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From: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Cc: Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
Subject: diff: /etc/motd: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting.
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>Number:         158238
>Category:       conf
>Synopsis:       [patch] motd[5]: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jun 23 22:30:12 UTC 2011
>Closed-Date:    Fri Jun 24 20:38:44 UTC 2011
>Last-Modified:  Fri Jun 24 20:38:44 UTC 2011
>Originator:     Julian H. Stacey
>Release:        FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
http://berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen.
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD fire.js.berklix.net 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 2 23:10:13 CEST 2011 jhs@blak.js.berklix.net:/ad6s4/release/8.2-RELEASE/src/sys/amd64/compile/FIRE64.small amd64

	
>Description:
	diff: /etc/motd: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting.
	To reduce noise on questions@ somewhat (& as a side effect,
	ensure newbies get all replies, (as some respondents just
	reply to lists, not to all previous thread participants, &
	some newbies might not realise. )

>How-To-Repeat:
Read questions@ archive Subject: freebsd list admins?

http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201106202352.24196.rsimmons0
 obert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>
 "There seems to be a few email addresses that are subscribed to
 these lists that keep spamming it periodically"

http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20110621074416.58869e66
 Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
 "Unfortunately, this is an "open" list; ie, anyone subscribed or not
  can post. This leads to the inevitable problems that plague this forum."

http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201106212203.p5LM3NbI005159
 "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
 "I think we should: make questions@ list writable only to subscribers
 (if not already); & Edit /usr/src/etc/motd ...  Should we send in
 a send-pr to edit src/etc/motd  eg:"

http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?BANLkTimoY58yWwdHYPrhKBzPQa0CYhxERw
 Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>
 "PR it.  Sounds good."

>Fix:

A patch in diff -c format is appended below, & a spare copy here
http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/src/gen/etc/motd.REL=ALL.diff

*** 8.2-RELEASE/src/etc/motd	Thu Jul  3 08:06:09 2003
--- new/src/etc/motd.new	Thu Jun 23 22:58:31 2011
***************
*** 13,21 ****
     http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/.  If the doc distribution has
     been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc.
  
! If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of
! `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email it
! as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list.  If you are
  unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7)
  manual page.  If you are not familiar with manual pages, type `man man'.
  
--- 13,22 ----
     http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/.  If the doc distribution has
     been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc.
  
! If you still have a question or problem, please subscribe (free) via
! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/subscribe/freebsd-questions  then take 
! the output of `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email
! it as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list.  If you are
  unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7)
  manual page.  If you are not familiar with manual pages, type `man man'.
  


>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: eadler 
State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 24 20:30:58 UTC 2011 
State-Changed-Why:  
1) questions@ is open by design. postmaster@ has not said that -questions will be becoming a closed list. If after further discussion postmaster@ agrees this PR could be re-opened 
2) FreeBSD prefers patches in the unified diff format not context diff format. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=158238 
>Unformatted:
