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From: evanc@synapse.net
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
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Subject: upgrade perl
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>Number:         5050
>Category:       bin
>Synopsis:       upgrade perl
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-bugs
>State:          closed
>Quarter:
>Keywords:
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Nov 15 06:30:01 PST 1997
>Closed-Date:    Sat Nov 15 07:39:45 PST 1997
>Last-Modified:  Sat Nov 15 08:40:02 PST 1997
>Originator:     Evan Champion
>Release:        FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:

	

>Description:

	If there is no major reason why perl 4.036 is still the perl
	distributed with FreeBSD 3.0-current, I would appreciate it if
	someone upgraded the standard /usr/bin/perl to 5.00404.  4.036
	is absolutely useless now.

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:
	
	The port is in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: Tim Vanderhoek <tim@ppp1710.on.bellglobal.com>
To: evanc@synapse.net
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/5050: upgrade perl
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:24:21 -0500 (EST)

 On 15 Nov 1997 evanc@synapse.net wrote:
 
 > >Fix:
 > 	
 > 	The port is in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.
 
 No.  This bugreport should include the proper bmake style
 makefiles, and any other changes, removals, etc. that would be
 necessary for perl5 before it goes into the main system.
 
 Same goes for the previous Tcl upgrade and bind upgrade requests
 you sent.
 
 Otherwise I think the pr's might as well be closed...  At least
 this one, since it is painfully obvious that we've got a rather
 old system version of Perl (although it doesn't bother me
 personally in the least :).
 
 
 --
  tIM...HOEk
 OPTIMIZATION: the process of using many one-letter variables names
               hoping that the resultant code will run faster.
 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: jraynard 
State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 15 07:39:45 PST 1997 
State-Changed-Why:  
Duplicate of many previous requests.  There is no philosophical 
objection to the update as I understand it, just the fact that 
none of the people who want it have yet submitted a version of 
it that can be accommodated in the FreeBSD build system (hope 
I haven't misrepresented anybody here). 

From: Evan Champion <evanc@synapse.net>
To: ac199@hwcn.org
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/5050: upgrade perl
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:46:04 -0500 (EST)

 On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
 
 > No.  This bugreport should include the proper bmake style
 > makefiles, and any other changes, removals, etc. that would be
 > necessary for perl5 before it goes into the main system.
 > 
 > Same goes for the previous Tcl upgrade and bind upgrade requests
 > you sent.
 
 I just report the problem.  Am I supposed to do everything?  If I was
 interested in doing that I'd get CVS update access and do it myself.
 
 Merging tcl should just be a matter of merging the .c and .h files.  I
 strongly suspect no or minimal makefile changes will be necessary.
 
 BIND may require a bit, but not much, and that bit should be localised to
 named as I can't see the resolver library structure changing much.
 
 perl5 is a different story.  But BSDI obviously did a Berkeley makefile
 for it as they include perl5 with BSD/OS 3.x, so it can't be that hard.
 
 > Otherwise I think the pr's might as well be closed...  At least
 > this one, since it is painfully obvious that we've got a rather
 > old system version of Perl (although it doesn't bother me
 > personally in the least :).
 
 perl 4.036 is absolutely useless, so IMHO either ditch it and save people
 download time or upgrade it.  As it is very useful to have a built-in
 perl, I'd go with upgrade it. 
 
 Evan
 

From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To: Evan Champion <evanc@synapse.net>
Cc: ac199@hwcn.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG,
        freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org
Subject: Re: bin/5050: upgrade perl 
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:37:22 +0100

 In message <Pine.BSF.3.96.971115102727.220J-100000@cello.synapse.net>, Evan Cha
 mpion writes:
 >On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
 >
 >> No.  This bugreport should include the proper bmake style
 >> makefiles, and any other changes, removals, etc. that would be
 >> necessary for perl5 before it goes into the main system.
 >> 
 >> Same goes for the previous Tcl upgrade and bind upgrade requests
 >> you sent.
 >
 >I just report the problem.  Am I supposed to do everything?  If I was
 >interested in doing that I'd get CVS update access and do it myself.
 
 Uhm, actually: yes.  The FreeBSD effort to a large extent works because
 people submit substance, not just requests for it.
 
 So, why not give a hand ?
 
 --
 Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
 phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
>Unformatted:
