500

 J Wunsch wrote:
 
 > As Drew Derbyshire wrote:
 > 
 > >       If the target system is regenerated from a friendly
 > >       NFS mounted source, /stand is not regenerated.  This
 > >       leads to problems in particular if the wrong version
 > >       of sysinstall is run on the new system.
 > 
 > /stand is never reinstalled, NFS or not, there isn't even a source
 > directory for it.  It should not be rebuilt either, it's merely a
 > bootstrapping aid by the installation tools.
 > 
 > sysadm (the post-installation sysinstall) doesn't belong into /stand,
 > it rather belongs into /usr/sbin, and it should be kept as a regular
 > shared linked binary there, as opposed to a multi-megabyte blurb
 > containing the kitchensink and all.
 
 I agree.  But, explain _that_ to the default /etc/motd on 2.1.x and 2.2,
 which gracefully points the luser to /stand.  :-)
 
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