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Subject: (sysinstall) Configuration->TimeZone->Ukraine  lists 4 choices of regions in Ukraine, _all_ of which are in the same time zone?!
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>Number:         19822
>Category:       conf
>Synopsis:       (sysinstall) Configuration->TimeZone->Ukraine  lists 4 choices of regions in Ukraine, _all_ of which are in the same time zone?!
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    ru
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jul 10 07:40:00 PDT 2000
>Closed-Date:    Mon Jul 10 08:56:43 PDT 2000
>Last-Modified:  Mon Jul 10 09:03:04 PDT 2000
>Originator:     Adrian Pavlykevych
>Release:        RELENG_4
>Organization:
State Univiversity "Lvivska Polytechnica"
>Environment:
FreeBSD ghost.lp.lviv.ua 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 30 17:05:22 EEST 2000
>Description:
All locations in Ukraine belong to the same timezone (EEST), so there is
no point, to ask user to pick his region, if any of his choices result 
in the same timezone setting. It is even stranger, how those four regions
and their naming were picked, neither official administrative boundaries
nor naming were used, in general there is no particular logical reasons 
to be seen.

Looks like clear case of some sort of political/ethnical revisionism, 
which certainly does not belong to the scope of FreeBSD project.
>How-To-Repeat:
Run /stand/sysinstall, choose Configuration->TimeZone->Europe->Ukraine,
check result of choosing any region (all will set TZ to EEST).
>Fix:
Set EEST time zone for entire Ukraine, like for the rest of East European 
countries.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->ru 
Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh 
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 10 07:54:30 PDT 2000 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Ruslan is our zoneinfo maintainer by way of association. :-) 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19822 

From: Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To: pam@polynet.lviv.ua
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: conf/19822: (sysinstall) Configuration->TimeZone->Ukraine  lists 4 choices of regions in Ukraine, _all_ of which are in the same time zone?!
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:47:43 -0400 (EDT)

 <<On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:32:49 -0700 (PDT), pam@polynet.lviv.ua said:
 
 > Looks like clear case of some sort of political/ethnical revisionism, 
 > which certainly does not belong to the scope of FreeBSD project.
 
 BZZZT!  Wrong, but thanks for playing.
 
 Quoting /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/europe:
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 # Ukraine
 # Zone  NAME            GMTOFF  RULES   FORMAT  [UNTIL]
 # Most of Ukraine since 1970 has been like Kiev.
 Zone Europe/Kiev        2:02:04 -       LMT     1880
                         2:02:04 -       KMT     1924 May  2 # Kiev Mean Time
                         2:00    -       EET     1930 Jun 21
                         3:00    -       MSK     1941 Sep 20
                         1:00    C-Eur   CE%sT   1943 Nov  6
                         3:00    Russia  MSK/MSD 1990
                         3:00    -       MSK     1990 Jul  1 2:00
                         2:00    -       EET     1992
                         2:00    E-Eur   EE%sT   1995
                         2:00    EU      EE%sT
 # Ruthenia used CET 1990/1991.
 Zone Europe/Uzhgorod    1:29:12 -       LMT     1890 Oct
                         1:00    -       CET     1940
                         1:00    C-Eur   CE%sT   1944 Oct
                         1:00    1:00    CEST    1944 Oct 26
                         1:00    -       CET     1945 Jun 29
                         3:00    Russia  MSK/MSD 1990
                         3:00    -       MSK     1990 Jul  1 2:00
                         1:00    -       CET     1991 Mar 31 3:00
                         2:00    -       EET     1992
                         2:00    E-Eur   EE%sT   1995
                         2:00    EU      EE%sT
 # Zaporozh'ye and eastern Lugansk oblasts observed DST 1990/1991.
 # Zaporozh'ye has an apostrophe, but Posix file names can't have apostrophes.
 Zone Europe/Zaporozhye  2:20:40 -       LMT     1880
                         2:20    -       CUT     1924 May  2 # Central Ukraine T
                         2:00    -       EET     1930 Jun 21
                         3:00    -       MSK     1941 Aug 25
                         1:00    C-Eur   CE%sT   1943 Oct 25
                         3:00    Russia  MSK/MSD 1991 Mar 31 2:00
                         2:00    E-Eur   EE%sT   1995
                         2:00    EU      EE%sT
 # Central Crimea used Moscow time 1994/1997.
 Zone Europe/Simferopol  2:16:24 -       LMT     1880
                         2:16    -       SMT     1924 May  2 # Simferopol Mean T
                         2:00    -       EET     1930 Jun 21
                         3:00    -       MSK     1941 Nov
                         1:00    C-Eur   CE%sT   1944 Apr 13
                         3:00    Russia  MSK/MSD 1990
                         3:00    -       MSK     1990 Jul  1 2:00
                         2:00    -       EET     1992
 # From Paul Eggert <eggert@twinsun.com> (1999-11-12):
 # The _Economist_ (1994-05-28, p 45) reports that central Crimea switched
 # from Kiev to Moscow time sometime after the January 1994 elections.
 # Shanks says ``date of change uncertain'', but implies that it happened
 # sometime between the 1994 DST switches.  For now, guess it changed in May.
                         2:00    E-Eur   EE%sT   1994 May
 # From IATA SSIM (1994/1997), which also says that Kerch is still like Kiev.
                         3:00    E-Eur   MSK/MSD 1996 Mar 31 3:00s
                         3:00    1:00    MSD     1996 Oct 27 3:00s
 # IATA SSIM (1997-09) says Crimea switched to EET/EEST.
 # Assume it happened in March by not changing the clocks.
                         3:00    Russia  MSK/MSD 1997 Mar lastSun 1:00u
                         2:00    EU      EE%sT
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 If you have any issues with this history, please take it up with the
 maintainers of the timezone database at <tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>.
 
 -GAWollman
 
 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: ru 
State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 10 08:56:43 PDT 2000 
State-Changed-Why:  
The fact that the Simferopol and Lviv use the same timezone at 
the moment does not mean that they were using it all the time. 
Remember the USSR times? :-) 

But if you still have any issues with this history/naming, please 
take it up with the maintainers of the timezone database at 
<tz@elsie.nci.nih.gov>. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19822 
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