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Subject: In sysinstall, easy to not notice that selection lists must be scrolled.
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>Number:         15038
>Category:       bin
>Synopsis:       sysinstall(8): easy to not notice that selection lists must be scrolled.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-sysinstall
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Nov 21 23:50:01 PST 1999
>Closed-Date:    
>Last-Modified:  Sun Jan 23 20:56:46 UTC 2011
>Originator:     Bob Johnson
>Release:        3.1 (but probably still in 3.3)
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD bsd.cisi.com 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Mon Apr  5 13:11:01 EDT 1
999     root@bsd.cisi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOBJ3  i386
>Description:
A user who installs system without X sometimes can't 
figure out how to install the XFree86 distribution.  This seems to 
be because when you do sysinstall->Configure->Distributions, 
"XFree86" is not visible if you don't scroll the list up.  It 
leads the user to use "Custom" instead of "Configure" and do a 
re-install, which wipes out the root password and other nasty 
things (should this side effect get its own PR?).

If it were easier to notice that there are more items on the list, 
the problem might be avoided.
>How-To-Repeat:
1) Install FreeBSD (this step is optional if you have a working system)
2) As root, run /stand/sysinstall.
3) If necessary, select Options and enter a suitable release name 
   (e.g. "none")
4) From main menu select "Configure", then "Distributions".
5) Note that "XFree86" is not a visible choice if you don't 
   realize you need to scroll the display.  (Let's just assume 
   for the moment that failing to notice it is reasonable)
>Fix:
Suggestion:
Instead of the subtle arrow that indicates more choices on the 
list, replace the bottom entry with "more..." if there are 
more items to be displayed.  This would be much harder to miss 
when you haven't had enough sleep (that's my excuse and I'm 
sticking to it).



>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->jkh 
Responsible-Changed-By: phantom 
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jan 10 05:55:59 PST 2000 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Over to sysinstall maintainer 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: jkh->eric 
Responsible-Changed-By: jkh 
Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 30 17:11:45 PDT 2001 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Why ask why? 

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: eric->freebsd-qa 
Responsible-Changed-By: eric 
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Oct 1 12:00:10 PDT 2001 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
assign idle sysinstall bugs to freebsd-qa, as suggested by murray 

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 
State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: brucec 
State-Changed-When: Sun Apr 25 14:52:00 UTC 2010 
State-Changed-Why:  
XFree86/Xorg is no longer a distribution. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 

From: Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, bobj@atlantic.net
Cc:  
Subject: Re: bin/15038: sysinstall(8): easy to not notice that selection lists 
	must be scrolled.
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:48:13 -0700

     The point wasn't so much that Xorg/Xfree86 isn't a valid
 distribution anymore. The point was that the user was requesting an
 enhancement to `better' denote the fact that there are more options
 available on the list.
     The only problem is that `more:' is very localized to the English
 language and isn't suitable for other locales... and in this day in
 age with IKEA-like solutions using only pictures to guide users,
 unless you are going to solve it in a localized manner, using words in
 place of images only increases complexity. A usability engineer may
 argue that I'm wrong, but that's how I think it should be so we don't
 have to solve this problem N times.
     I do agree though. More options should have been more apparent in
 the libdialog UI.
 Thanks,
 -Garrett
State-Changed-From-To: closed->open 
State-Changed-By: brucec 
State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 06:56:23 UTC 2010 
State-Changed-Why:  
This is a generic problem that still needs fixed. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->brucec 
Responsible-Changed-By: brucec 
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 26 07:00:57 UTC 2010 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Take. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 
Responsible-Changed-From-To: brucec->freebsd-sysinstall 
Responsible-Changed-By: brucec 
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 23 20:56:30 UTC 2011 
Responsible-Changed-Why:  
Back to the pool. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=15038 
>Unformatted:
