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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:34:13 -0800
From: lyndon@orthanc.com
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To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: routed won't start on dataless machines
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>Number:         811
>Category:       bin
>Synopsis:       routed won't start on dataless machines
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
>State:          closed
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Nov  7 12:40:00 PST 1995
>Closed-Date:    Sat Nov 18 20:02:33 PST 1995
>Last-Modified:  Sat Nov 18 20:04:02 PST 1995
>Originator:     Lyndon Nerenberg
>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
Orthanc Systems
>Environment:

	FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT. System configured as a dataless WS
	(local root and swap, /usr NFS mounted from fileserver)

>Description:

	/etc/rc calls netstart before performing NFS mounts. This
	ordering causes the start of routed (in netstart) to fail -
	routed is in /usr/sbin which isn't yet mounted.

>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

	Move routed to /sbin.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: "Garrett A. Wollman" <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>
To: lyndon@orthanc.com
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: bin/811: routed won't start on dataless machines
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:02:46 -0500

 <<On Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:34:13 -0800, lyndon@orthanc.com said:
 
 >> Fix:
 
 > 	Move routed to /sbin.
 
 Better fix: install a static route that will get you to your server
 for long enough to find routed.
 
 -GAWollman
 
 --
 Garrett A. Wollman   | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... 
 wollman@lcs.mit.edu  | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance.
 Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence.  We like people
 MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish.  - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant

From: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TCP) <lyndon@orthanc.com>
To: "Garrett A. Wollman" <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/811: routed won't start on dataless machines 
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 14:29:10 -0800

 > Better fix: install a static route that will get you to your server
 > for long enough to find routed.
 
 This assumes there is one and only one route to the server.
 
 If static routes were an acceptable solution I wouldn't be running
 routed to begin with.
 
 --lyndon

From: "Garrett A. Wollman" <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>
To: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TCP) <lyndon@orthanc.com>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/811: routed won't start on dataless machines 
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:01:04 -0500

 <<On Tue, 07 Nov 1995 14:29:10 -0800, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TCP) <lyndon@orthanc.com> said:
 
 >> Better fix: install a static route that will get you to your server
 >> for long enough to find routed.
 
 > This assumes there is one and only one route to the server.
 
 No, it assumes that there is at least one router out there that always
 knows the route to the server.
 
 -GAWollman
 
 --
 Garrett A. Wollman   | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... 
 wollman@lcs.mit.edu  | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance.
 Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence.  We like people
 MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish.  - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant

From: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TCP) <lyndon@orthanc.com>
To: "Garrett A. Wollman" <wollman@lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/811: routed won't start on dataless machines 
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 12:57:14 -0800

 >>>>> "Garrett" == Garrett A Wollman <wollman@lcs.mit.edu> writes:
 
     Garrett> No, it assumes that there is at least one router out
     Garrett> there that always knows the route to the server.
 
 The situation is a dataless laptop running over a radio link. There
 are several geographically dispersed fixed "gateways" that link the
 portables to the main net. Which of these gateways is accessable via
 the RF path is unknown at boot time.
 
 Can we please stop ASSuming and just fix the problem?
 
 --lyndon
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: gpalmer 
State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 18 20:02:33 PST 1995 
State-Changed-Why:  
Closed at the request of the PR submitter (Lyndon Nerenberg) 
>Unformatted:
