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From: Jari Kirma <kirma@cs.hut.fi>
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Subject: Sysinstall NTP servers for Finland require updating
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>Number:         46235
>Category:       bin
>Synopsis:       sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-sysinstall
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Dec 13 06:40:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:    
>Last-Modified:  Thu Sep 29 15:50:20 UTC 2011
>Originator:     Jari Kirma
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
Helsinki University of Technology
>Environment:
Environment is irrelevant in this problem report - both 4.7 and 5.0
have the issue.

>Description:
Sysinstall lists tick.keso.fi and tock.keso.fi as Finnish NTP servers
- these servers seem to be unusable and the keso.fi is quite strange
organisation for time management services.

>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
Replace the servers with time1.mikes.fi and time2.mikes.fi at
src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c

time1.mikes.fi and time2.mikes.fi are not stratum 1 servers, but the
servers are are directly synced from internal NTP servers connected to
the official Cs time normals (atomic clocks) maintained by Finnish
Centre for Metrology and Accreditation (mikes.fi) which maintains the
official time standard in Finland.

These time services are provided freely as-is, but their quality is
actively monitored, so I think those clocks are pretty good defaults
for FreeBSD sysinstall.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->qa 
Responsible-Changed-By: johan 
Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 10:48:45 PST 2002 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Over to sysinstall maintainers. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: qa->rwatson 
Responsible-Changed-By: rwatson 
Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Mar 25 06:25:19 PST 2003 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Grab ownership of this PR; need to do a fact-check and merge following 
4.8-RELEASE. 


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 

Adding to audit trail by linimon on 08/29/2004:

I can confirm that this change has not yet been made.
Responsible-Changed-From-To: rwatson->freebsd-bugs 
Responsible-Changed-By: rwatson 
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 13 18:01:49 UTC 2008 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Return to the pool, I've not had time to deal with this. 


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->matteo 
Responsible-Changed-By: matteo 
Responsible-Changed-When: Lun 4 Feb 2008 20:21:19 UTC 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
I found the will to work on easy sysinstall's PR's 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: matteo->brucec  
Responsible-Changed-By: brucec 
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 12:06:38 UTC 2010 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Grab. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback 
State-Changed-By: brucec 
State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 14:17:39 UTC 2010 
State-Changed-Why:  
Both tick.keso.fi and tock.keso.fi are listed on the NTP project site at  
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers and appear  
to be working. Have they been fixed since the PR was submitted, or is  
there still a reason they shouldn't be used? 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: brucec->freebsd-sysinstall 
Responsible-Changed-By: brucec 
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 23 21:21:20 UTC 2011 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Back to the pool. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed 
State-Changed-By: eadler 
State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 UTC 2011 
State-Changed-Why:  
These servers appear to be working to me as well. If this is still an 
issue please reply and I will re open 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
State-Changed-From-To: closed->open 
State-Changed-By: eadler 
State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 15:49:56 UTC 2011 
State-Changed-Why:  
Additional feedback received 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 
>Unformatted:
